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What has JK Rowling said or done that’s transphobic

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Ducketta · 08/09/2026 13:26

Another thread has said that they don’t want their thread to be derailed. Y HK Rowling and morals, so I’ll start one. Can anyone please tell me what JK Rowling has ever said or done that’s transphobic? Please be specific and outline how she has been offensive to trans people and not just been protective women and girls hard fought right to separate single sex spaces.

I cannot find anything whatsoever that she has done wrong. Nothing. Nada. And yet this JK Rowling = queen of transphobia myth persists. And it’s bloody tiresome.

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akkakk · 10/09/2026 17:35

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 15:50

Yes and the test for whether someone is trans, is whether they recognise themselves to be other than the sex they were assigned at birth. There are actual psychological tests for this.

So 'being trans' is psychological?
After all you don't mention any physical tests...

Yet sex is a physical thing - your genitals are physical, your hormones are physical, your chromosomes are physical...

so to prove / demonstrate / even suggest that a man can change sex to a woman, must mean a complete physical change - which we know to be impossible...

so, we can easily rule out the possibility of any physical tests - they can never show someone having transitioned...

So we are back to psychological - i.e. it is all in the mind...
ties in with what everyone else has been saying - that it is a mental health issue...

I am glad though that you finally recognise that it is not possible to physically change sex.

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 17:40

soddingspiderseason · 10/09/2026 17:02

My sexed body is my material reality. My brain is part of my body, influenced by the complex relationship between the body’s hormones, brain chemistry etc etc. People cannot “perceive” themselves into a different material reality. What does “recognising one’s sex” even mean? You are either a sex or you are not.

Correct. Your sexed body is material reality, and your brain is part of that material reality too. Nobody is suggesting that a person can “perceive” their anatomy into being different anatomy.

“Recognising one’s sex” means exactly what it sounds like: knowing oneself to be male or female. For most people that recognition corresponds completely unremarkably with their anatomy, so they have little reason ever to think about it.

For a trans person, those things do not align. A trans woman can be perfectly aware that she was born with male sexual anatomy while nevertheless recognising herself as female. She is not deluded that she has ovaries or XX chromosomes, nor is she thinking her body into a different physical state.

The interesting question is why the brain’s representation of the self can sometimes be incongruent with sexual anatomy. Simply replying “that’s impossible because anatomy” is completely circular and also demonstrably false.

akkakk · 10/09/2026 17:45

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 16:58

No — because you are still assuming that recognising oneself as female must either be reducible to anatomy, or else it must depend on access to some universal “female feeling”. But those are not the only possibilities, and both models fail to account for what trans people actually report experiencing.

The existence of no single, universal way to “feel female” does not mean that a person cannot have a stable internal recognition of themselves as female. Nor does that recognition have to be based on either sexist stereotypes or physical anatomy.

You are treating the absence of a simple external frame of reference as proof that the experience cannot be real. But that conclusion does not follow at all. That's not how mental/ cognitive processes work. You can have a stable sense of something without possessing an external measuring stick for it. For example, you can recognise that a particular body part feels like “yours”, that a movement feels natural or alien, or that you are anxious, without comparing yourself against some universal template of how everyone else experiences those things.

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you are right - you can have a stable internal recognition of something... without that something being fact

people can have a stable internal recognition that they are napoleon bonaparte or God or some other (usually powerful dictator) - society recognises that for something we call delusion, or mental health issues (mental illness as it used to be) and such people if not able to be stabilised with drugs are locked up...

bearing in mind that every 'trans woman' is born a man and remains a man - they will have had plenty of opportunity to study their genitals and to know that their anatomy is male - so to have alongside that a 'stable internal recognition' of something totally the opposite has to be a mental health issue - it can be nothing else because it is not based on fact.

So - yes, I would agree there are those who genuinely are born men, remain men, but somehow are psychologically convinced that they are women - but we don't treat that in society by also all pretending they are women - but by treating the mental health issues that cause that belief...

of course there are then others who pretend to be women for more nefarious reasons, and those we need to call out and deal with in other ways...

MoistVonL · 10/09/2026 17:49

Correct. Your sexed body is material reality, and your brain is part of that material reality too.

