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AIBU to want to express support for women who were assaulted at a political conference?

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Warmlight1 · 08/09/2026 21:41

To want to send out support to the two women visibly assaulted at a political conference.
I am concerned about the other protesters too and actually anyone who was hurt. But having to listen to jeering from the podium plus the crowd chanting in live TV at the same time must have been so traumatic and the publicity will die down and coverage move on but that can't be easy. Just want to send love and support.

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Clavinova · 09/09/2026 09:46

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 09:35

Just to be clear. You’re comparing an incident where a young man hits an older man at point blank range with an egg (and goes on to punch him) and the older man throws a punch with an incident where a woman shouts something and is beaten by several people? You think these two things are the same?

I was clearly responding to the 'milkshake' reference. Do you think Nigel Farage (who is exactly the same age now as John Prescott was at the time) should be able to punch protesters in the face if they throw milkshake at him? As for the 'older man' comment, John Prescott was an ex-boxer.

YourWatermelonship · 09/09/2026 09:41

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 07:47

From what you describe, it's assault. What now?

The police say they are investigating and have identified suspects

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 09:35

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 09:29

I would have no part in any political party where the leadership conducted themselves in that manner

Out of interest, did you vote for Labour in 2001 after the 'Prescott Punch'?

Just to be clear. You’re comparing an incident where a young man hits an older man at point blank range with an egg (and goes on to punch him) and the older man throws a punch with an incident where a woman shouts something and is beaten by several people? You think these two things are the same?

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 09:29

Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 06:32

I am anti reform you are correct. But notwithstanding that I would be reacting the same way had this occurred at any party conference and I would have no part in any political party where the leadership conducted themselves in that manner.

I would have no part in any political party where the leadership conducted themselves in that manner

Out of interest, did you vote for Labour in 2001 after the 'Prescott Punch'?

napody · 09/09/2026 09:24

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 09:21

Milkshake anyone?

As an aside, that reminds me - back in 2001 when Labour's then-Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott, punched a protester in the face after he threw an egg. Prescott wasn't sacked or prosecuted and Labour won the election;

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/inside-john-prescotts-famous-punch-34155196

'As an aside' is right 😂
The whataboutery is strong on this thread.
But to stay with it, can you imagine Prescott cheering on a baying mob violently laying into a lone woman? I really can't.

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 09:21

soddingspiderseason · 09/09/2026 09:05

Blimey. So attacking women for exercising free speech is now acceptable? Not in the Britain I love. Just shows how immoral, ignorant and hypocritical Reform supporters are. Milkshake anyone?

Milkshake anyone?

As an aside, that reminds me - back in 2001 when Labour's then-Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott, punched a protester in the face after he threw an egg. Prescott wasn't sacked or prosecuted and Labour won the election;

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/inside-john-prescotts-famous-punch-34155196

Inside John Prescott's famous punch row that defined his entire career

The famous "Prescott Punch" is regularly remembered as a defining moment of Labour's 2001 election, with polls finding that a large swathe of the public supported his reaction

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/inside-john-prescotts-famous-punch-34155196

Newrumpus · 09/09/2026 09:17

Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 07:47

Not sure about that Are you legally allowed to assault people trespassing on someone else's property? Like if you cross a field which doesn't have a right of way can a member of the public assault you?

I believe this would be aggravated trespass which is a criminal offence. It is trespass with the intention to disrupt. The party had the right to remove the trespassers but that does not give them the right to assault. Reasonable force, which is usually quite forceful in such circumstances, is absolutely fine. Random assaults are definitely not. The difference is quite apparent, I think.

CreativeGreen · 09/09/2026 09:15

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:20

I'd love to hear your explanation on that one. Does a little thing called fascism not figure?

Well you can think what you like and support what you like and other people can object and protest, right?

EstherGreenwood63 · 09/09/2026 09:13

Sereine · 09/09/2026 09:11

Farage was vocal enough about Sir Keir's sunglasses, yet expects to be left alone over £5 million. Can you not see the sheer bloody hypocrisy in that?

