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To think challenge 25 has gone too far?

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wanderingwillows · 08/09/2026 14:29

I am 34 and semi-regularly get ID’d. It happens often enough such that if I’m buying wine etc I always bring my ID with me.
I appreciate that perhaps I might look in my 20s at a stretch, I refuse to believe that anyone could think I am 17 and therefore not legal to buy booze. But the response will always be “but it’s challenge 25”

AIBU to think it’s completely ridiculous to refuse someone sale of alcohol even when it’s blatantly obvious they’re not 17 (or younger)?

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BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 14/09/2026 08:13

Mokel · 14/09/2026 07:04

Last year I bought some gin on Amazon as it was a very good price.

They do say that your ID will be checked on delivery and even on the delivery label mentions that IID needs to be checked

There's a big difference, though, between somebody using a keyboard - and possibly another person's account - to order an age-restricted product, and a middle-aged person walking in plain sight into a shop and wanting a bottle of wine.

daffodilandtulip · 14/09/2026 07:11

I’m 46 and regularly get IDd. Absolutely no way I look under 25. 20yo daughter got refused vitamin tablets the other day. Apparently you have to be 14 😂

Mokel · 14/09/2026 07:04

Last year I bought some gin on Amazon as it was a very good price.

They do say that your ID will be checked on delivery and even on the delivery label mentions that IID needs to be checked

TheWytch · 13/09/2026 15:09

MummyWillow1 · 12/09/2026 18:09

People must be serious alcoholics if they can’t go without a bit of alcohol occasionally.

But that's it isn' it?

It's not just alcohol and cigarettes is it? It's things as basic as teaspoons! Things that have no legal age restrictions on them.

ConstantlyFuriosa · 13/09/2026 02:19

To be fair, I am an alcoholic (hic) but I need me some teaspoons, bad.

/satire

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 12/09/2026 23:55

MummyWillow1 · 12/09/2026 18:09

People must be serious alcoholics if they can’t go without a bit of alcohol occasionally.

What on earth gives you the impression that they're normally able to buy it but are only challenged on this one occasion? If supermarkets were to stop selling everything that people don't need, that would be 90% of the contents of the shop that would go.

I don't drink alcohol at all, but I can understand how many adults do enjoy it responsibly. Even then, I still have to be 'allowed' to buy 0% alcohol wine or beer by somebody at the till verifying that I'm over 18... even though the actual legal minimum age for not buying alcohol is 0 years old.

Thankfully, I've always easily looked my age plus VAT, so they instantly press the 'do not challenge' button; but if I didn't, and I didn't have ID with me, they could potentially refuse to sell me drinks with no minimum age limit for purchase whatsoever, on the grounds that they can't be certain that I'm over 18! Oh, and to clarify, I'm not an alcoholic either.

Mindboggl · 12/09/2026 23:02

It wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. I have ID, they can check it. I’m too much of an old bag for them to do it these days though!

UnderThePressure · 12/09/2026 22:59

I went on a night out with my 22 year old daughter.
Trying to get into a pub, the doorman asked my daughter for ID.
My daughter showed her driver's licence and she started walking towards the door.
I followed her, and got stopped, asking me for ID.
I am 47, but apparently they need valid ID for everyone?
I didn't have any on me as I don't drive and don't carry my passport around anymore as I've never needed it.
I said she was my daughter and she's 22 so how can I not be old enough, I also offered to show them my bank card to show we had the same surname
The pub next door was happy to have our business.

Freta36 · 12/09/2026 21:53

Sunbringer · 10/09/2026 08:17

Of course! Let me just take my non existing driving licence out with me! Half of London doesn’t drive

No need to be so snarky. Provisional licenses exist.

ConstantlyFuriosa · 12/09/2026 21:52

MummyWillow1 · 12/09/2026 18:05

Still a minor inconvenience - no one NEEDS alcohol that desperately they can’t come back later. Just go without 🤷‍♀️

As lots of people have stated, it isn’t only alcohol at all. Teaspoons were cited, ffs. Teaspoons.

Backedoffhackedoff · 12/09/2026 18:50

MummyWillow1 · 12/09/2026 18:09

People must be serious alcoholics if they can’t go without a bit of alcohol occasionally.

This is such a dumb thought to have

MummyWillow1 · 12/09/2026 18:09

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 09/09/2026 12:08

But what if you don't have any ID? And not everybody wants to carry it with them, even if they do. Lots of people (not me, I'm old-fashioned!) just keep everything on their phones - loyalty cards, payment cards etc. - and they don't want to have to find somewhere to keep an ID card as well (safely, so that it doesn't get dropped, lost or stolen), just because they might fancy a bottle of wine or a few cans of beer, and a shop assistant can't accept that somebody who looks clearly middle aged or even grandparent age is not under 18.

It also seems to defeat the object of making shopping easier, quicker and more efficient in every way possible. loyalty cards and vouchers/coupons are now all on your phone. As I said, they've made it so you can pay with your phone. Even aside from using your phone to pay, it was considered too onerous to press 5 buttons on the chip & pin machine if you do have a physical bank card, so they brought in contactless.