And if your brain perceived your body as being something it cannot be (like a woman with testicles or a man with a clitoris and ovaries) then there is something wrong with your mind's function.

If I believed I had an extra toe or only one lung or that my left leg didn't belong to me, I would require psychiatric help to accept the truth about myself. A woman claiming her ovaries make her no less of a man would require the same thing.

It doesn't matter how honestly, devoutly and earnestly that perception is experienced; it's not something that can be true because sex is binary and immutable in mammals.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 10/09/2026 17:50

alcovecupboards · 10/09/2026 15:58

I'm sure that sounded very good in your head - but it isn't the case. To be gay is to be - as unverifiable as that is. To be trans is the same level of unverifiable. No need to change words or meanings - it just is.

Oh dear. I bet that sounded good in your head 😂

You are confusing unverifiable and unfalsifiable.

My post isn't addressing whether being trans is verifiable. Can it be proved that a trans person's claim they feel like the opposite sex is true. And no, I agree with you that no one can ever say that a self reported feeling is truly being felt.

My post is addressing whether being trans is unfalisfiable. Can it be proved that a trans person's claim that what they feel is what the opposite sex feel is not true. And that can indeed be proved eaily, as indeed it has been on this thread, simply by asking people of the opposite sex whether they do indeed feel as the trans person claims to.

BackToLurk · 10/09/2026 17:50

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 17:40

Correct. Your sexed body is material reality, and your brain is part of that material reality too. Nobody is suggesting that a person can “perceive” their anatomy into being different anatomy.

“Recognising one’s sex” means exactly what it sounds like: knowing oneself to be male or female. For most people that recognition corresponds completely unremarkably with their anatomy, so they have little reason ever to think about it.

For a trans person, those things do not align. A trans woman can be perfectly aware that she was born with male sexual anatomy while nevertheless recognising herself as female. She is not deluded that she has ovaries or XX chromosomes, nor is she thinking her body into a different physical state.

The interesting question is why the brain’s representation of the self can sometimes be incongruent with sexual anatomy. Simply replying “that’s impossible because anatomy” is completely circular and also demonstrably false.

Can a person recognise themself as having a different skin colour other than is suggested by their physical attributes? Can a person recognise themself as being taller than is suggested by their physical anatomy? Can a person recognise themselves as belonging to a different family other than is suggested by their DNA? Or is it uniquely sex that this applies to?

soddingspiderseason · 10/09/2026 17:56

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 17:40

Correct. Your sexed body is material reality, and your brain is part of that material reality too. Nobody is suggesting that a person can “perceive” their anatomy into being different anatomy.

“Recognising one’s sex” means exactly what it sounds like: knowing oneself to be male or female. For most people that recognition corresponds completely unremarkably with their anatomy, so they have little reason ever to think about it.

For a trans person, those things do not align. A trans woman can be perfectly aware that she was born with male sexual anatomy while nevertheless recognising herself as female. She is not deluded that she has ovaries or XX chromosomes, nor is she thinking her body into a different physical state.

The interesting question is why the brain’s representation of the self can sometimes be incongruent with sexual anatomy. Simply replying “that’s impossible because anatomy” is completely circular and also demonstrably false.

Thank you. So if I’m reading you right, the claim that transwomen are women cannot be true, as they cannot become a different material reality to their actual sexed body. If someone has incongruous feelings about their body, then that is a mental health issue. That needs compassion and support. Not affirmation that they are indeed something that they are not, and never can be.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 10/09/2026 17:57

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 16:02

Homosexuality is real. Being trans is real.

Being trans is real, for the people who feel it.

Being physically female or male is certainly real, has real physical, social and economic consequences, and has nothing whatsoever to do with how trans people may or may not "recognise" their sex as something different and non-physical.

Trans people being in any way closer to members of the opposite physical sex than anyone else of their physical sex is is not real.

And that means there's no justification to treat them as if they are. Including not using the language of the opposite sex for them.

Simples.

backformoreofthesame · 10/09/2026 18:02

Being gay is real

being trans is real

but they are real in different ways

one is identifiable without needing to have anything spoken by a person

the other relies on their communication of their internal mental state

but the realness of it is irrelevant. Just because it’s real to the person doesn’t mean we have to accept it as truth or accept that it has any impact on anything.

so they really think they are female. That mental image is real. BUT . There is no measurable evidence that they are female. There is measurable evidence that they are male.

