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Two-tier face covering bans?

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ITMA2000 · 08/09/2026 14:40

So, some cities are going to introduce bans against face coverings- but it only applies to some people? Am I alone in thinking this is two-tier justice?

Nottingham announces balaclava ban as wearers face mega £1,000 fine for face coverings

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/nottingham-announces-balaclava-ban-as-wearers-face-mega-1-000-fine-for-face-coverings/ar-AA2bMNLq?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEESS&cvid=6aa00e8e2b3841ca821f4e41e5086393&ei=33

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AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 16:09

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

  1. The government are controlling immigration, boat crossings are down
  2. Brexit has led to higher incidences of small boats, and Nigel Farage led the Brexit charge
  3. Flags aren't banned
  4. Brits aren't demonised by the British government
  5. The RNLI is a charity. They save lives at sea. They are not political
Missedquirks · 08/09/2026 16:09

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 16:03

We had cotton ones supplied when the kids did go-karting. They were purple I think.

Black has sinister overtones.

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What a daft point!

On a scooter flying down the high street; running onto shops and clearing shelves and assaulting shop keepers - are you saying you wouldn’t be frightened if the person was wearing a cotton purple baklava instead of a woolly black one @AuntieBiotics

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:08

Backedoffhackedoff · 08/09/2026 16:02

yet small boat crossing have massively decreased in 2026! Aren’t you happy?

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Over half of a very large number is still a very large number.
We'll be happy when the boats have been stopped, and the hundreds of thousands already here deported.

BitOutOfPractice · 08/09/2026 16:07

TemperanceWest · 08/09/2026 15:33

I wish they'd ban balaclavas where I am. Might make the little idiots on e-bikes and scooters behave better.

This. No matter how hot it was this summer, these idiot e-bike / e-scooter riders would be dressed up for a snow day. You can’t help wondering why.

I think, op that’s what “the council” are getting at do you can shove your two tier justice bollocks.

Are you always this obtuse op?

LakieLady · 08/09/2026 16:05

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

The government don't "use" the RNLI for anything. It is a charity and the crews are mainly volunteers. Helping anyone in danger on the sea (and some inland waterways) is their primary objective, and rightly so.

Do you really think they should be checking people's immigration status or nationality before they get them out of the water?

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 16:05

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 15:58

I don't think a woman wearing a face covering to stop men having lustful thoughts is a legitimate reason.
Islamic face coverings are a symbol of female oppression, and have no place in British society. They should be banned. As should the wearing of religious symbols, including hijab, by anyone working for the state.

Do you think we should ban Jewish kippahs and Sikh turbans for state workers as well as the hijab?

I have met plenty of women with a hijab in the nhs and it’s never been a problem 🤷🏼‍♀️

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 16:03

LakieLady · 08/09/2026 15:49

Motorcyclists often wear them under their helmets, it helps to stop the visor fogging up and adds an extra layer for warmth. I've no idea why they're always black, but I've never seen them in any other colour.

My DF rode motorbikes when I was a kid and lightweight balaclavas weren't a thing. His face was like ice when he got home on a winter night.

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We had cotton ones supplied when the kids did go-karting. They were purple I think.

Black has sinister overtones.

nomas · 08/09/2026 16:03

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

Who has banned the St George flag?

AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 16:03

Puddlewoman · 08/09/2026 15:55

You are what my nan would have called a spuddler. Shouting nonsense trying to stir up trouble for your own entertainment.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10590/

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Ooh spuddler! Great term, really conjures up the spluttering and incoherence 😁I'm going to adopt your nan's term!

Backedoffhackedoff · 08/09/2026 16:02

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

yet small boat crossing have massively decreased in 2026! Aren’t you happy?

Ablondiebutagoody · 08/09/2026 16:01

AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 15:49

Okay, assuming you voted that way, care to tell us why?

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Because its clearly designed to prevent immigration protests that used face coverings quite effectively at the weekend.

