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AIBU to want to express support for women who were assaulted at a political conference?

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Warmlight1 · 08/09/2026 21:41

To want to send out support to the two women visibly assaulted at a political conference.
I am concerned about the other protesters too and actually anyone who was hurt. But having to listen to jeering from the podium plus the crowd chanting in live TV at the same time must have been so traumatic and the publicity will die down and coverage move on but that can't be easy. Just want to send love and support.

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Raydaye · 09/09/2026 22:19

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 22:14

In the statement, he told police: "I thought I was about to be physically assaulted by this male. I was terrified and felt vulnerable and cornered by the male and others in the group."

You missed out the next bit;

Judge Everett said: "What he said to police doesn't seem to fit in with the CCTV in pretty well any respect."

Ah really! I do admit only skimread a few articles on this.

As I said it’s a terrible situation regardless - but even more so if it actually was due to uncontrollable anger at something he said rather than fear.

I am glad he was convicted! And so should all of the men guilty of violence at the reform conference.

ETA: I’ve just read Amesy was drunk 😣 to be clear drunkenness doesn’t make it better. Makes it worse if anything.

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 22:18

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 22:14

In the statement, he told police: "I thought I was about to be physically assaulted by this male. I was terrified and felt vulnerable and cornered by the male and others in the group."

You missed out the next bit;

Judge Everett said: "What he said to police doesn't seem to fit in with the CCTV in pretty well any respect."

Still, Prescott was 63, egged by a muscular 29 year old farm worker!

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 22:16

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 22:09

The poster was expressing surprise that the article was published in the Telegraph.

It wasn't surprise, I was highlighting confirmation from the Telegraph that they don't align themselves with the Reform voter.

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 22:14

Raydaye · 09/09/2026 22:09

Yep, that case was bad but I suspect there was some fear involved. I don’t know all the details but he alleged there were threats made and it’s conceivable he -even as a man- was scared of another man and went overboard to defend himself when he was approached while out and about.

In the statement, he told police: "I thought I was about to be physically assaulted by this male. I was terrified and felt vulnerable and cornered by the male and others in the group

I really don’t feel the reform gang were acting like this because they were scared of these women.

In the statement, he told police: "I thought I was about to be physically assaulted by this male. I was terrified and felt vulnerable and cornered by the male and others in the group."

You missed out the next bit;

Judge Everett said: "What he said to police doesn't seem to fit in with the CCTV in pretty well any respect."

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 22:09

SevenYellowHammers · 09/09/2026 22:07

They can’t.

Exactly!

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 22:09

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 21:57

Only left wing feminists oppose groups beating up women? Bold take.

The poster was expressing surprise that the article was published in the Telegraph.

SevenYellowHammers · 09/09/2026 22:09

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 21:23

How are the actions of the security indicative of the party. Equally, I asked you whether Rachel Reeves mocked them and then worse appear in a sky interview belittling the protestor with a "boo hoo" mockery. As I posted this afternoon even The Telegraph is warning us of the Reform party now, with the article headline, "The violence against anti-Reform protesters should worry us all". The article discusses how this is indicative of its decency with members that behave like that. Tbh it's not a good sign when the Torygraph is writing such pieces!

Dead in the water Reform

Raydaye · 09/09/2026 22:09

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 19:52

Suspended from the party. Charged. Convicted. Let’s hope Reform acts as quickly. Remind me what this has to do with a group of people beating up a woman.

Yep, that case was bad but I suspect there was some fear involved. I don’t know all the details but he alleged there were threats made and it’s conceivable he -even as a man- was scared of another man and went overboard to defend himself when he was approached while out and about.

In the statement, he told police: "I thought I was about to be physically assaulted by this male. I was terrified and felt vulnerable and cornered by the male and others in the group

I really don’t feel the reform gang were acting like this because they were scared of these women.

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 22:08

Raydaye · 09/09/2026 22:04

Exactly. I only know because I was the type of kid interested in politics from age 7 so I remember a lot of things my peers don’t.

Unfortunately, I don't have that excuse as was about 20 at the time😂. However, many on MN now will be like you or younger!

SevenYellowHammers · 09/09/2026 22:07

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 21:47

Yes, I mean it was a different time, I think his popularity did go up and he wasn't charged as he claimed self defence. The man who egged him was a Farm worker and 29 at the time!!

In the conference scenario can the person(s) claim self defence? Absolutely not.

They can’t.

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 22:07

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 22:01

He was a 29 year old Farmworker which you can tell by his forearms. JP was 63 and doesn't look in great shape - it doesn't look an even match at all!

Did you see the punch? It looked like a boxer's punch to me.

Nigel Farage doesn't look in great shape either, so you would be fine if he retaliated with a punch to a 29-year-old male protester if necessary?

Raydaye · 09/09/2026 22:04

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 21:24

It was though, I bet there is a big proportion of Mumsnet posters that don't even know who he is!

