AIBU to want to express support for women who were assaulted at a political conference?

How are the actions of the security indicative of the party. Equally, I asked you whether Rachel Reeves mocked them and then worse appear in a sky interview belittling the protestor with a "boo hoo" mockery. As I posted this afternoon even The Telegraph is warning us of the Reform party now, with the article headline, "The violence against anti-Reform protesters should worry us all". The article discusses how this is indicative of its decency with members that behave like that. Tbh it's not a good sign when the Torygraph is writing such pieces!

John Prescott was a former amateur boxer;

BBC - Ex-boxer Lord Prescott instinctively turned and punched the farming protester, which later earned him the nickname "Two Jabs".

I have just watched the Prescott punch and the guy is 20 years younger and really muscular, an egg with that force behind him no wonder Prescott reacted !

I have just watched the Prescott punch and the guy is 20 years younger and really muscular, an egg with that force behind him no wonder Prescott reacted !

Equally, this was donkeys years ago, I mean it was a different era

We hear that excuse all the time.

Equally, this was donkeys years ago, I mean it was a different era

We hear that excuse all the time.

Are security guards allowed to grab people round the neck, if indeed he is a security guard? Are they allowed to slam people against a wall?

I certainly think it's more of a instinctive reaction to someone smashing something into your face. I'm still not clear how this is comparable to this situation, I'll ask again, what did the woman do? Equally, this was donkeys years ago, I mean it was different era. Would John Prescott hit a woman, no, I definitely don't think so, different values I suppose!

I thought the man very forcefully smashed a hard shelled egg in Prescott's face.

I think the first egg missed and the second egg hit the side of his face and neck.

Just to clarify - if a protester hits Nigel Farage on the side of his face and neck with a hard shelled egg, or similar object, you would be fine if Farage reacted with a punch?

Remind us what the actions of security guards and the police have to do with party members assaulting a woman.

I thought the man very forcefully smashed a hard shelled egg in Prescott's face.

I think the first egg missed and the second egg hit the side of his face and neck.

Just to clarify - if a protester hits Nigel Farage on the side of his face and neck with a hard shelled egg, or similar object, you would be fine if Farage reacted with a punch?

I thought the man very forcefully smashed a hard shelled egg in Prescott's face. What did the woman do?

This might be more interesting, I think these protesters are from the same activist group as the Reform hecklers. They disrupted Labour's conference in 2024:

Protester grabbed by neck and thrown out of Labour conference during Rachel Reeves speech.

^https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/labour-rachel-reeves-protest-israel-b2617400.html^

The booing of our action was anticipated, the manhandling was not. We were removed, arrested and questioned in a police van for an hour, before being driven from the venue and dropped 10 minutes down the road...

I was slammed into a wall, the handcuffs made marks and there was unexpected verbal abuse. But it’s important that our rough treatment isn’t the main story to come out of Monday’s disruption.

^https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/25/rachel-reeves-speech-protest-war-climate-labour-conference^

(Rachel Reeves looked as though she was going to cry)

This might be more interesting, I think these protesters are from the same activist group as the Reform hecklers. They disrupted Labour's conference in 2024:

Protester grabbed by neck and thrown out of Labour conference during Rachel Reeves speech.

^https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/labour-rachel-reeves-protest-israel-b2617400.html^

The booing of our action was anticipated, the manhandling was not. We were removed, arrested and questioned in a police van for an hour, before being driven from the venue and dropped 10 minutes down the road...

I was slammed into a wall, the handcuffs made marks and there was unexpected verbal abuse. But it’s important that our rough treatment isn’t the main story to come out of Monday’s disruption.

^https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/25/rachel-reeves-speech-protest-war-climate-labour-conference^

(Rachel Reeves looked as though she was going to cry)

Suspended from the party. Charged. Convicted

It's a pity the alleged victims at the conference hall haven't come forward then. What have they got to hide? Do you think John Prescott should have been suspended pending inquiries?

You were the one who seemingly wanted a more recent example of "Politicians punching people?"

Not particularly. I was trying to gauge what you were trying to prove was ‘unusual’ or not. And what it had to do with this story. Feel free to expand.

Exactly. I wonder who she was.

Tony's Blair's reaction to John Prescott's punch;

"For the last seven years you get to know someone pretty well, and he has got very great strengths -- not least in his left arm."

There was a young woman on LBC saying that this sort of thing happens 'a lot,' or 'all the time.'
It just doesn't - but she didn't look as though she'd have been to many party conferences.
So someone had fed her this information?

And was prosecuted, as the article says. And also had to stop being an MP and was I think thrown out of the party. And was widely condemned including by his colleagues. You didn't have Labour MPs and spokespeople arguing in TV that it wasn't a big deal it insinuating his victim deserved it somehow. Quite the opposite

There are violent people everywhere. Including violent young people and violent old people and in any large group. What is different in Reforms case is the reaction from the other people in the room including the leader of the party at the time and afterwards.

If someone in my social circle, political party, friendship group, church attacked someone that doesn't automatically reflect on me. If I defend it/think it's funny or justified then it does.