Oh they can. They are just thrilled by the attention they're getting. Makes them feel a bit better. Ol' Hatie. 🤣

Sereine · 09/09/2026 09:11

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 08:58

This is ludicrous the whole bloody lot of them , all politicians are self serving . Where were the placards when Sir Keir took free clothes , glasses , concert tickets , sports tickets , accommodation etc or Angela Rayners highly dubious property and council tax affairs or what about Polanski gifting £1500 to his own party which isn’t allowed .
All of them have their hands in the trough , just because Farage was given millions supposedly for security ( and given the murder of AW and these conference. gatecrashers who could have had weapons you can see exactly why he’d be nervous ) the principle is the same and the left can’t portray a holier than though attitude when socialist politicians avail themselves of an awful lot .

Farage was vocal enough about Sir Keir's sunglasses, yet expects to be left alone over £5 million. Can you not see the sheer bloody hypocrisy in that?

Sereine · 09/09/2026 09:08

Dollymylove · 09/09/2026 09:05

Unless you're trying to protect the rights of the British people of course.
Try that and you are labelled a right wing thug

How were these thugs trying to protect the rights of British people?

This reminds me more and more irresistibly of the tactics of Hitler's supporters with dissenters at his rallies. I guess they were just protecting the rights of German people so far as you are concerned.

napody · 09/09/2026 09:08

bumblingbovine49 · 09/09/2026 09:00

I think manhandling, pushing and dragging her away seem borderline to me ( and I am vehemently anti reform). Of course she had the right to protest but I'd say as she was in a private area and causing a disturbance, reform should be able to remove her by using reasonable force if necessary so some manhandling night have been OK if she refused to leave

However, they should have asked her to leave first and hitting her with a stick as an initial immediate response to something she said and then piling on her when she was on the ground absolutely falls outside of reasonable force in my opinion. It certainly looked like a common assault to me on the video, but I am not a lawyer, what do I know

Yep, exactly. That's why Jenrick is such a fool for highlighting the hitting round the head with a stick. He's not even bright enough to be effectively evil. Bet the Russians aren't tempted to give him millions like they did Nathan Gill (former leader of Reform UK in Wales jailed for taking Russian bribes just in case you missed it).

emuloc · 09/09/2026 09:08

Dollymylove · 09/09/2026 09:05

Unless you're trying to protect the rights of the British people of course.
Try that and you are labelled a right wing thug

What rights are these people defending? Asking for a friend.

Sereine · 09/09/2026 09:06

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 06:16

It’s so tedious . She didn’t even need to be there . No-one in that room would have had any interest in what she had to say . You and your ilk don’t like Reform , so what , plenty of others do so get over it . We live in a democracy, everyone can choose who they support and no amount of unwanted disruption will change that .

Since when did being tedious become justification for criminal assault?

Yes, we do live in a democracy. Guess what, that means tolerating free speech.

Dollymylove · 09/09/2026 09:05

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/09/2026 06:35

And democracies (last time I looked) enshrine the right to protect peacefully…

Unless you're trying to protect the rights of the British people of course.
Try that and you are labelled a right wing thug

Sereine · 09/09/2026 09:05

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 09:01

It was an elderly women doing it , she obviously felt threatened aswell . I cannot fathom that you refuse to accept that just because someone’s a woman doesn’t mean they are immune from making poor choices and judgement.

She felt threatened by someone heckling and asking Nigel about his millions? Don't be ridiculous.

soddingspiderseason · 09/09/2026 09:05

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 06:06

Well here’s the thing . Don’t disrupt and enrage people and the chances are you won’t get your hair pulled .

Blimey. So attacking women for exercising free speech is now acceptable? Not in the Britain I love. Just shows how immoral, ignorant and hypocritical Reform supporters are. Milkshake anyone?

Sereine · 09/09/2026 09:04

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:17

I agree. However, are people forgetting that one of their associates has just been murdered. If anyone thinks what this woman did was remotely clever, especially at this time, then perhaps it's time we all checked our standards. She shouldn't have been assaulted and she shouldn't have been there. It was downright fucking stupidity.