Exactly. I only know because I was the type of kid interested in politics from age 7 so I remember a lot of things my peers don’t.

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 22:01

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 21:51

The heckler has said he was removed by security and complained that the police used excessive force. Security guards are employed by the party the police are, well the police. So what does this have to do with reform party members beating a woman?

The heckler has said he was removed by security

The neck-grabbing man looked more like a steward to me rather than security.

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 22:01

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 21:57

That's interesting but he wasn't as big as the guy who looked about 20 years younger

They look fairly matched in size to me;

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-man-punched-john-30421343

He was a 29 year old Farmworker which you can tell by his forearms. JP was 63 and doesn't look in great shape - it doesn't look an even match at all!

Raydaye · 09/09/2026 22:01

Prescott was assaulted by an egg being hurled at him at close range. Might not cause serious injury but still considered assault. Also a middle-aged man punching a strong fit looking younger man in retaliation (albeit a disproportionate retaliation!) isn’t the same as a man hitting a woman. Even if the man in this most recent case was older.

Also this is whataboutery of the highest order. It was ages ago that happened!😂 I was a baby when it did lol well not quite a baby, but in primary school I think.

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 21:57

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 21:46

Tbh it's not a good sign when the Torygraph is writing such pieces!

To be fair, the author is a left-wing feminist at heart.

Only left wing feminists oppose groups beating up women? Bold take.

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 21:57

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 21:42

That's interesting but he wasn't as big as the guy who looked about 20 years younger. Besides, smash an egg in someone's face in those days this would definitely happen. The woman at the conference didn't smash an egg in their face and she wasn't muscular like the man who egged Prescott!

That's interesting but he wasn't as big as the guy who looked about 20 years younger

They look fairly matched in size to me;

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-man-punched-john-30421343

Man punched by John Prescott speaks for first time after deputy PM's death

Craig Evans from Denbigh has broken his silence on his notorious altercation with Lord Prescott in Rhyl

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-man-punched-john-30421343

Raydaye · 09/09/2026 21:55

Error404FucksNotFound · 09/09/2026 06:22

Reform thugs only care about assaults on women if they are carried out by brown men.

Basically this.

YANBU OP, it’s awful . Is this the same event where a woman was assaulted by a man who used his walking stick to hit her?

I can’t believe people are justifying this.

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 21:54

TopPocketFind · 09/09/2026 21:53

You mean the author is against violence against women?

Good point!

TopPocketFind · 09/09/2026 21:53

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 21:46

Tbh it's not a good sign when the Torygraph is writing such pieces!

To be fair, the author is a left-wing feminist at heart.

You mean the author is against violence against women?

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 21:51

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 21:47

Yes, I mean it was a different time, I think his popularity did go up and he wasn't charged as he claimed self defence. The man who egged him was a Farm worker and 29 at the time!!

In the conference scenario can the person(s) claim self defence? Absolutely not.

John Prescott was 63 at the time, even if he was a boxer in the past he was more than double the Farm worker's age and an old man (not that 63 is old) in comparison!

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 21:51

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 21:14

Are security guards allowed to grab people round the neck, if indeed he is a security guard? Are they allowed to slam people against a wall?

The heckler has said he was removed by security and complained that the police used excessive force. Security guards are employed by the party the police are, well the police. So what does this have to do with reform party members beating a woman?

TopPocketFind · 09/09/2026 21:49

I find this what about Prescott very strange.

Prescott was wrong to throw a punch.

These Reform supporters were very wrong to assault the women who heckled Farage.

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 21:48

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 21:46

Tbh it's not a good sign when the Torygraph is writing such pieces!

To be fair, the author is a left-wing feminist at heart.

Is she, do The Telegraph not know?

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 21:47

SevenYellowHammers · 09/09/2026 21:38

I seem to remember his/Labour’s popularity rating went up. Maybe because Blair was still sucking up to Murdoch at that point and the press were kind? Imagine it now. We’d be facing another GE for sure.

I’m guilty of hideous double standards because I was pretty impressed with Prezza whilst tweely saying I didn’t condone violence of course. Same with Eric Cantona’s flying kick box.

I don’t know if I feel sorry for those women exactly, probably congratulations in order, mission accomplished, like the Miss World 1970 women.

Reform want to play it mean so I don’t think we should pussy foot round them, they take a misstep every other day. They’ll soon be condemned to the dustbin of history like all FartyFarage’s ventures.

More fool them if they let non members into conference and then show themselves up with reaction. They should employ professional bouncers, especially as Nasty Nige is always whining about being in danger.

Yes, I mean it was a different time, I think his popularity did go up and he wasn't charged as he claimed self defence. The man who egged him was a Farm worker and 29 at the time!!

In the conference scenario can the person(s) claim self defence? Absolutely not.

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