Yes, of course people can survive with transactions taking longer; but they just don't want to have to nowadays. Even cars are built with automatic headlights that often don't work properly to save drivers from having to waste half a second clicking a switch.

If shops are really so permanently petrified about selling alcohol or cigarettes, why don't they just not sell them at all, and save themselves all the bother?

People must be serious alcoholics if they can’t go without a bit of alcohol occasionally.

MummyWillow1 · 12/09/2026 18:05

ConstantlyFuriosa · 09/09/2026 17:40

Unless, as stated before, you are over 40 or 50 and don’t have ID. Many people of that age do not.

Still a minor inconvenience - no one NEEDS alcohol that desperately they can’t come back later. Just go without 🤷‍♀️

FFSItsTooHot · 12/09/2026 16:45

I think it has gone too far. My 43 year old DD gets challenged from time to time, and although she does look a bit younger than 43,I don't think she looks under 25!

JuneJuneHannah · 12/09/2026 16:43

Yes!! I’m 35 and got IDd for fucking RAZORS recently

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 12/09/2026 16:29

DeftGoldHedgehog · 12/09/2026 15:16

Um, just things like proving your right to work, opening a bank account or claiming benefits.

Nothing important Confused

I said routinely. How often do most people do all of those? And plenty of those scenarios would require several forms of ID - not just one single card.

I'm not saying it can't be a helpful thing for some people, if their circumstances suit it.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 12/09/2026 15:16

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 12/09/2026 11:59

I can't personally think of much else I would be routinely asked for ID for, though. I know you now need it for voting at elections; but apart from that and buying age-restricted goods - which many adults don't, even though they would be allowed to - what other scenarios require it? Getting into clubs, maybe, if you're a party animal?!

Um, just things like proving your right to work, opening a bank account or claiming benefits.

Nothing important Confused

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 12/09/2026 13:06

Mokel · 12/09/2026 12:49

I remember buying some teaspoons and got the think 25 flag up. It is because they are used in heroin use

It's mad, though, isn't it? Yes, they can be used for people taking heroin; but 99.999% of the time, they're going to be used for boringly mundane things like sugar, stirring coffee and taking medicine.

Similarly, tins of beans or frozen turkeys could be used for committing a murder, by whacking somebody over the head with them... but nobody is suggesting restricting the sale of beans or turkeys!

Mokel · 12/09/2026 12:49

I remember buying some teaspoons and got the think 25 flag up. It is because they are used in heroin use

WutheringTights · 12/09/2026 12:06

I had to show my passport recently to buy a set of cutlery (just table knives, forks and spoons, nothing actually sharp). I’m in my early 50s.

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 12/09/2026 11:59

DeftGoldHedgehog · 10/09/2026 10:55

It's hardly the only thing you would need ID for to be a functioning member of society without a driving licence or passport though is it? £15 doesn't seem bad overall, cheaper than either of the above.

I can't personally think of much else I would be routinely asked for ID for, though. I know you now need it for voting at elections; but apart from that and buying age-restricted goods - which many adults don't, even though they would be allowed to - what other scenarios require it? Getting into clubs, maybe, if you're a party animal?!

celticprincess · 12/09/2026 11:36

BobMumBobIsMyDog · 08/09/2026 14:38

DD was also refused paracetamol in Sainsbury's garage, despite having driven there. Surely some common sense should be applied.

So what I’ve noticed is that in Sainsbury’s on self checkout you have to wait for someone to come and authorise your payment if buying paracetamol. In Asda you don’t. I just paid and it all went through. I’ve told my 17 year old (who has no ID to carry) if she ever needs some to go to Asda.

celticprincess · 12/09/2026 11:34

NeededANameChangeAnyway · 08/09/2026 15:02

I was with DS (12 at the time) in HobbyCraft and he was using birthday money to buy spray paint which he was going to use on our garage wall. We had a big chat with the checkout person about this as we were loading the cans onto the checkout bit so she knew DS was the one who was using them but she couldn't let him use his card to pay for them as he was underage! I had to pay using my card.

I'm glad she still let us buy them but it was just bonkers that he couldn't use his card, if I had his card in my purse I could have used the same card to buy them but since he took the card out of his wallet she had to say no!

We had this in home bargains recently but they wouldn’t let me buy. My 14 year old was ahead of me in the queue and paying for her own things. She wanted some teeth whitening strips. Suitable for over 12 (some say over 18). She went to pay and was refused so she gave them to me to buy. I was refused as the server knew they were for her.

MyWildOliveGoose · 11/09/2026 07:45

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 10/09/2026 09:24

Some people deliberately tell persistent chuggers that they are under 18 to get rid of them, even when it's very blatantly a lie. Apparently, the technique works very well in helping you to get on with your day unaccosted.

Yes I might start using it more often! 🤣

strugglinguphill · 10/09/2026 18:12

Sunbringer · 09/09/2026 10:21

So challenge 25 not 30+

Yeah, although it can be tricky to judge people’s ages.

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