Using the murder of one supporter as an excuse to justify this sort of criminal assault is just crass and cynical, and really pretty offensive to the victim.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 09/09/2026 09:02

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 09:01

It was an elderly women doing it , she obviously felt threatened aswell . I cannot fathom that you refuse to accept that just because someone’s a woman doesn’t mean they are immune from making poor choices and judgement.

One woman, surrounded by men doing worse. Group psychology. Imagine if she had been the wrong colour!

HandPulledNoodles · 09/09/2026 09:02

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 08:58

This is ludicrous the whole bloody lot of them , all politicians are self serving . Where were the placards when Sir Keir took free clothes , glasses , concert tickets , sports tickets , accommodation etc or Angela Rayners highly dubious property and council tax affairs or what about Polanski gifting £1500 to his own party which isn’t allowed .
All of them have their hands in the trough , just because Farage was given millions supposedly for security ( and given the murder of AW and these conference. gatecrashers who could have had weapons you can see exactly why he’d be nervous ) the principle is the same and the left can’t portray a holier than though attitude when socialist politicians avail themselves of an awful lot .

But there was huge blowback over all of those things. Starmer was hammered over the freebies, Rayner faced enormous scrutiny and investigations and lost her government job, and Polanski's donation was reported and returned.

The difference is that none of that makes a £5 million undeclared gift to Farage somehow irrelevant. “Everyone does it” isn't really a defence if transparency matters, it should apply to all politicians, including Farage.

Nice attempt at a deflection though ...

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 09:01

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 09/09/2026 08:54

"we live in a democracy" from the person excusing violence towards a woman

It was an elderly women doing it , she obviously felt threatened aswell . I cannot fathom that you refuse to accept that just because someone’s a woman doesn’t mean they are immune from making poor choices and judgement.

bumblingbovine49 · 09/09/2026 09:00

YourWatermelonship · 09/09/2026 07:41

You, with your own eyes, presumably having seen the video

Do you think the manhandling, pushing, face grabbing, hair pulling and hitting with a walking stick are not assault?

I think manhandling, pushing and dragging her away seem borderline to me ( and I am vehemently anti reform). Of course she had the right to protest but I'd say as she was in a private area and causing a disturbance, reform should be able to remove her by using reasonable force if necessary so some manhandling night have been OK if she refused to leave

However, they should have asked her to leave first and hitting her with a stick as an initial immediate response to something she said and then piling on her when she was on the ground absolutely falls outside of reasonable force in my opinion. It certainly looked like a common assault to me on the video, but I am not a lawyer, what do I know

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 08:58

emuloc · 09/09/2026 08:41

"Where's the 5 million?" is a legitimate question that Farage needs to be asked every single day in every interaction.

Indeed.

This is ludicrous the whole bloody lot of them , all politicians are self serving . Where were the placards when Sir Keir took free clothes , glasses , concert tickets , sports tickets , accommodation etc or Angela Rayners highly dubious property and council tax affairs or what about Polanski gifting £1500 to his own party which isn’t allowed .
All of them have their hands in the trough , just because Farage was given millions supposedly for security ( and given the murder of AW and these conference. gatecrashers who could have had weapons you can see exactly why he’d be nervous ) the principle is the same and the left can’t portray a holier than though attitude when socialist politicians avail themselves of an awful lot .

EstherGreenwood63 · 09/09/2026 08:55

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 09/09/2026 08:54

"we live in a democracy" from the person excusing violence towards a woman

Yup, for expressing a differing opinion... They are not very intelligent on the whole though so...

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 09/09/2026 08:54

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 06:16

It’s so tedious . She didn’t even need to be there . No-one in that room would have had any interest in what she had to say . You and your ilk don’t like Reform , so what , plenty of others do so get over it . We live in a democracy, everyone can choose who they support and no amount of unwanted disruption will change that .

"we live in a democracy" from the person excusing violence towards a woman