AIBU to think Labour are worsening tensions at home and abroad?

Give it a rest, Kemi. Nobody's listening.

Agree. And Israel secretly sold weapons to Argentina during the Falklands war so not sure they value their relationship with us much.

also as a state Israel keeps on encroaching on occupied land and while I have sympathy with Israel over the Hamas attacks and that they had every right to defend themselves, I think Labours actions are spot on.

Wrong.

Jordan wants nothing to do with them because they took in Palestinian refugees from the West Bank in 1967 when Israel took the West Bank from Jordan in the Six Day War, only to have the PLO repay their hospitality by using a Jordanian border town (Karameh) as a base from which to attack Israel, thereby leading to reprisals by Israel, which almost started another war between Israel and Jordan. The Palestinians also assassinated the Jordanian prime minister and attempted to assassinate the King. A Palestinian group calling itself the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine staged a series of airline hijackings, seizing three civilian passenger flights and forcing their landing in the Jordanian city of Zarqa, where they took foreign nationals as hostages and blew up the planes in front of international press.

The Jordanian Army then went to war against the PLO and the PFLP and the Palestinians were eventually chased out of Jordan in 1971

Egyptian problems are the Muslim Brotherhood. Muslim Brotherhood have been trying to overthrow Egyptian governments since it started in the 1920s. The Muslim Brotherhood assassinated Egyptian President Anwar Sadat in 1981 because they made a peace deal with Israel in the 1979 Camp David Accords. Most importantly Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Jordan doesn’t want them because Abdullah, the current king of Jordan, fears they’ll overthrow him, which nearly happened to his father Hussein in 1970 when the PLO tried to take over the country.

The Egyptians don’t want them because they also fear the Arabs from Gaza will once again cause chaos.

The Palestinian leadership doesn’t fight for its subjects’ rights anywhere either. It gets funding to get militarized, pockets the humanitarian aid, uses its subjects—including children—as human shields and cannon fodder, and pursues only one goal: the destruction of Israel, so as to take over the territory as a Sharia state.

That's just for starters.

TPalestinians are obliged to vote for Hamas if they want to keep their jobs, homes and ability to feed their families......

We’re talking about atrocities that Israel is carrying out not refugees. We absolutely shouldn’t be supporting them in any way.

Because they don't agree with enabling Israel with ethnic cleansing and both countries already have a sizeable refugee population from Gaza that they cannot afford to support.

Strange then how many of their Muslim brethren are doing just that....... Wasn't it good of Egypt and Jordan to open their borders to Palestinian refugees from Gaza. Oh wait, they didn't? Why was that?

Is that you Kemi?

Bit harsh as a third of the people that attacked on 7 October were Palestinian, according to Hamas

I must say I am surprised.

Not really.

Wow so we just turn a blind eye to atrocities now do we because of history- no!

Many many people in this country have been appalled by Israel’s actions for some time,don’t want to touch anything from Israel and are relieved that finally a government has the balls to stand up to them.

It’s called doing the right thing.

I understood the question perfectly well. I simply chose to address the insinuation behind it rather than play along with it. I have nothing further to add.

Totally agree.

I was just thinking the same.

When you know the history and not just a selective recent part, you won't be so gullible.

Annoyed with myself for entering into this shit that belongs in the echo chamber of the CITME board.

And what year were the "most recent elections '?

Exactly this! 👏🏿

Wow so events that happened 6000 years ago negate atrocities happening now. Just no.

That they're murderous bastards.

Which doesn't serve as an excuse for the IDF to massacre civilians.

What are your thoughts on Hamas?

You really believe they are distinct from one another!

@hattie43

Do you follow the news at all?

1.Russia has NEVER been an ally. The West tried not to piss them off too much after Crimea was taken from Ukraine in 2014. Did it help? Like hell it did. Russia read it as a green light to take the rest of Ukraine. Shall we just let them crack on instead? What next? A NATO country?

2.USA. It has been Trump who has been pissing off the allies, not the other way around.
Buddying up with Putin and doing 180% turn on Ukraine.
Threatening to take Greenland from Denmark, a NATO country.
Starting tariff war with Canada, another ally.
Trying to bully his allies to join the pointless war in Iran. According to Pentagon there have been 808 American casualties, including 18 killed. Would you like to send British soldiers to the same fate? Would you send your children to fight there?

3.The relations with the sane NATO allies have been going from strength to strength under the Labour. Have you ever heard about the Coalition of the Willing for example? UK have been meeting regularly with France, Germany, Spain, Canada. They even managed to establish very good working relations with Meloni. She used to be Trump fan but not anymore.

4.It’s high time someone stood up to Netanyahu. Glad that our government has the guts to join other decent countries condemning his policies in the West Bank.

Hamas don't control the West Bank. The Palestinian Authority does. So Hamas is irrelevant here.

Shame you're not seeing what happened 6000 years ago.