People have been wearing face coverings for donkey's years and nothing has been done about it. I was approached by a gang with hoods and bandanas 20 years ago in south London.

Why now? It's to stamp out dissent and is disgusting.

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:59

Puddlewoman · 08/09/2026 15:55

You are what my nan would have called a spuddler. Shouting nonsense trying to stir up trouble for your own entertainment.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10590/

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Anyone who thinks 38,000 coming here is not a problem makes me wonder ……..

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 15:58

I don't think a woman wearing a face covering to stop men having lustful thoughts is a legitimate reason.
Islamic face coverings are a symbol of female oppression, and have no place in British society. They should be banned. As should the wearing of religious symbols, including hijab, by anyone working for the state.

nomas · 08/09/2026 15:56

Whaaaatszuuup · 08/09/2026 15:49

I live in Nottingham and I also have a black balaclava. I use it when I walk the dog. I don’t use it to disguise who I am and push my way out of Sports Direct with armfuls of booty. Nor do I wear it when i jump up and down on the roof of Debenhams or to get on the bus with an old lady’s bus pass I’ve mixed up with my own. Accidentally. I don’t wear it when I go round the city with a big gang of my mates.

It sounds similar to Westfield shopping centres, which don't allow hoodies to be worn on the head within the centres but does allow hijab.

Everything within logic.

Puddlewoman · 08/09/2026 15:55

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

You are what my nan would have called a spuddler. Shouting nonsense trying to stir up trouble for your own entertainment.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10590/

Missedquirks · 08/09/2026 15:51

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 15:47

And you don't mind looking like a bank robber?

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Not in the slightest…. I’m in a the woods behind my house. With a dog. In the early hours of the morning. It would be a pretty odd bank robber 😆

AutumnRussett · 08/09/2026 15:51

TemperanceWest · 08/09/2026 15:42

There is a difference between a woman choosing to wear a face covering and (usually) men wearing balaclavas on "protests" or kids wearing them when they are delivering drugs on e-bikes. But hey, any excuse to have a pop at Muslims, eh?

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It isn’t a choice . They have pressure out upon them by men to wear one . It’s to stop other men having lustful thoughts about them . It’s about control .

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 15:49

Berlinlover · 08/09/2026 15:30

Well currently 57% have voted YANBU.

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Okay, assuming you voted that way, care to tell us why?

Whaaaatszuuup · 08/09/2026 15:49

I live in Nottingham and I also have a black balaclava. I use it when I walk the dog. I don’t use it to disguise who I am and push my way out of Sports Direct with armfuls of booty. Nor do I wear it when i jump up and down on the roof of Debenhams or to get on the bus with an old lady’s bus pass I’ve mixed up with my own. Accidentally. I don’t wear it when I go round the city with a big gang of my mates.

LakieLady · 08/09/2026 15:49

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 15:43

I don't see any legitimate reason for buying / owning a black balaclava.

Motorcyclists often wear them under their helmets, it helps to stop the visor fogging up and adds an extra layer for warmth. I've no idea why they're always black, but I've never seen them in any other colour.

My DF rode motorbikes when I was a kid and lightweight balaclavas weren't a thing. His face was like ice when he got home on a winter night.

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 15:47

Missedquirks · 08/09/2026 15:44

I have one! Dog walk on a bitterly cold windy day in Jan it comes out

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And you don't mind looking like a bank robber?

TemperanceWest · 08/09/2026 15:46

Seems familiar 😁

Two-tier face covering bans?
LungSafe · 08/09/2026 15:45

ClaudiaWrinklemum · 08/09/2026 14:51

Nobody who uses the phrase ‘two tier’ ever has anything sensible to say.

This is so very true. I usually stop reading!

Missedquirks · 08/09/2026 15:44

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 15:43

I don't see any legitimate reason for buying / owning a black balaclava.

I have one! Dog walk on a bitterly cold windy day in Jan it comes out