Two-tier face covering bans?

NoNameNoOne · 10/09/2026 20:56

AuntieBiotics · 08/09/2026 15:43

I don't see any legitimate reason for buying / owning a black balaclava.

My husband wears one under his motorbike helmet. He is white and bald. He didn't go on the march, but apparently owning one is enough to class you as a thick thug on Mumsnet.

RuralLiving123 · 09/09/2026 15:49

Missedquirks · 08/09/2026 15:15

Accept with regard to venue seating tickets

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Or cake stands

montysmaw · 09/09/2026 15:39

I mean you can hardly move where I live for hijab wearing women rioting............

Oh wait, my mistake.
What meant to write was, my local city centre has been brought to a stand still this week by white men in balaclavas.

aberamagold · 09/09/2026 15:23

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 17:27

But if a Jewish person comes to work in a hospital and then has to remove their kippah, they are having to hide their identity. It was terrible around here when Jewish kids had to remove their star of David because of fear of attacks. We need to have zero tolerance of prejudice.

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They are not 'hiding their identity'. They are taking up their role as a health care professional, which they have to prioritise over any personal beliefs they hold.

I think its reasonable to expect employees of the state to be required to appear completely impartial. Especially in a multicultural society where there is increasing conflict between members of different religious and political groups.

MsGreying · 08/09/2026 23:25

TemperanceWest · 08/09/2026 15:33

I wish they'd ban balaclavas where I am. Might make the little idiots on e-bikes and scooters behave better.

They'd have to catch them first
I think we should be allowed to paint ball them at certain locations.

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ITMA2000 · 08/09/2026 22:59

Openmouthinsertfood · 08/09/2026 21:00

Did you know it's because it's belived there are 10 parts to sexuality and men have one, women have 9. So the poor mens can't help themselves when it comes to lustiing over women. That's why the women cover up. Because the men can't control themselves.

EDIT: Sorry, should have made it clearer I was agreeing with you about control!

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That is true: The idea that sexual desire is split into ten parts—with nine parts given to women and one to men—comes from a traditional saying attributed to Ali ibn Abu Talib, an early and foundational figure in Islamic history.
Though while it isn't true men can't help themselves (they can assert self-control), women should try to redress the balance by trying to appear unattractive and avoid going out in public without a male relative.

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ITMA2000 · 08/09/2026 21:24

NotAnotherScarf · 08/09/2026 20:23

Whi h is why we need to ban all face coverings in every public situation. Thugs yes. People attacking protests yes. Women brainwashed into thinking that they will be at risk should a man see her face yes. Criminals riding illegal vehicles yes.

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I agree, no need for face coverings unless for safety or health- welders, bike riders, surgical masks, etc. are sensible.
But no one needs to hide their face doing everyday activities.

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MumofCandR · 08/09/2026 21:05

YABVU

Openmouthinsertfood · 08/09/2026 21:00

AutumnRussett · 08/09/2026 15:51

It isn’t a choice . They have pressure out upon them by men to wear one . It’s to stop other men having lustful thoughts about them . It’s about control .

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Did you know it's because it's belived there are 10 parts to sexuality and men have one, women have 9. So the poor mens can't help themselves when it comes to lustiing over women. That's why the women cover up. Because the men can't control themselves.

EDIT: Sorry, should have made it clearer I was agreeing with you about control!

NotAnotherScarf · 08/09/2026 20:23

TemperanceWest · 08/09/2026 15:33

I wish they'd ban balaclavas where I am. Might make the little idiots on e-bikes and scooters behave better.

Whi h is why we need to ban all face coverings in every public situation. Thugs yes. People attacking protests yes. Women brainwashed into thinking that they will be at risk should a man see her face yes. Criminals riding illegal vehicles yes.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 08/09/2026 20:06

ClaudiaWrinklemum · 08/09/2026 14:51

Nobody who uses the phrase ‘two tier’ ever has anything sensible to say.

Oh now that's a bit unfair. I happen to know a very sensible wedding cake maker who uses the word two tier quite a lot. Often she gets a bit excited and goes 3 tier.

Cardhey · 08/09/2026 17:50

a person wearing a motorbike helmet with visor open walks it on say a shop, gets told to get out or take helmet off.

a person walks into a shop with a hijab on, nothing……

hmmmmmm

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 17:33

Summeriscumin · 08/09/2026 16:13

Post racist shit and run, eh?

I am embarrassed that I have even posted on a ‘two-tier’ thread. Must do better!

ChalkOutlines · 08/09/2026 17:31

Poor poor discriminated babies.

two groups of youths wearing balaclavas confront each other with machetes in full view of families and shoppers at the Winter Wonderland Christmas market.

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/christmas

ghostyslovesheets · 08/09/2026 17:31

Smokeywater · 08/09/2026 15:50

The problem is not the balaclavas it’s that many British want immigration,the boats controlled and that the Gov won’t do it -I mean this is what caused Brexit- so the Gov instead of sorting immigration bans St George flags, balaclavas, I mean - do your job Gov don’t demonise the British whilst using RnLI to rescue illegal immigrants - why are you in Parliament -for the pension??

So you admit Brexit was a failure!

the number of people arriving by boat is down by the way

We have immigration controls in the UK

The government do not fund the RNLI it’s a charity funded by donations (made one today) and staffed by volunteers

LungSafe · 08/09/2026 17:27

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:56

I don't think Jews should hide their identity.

I just think that sometimes at work personal 'identities', whether Jewish/Muslim or gender-critical feminist or whatever, are not relevant, and don't need to be advertised to service users.

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But if a Jewish person comes to work in a hospital and then has to remove their kippah, they are having to hide their identity. It was terrible around here when Jewish kids had to remove their star of David because of fear of attacks. We need to have zero tolerance of prejudice.

Cardhey · 08/09/2026 17:24

One rule for some, another rule for others…. Stupid. Most of Europe are banning face coverings. We are the twats.

TY78910 · 08/09/2026 17:24

LakieLady · 08/09/2026 15:49

Motorcyclists often wear them under their helmets, it helps to stop the visor fogging up and adds an extra layer for warmth. I've no idea why they're always black, but I've never seen them in any other colour.

My DF rode motorbikes when I was a kid and lightweight balaclavas weren't a thing. His face was like ice when he got home on a winter night.

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Bit different to when it’s under a helmet and you’re riding a motorbike to being on foot with your hood up.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/09/2026 17:23

They could and should have left out the ‘non religious’ part because the important aspect of the group who they want to prevent wearing face coverings is ‘if they have reason to believe they are hiding their identity to commit crime or intimidate others.’

Yep, that’s the ‘two tier policing’ going on here - police taking action against people who are engaged in unlawful behaviour and not against those who aren’t.😂

AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 17:07

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:56

I don't think Jews should hide their identity.

I just think that sometimes at work personal 'identities', whether Jewish/Muslim or gender-critical feminist or whatever, are not relevant, and don't need to be advertised to service users.

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Not relevant to you.

People don't wear yarmulkes, hijab, crosses etc to advertise anything to you @aberamagold , and probably aren't interested in your views on their religion.

Freedom yeah?

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 16:56

AmethystDeceiver · 08/09/2026 16:31

So because some people are anti-Semitic, Jews should hide their identity?

That's not what Holocaust survivor grandparents taught me. You don't speak for me with that one

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I don't think Jews should hide their identity.

I just think that sometimes at work personal 'identities', whether Jewish/Muslim or gender-critical feminist or whatever, are not relevant, and don't need to be advertised to service users.

JHound · 08/09/2026 16:54

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 15:58

I don't think a woman wearing a face covering to stop men having lustful thoughts is a legitimate reason.
Islamic face coverings are a symbol of female oppression, and have no place in British society. They should be banned. As should the wearing of religious symbols, including hijab, by anyone working for the state.

Yes - we must liberate women by oppressing them!

JHound · 08/09/2026 16:52

ITMA2000 · 08/09/2026 14:40

So, some cities are going to introduce bans against face coverings- but it only applies to some people? Am I alone in thinking this is two-tier justice?

Nottingham announces balaclava ban as wearers face mega £1,000 fine for face coverings

God almighty this two-tier thing is so tiring.

Not it’s not particularly weird for religious exemptions. That is not alien to British society.

Anyahyacinth · 08/09/2026 16:52

aberamagold · 08/09/2026 15:58

I don't think a woman wearing a face covering to stop men having lustful thoughts is a legitimate reason.
Islamic face coverings are a symbol of female oppression, and have no place in British society. They should be banned. As should the wearing of religious symbols, including hijab, by anyone working for the state.

There go our freedoms

bababamama · 08/09/2026 16:50

Well I think we know what the op is talking about but it is not the point of the policy. People, probably young people but we really don’t know who they are, are committing crimes with faces covered so balaclavas need to be banned in certain places. If there’s a spate of crimes by ladies in niqabs then it will be looked at but I’m not aware of any! (I know several niqab wearing women and all are law abiding!)