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:12

akkakk · 10/09/2026 17:45

you are right - you can have a stable internal recognition of something... without that something being fact

people can have a stable internal recognition that they are napoleon bonaparte or God or some other (usually powerful dictator) - society recognises that for something we call delusion, or mental health issues (mental illness as it used to be) and such people if not able to be stabilised with drugs are locked up...

bearing in mind that every 'trans woman' is born a man and remains a man - they will have had plenty of opportunity to study their genitals and to know that their anatomy is male - so to have alongside that a 'stable internal recognition' of something totally the opposite has to be a mental health issue - it can be nothing else because it is not based on fact.

So - yes, I would agree there are those who genuinely are born men, remain men, but somehow are psychologically convinced that they are women - but we don't treat that in society by also all pretending they are women - but by treating the mental health issues that cause that belief...

of course there are then others who pretend to be women for more nefarious reasons, and those we need to call out and deal with in other ways...

You are still treating gender identity as though it were a false factual proposition, and that is the mistake.

A delusion is a false belief about reality — “I am Napoleon Bonaparte”, “the government has implanted a chip in my head”, and so on. A trans woman is not usually claiming that she was born with ovaries, XX chromosomes or female reproductive anatomy. She can understand those facts perfectly well.

What differs is her internal recognition of herself as female. That is not the same kind of claim as “I am Napoleon”. It is not a mistaken belief about an external fact; it is a feature of how she experiences and understands herself.

The existence of that internal recognition is itself a fact. It is you who are denying an observed reality when you insist that this experience cannot genuinely exist.

You can insist that anatomy should determine the words “male” and “female” in every possible context, but that is a philosophical and linguistic position. It does not turn a person’s gender identity into a delusion or a mental illness.

TheJuryIsOut · 10/09/2026 18:13

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:12

You are still treating gender identity as though it were a false factual proposition, and that is the mistake.

A delusion is a false belief about reality — “I am Napoleon Bonaparte”, “the government has implanted a chip in my head”, and so on. A trans woman is not usually claiming that she was born with ovaries, XX chromosomes or female reproductive anatomy. She can understand those facts perfectly well.

What differs is her internal recognition of herself as female. That is not the same kind of claim as “I am Napoleon”. It is not a mistaken belief about an external fact; it is a feature of how she experiences and understands herself.

The existence of that internal recognition is itself a fact. It is you who are denying an observed reality when you insist that this experience cannot genuinely exist.

You can insist that anatomy should determine the words “male” and “female” in every possible context, but that is a philosophical and linguistic position. It does not turn a person’s gender identity into a delusion or a mental illness.

Ok so using the example of another poster, should someone who is black be able to "feel" white and change their race even if they accept that they were born black? Or vice versa

FlirtsWithRhinos · 10/09/2026 18:14

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 16:14

That's not what I said. I don't think trans people are delusional, I also don't agree with your understanding of "what they really are".

A trans woman is a person who recognises themselves as female despite having male anatomy.

A trans man is a person who recognises themselves as male despite having female anatomy.

What is it to be "female despite having a male anatomy" and how does this relate to the experiences and needs of people who have female anatomy?

Outside what seems to be a very limited experience of simply "recognising oneself female" , are there any other ways in which these two groups are more related any other groups of humans of opposite sex anatomy?

(Anticipating there being no answer. That is itself, of course, an answer).

sunshine244 · 10/09/2026 18:15

When I worked alongside mental health staff the issue of religion vs mental illness came up a lot. Generally if someone was having unusual religious beliefs that was not treated as a mental illness unless it was causing harm to self or others.

This often really upset families who were concerned about people they loved developing extreme religious beliefs. Joining a cult, believing you are a God, starting a new religion etc can't be forcibly treated unless there is proof of harm.

BackToLurk · 10/09/2026 18:15

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:12

You are still treating gender identity as though it were a false factual proposition, and that is the mistake.

A delusion is a false belief about reality — “I am Napoleon Bonaparte”, “the government has implanted a chip in my head”, and so on. A trans woman is not usually claiming that she was born with ovaries, XX chromosomes or female reproductive anatomy. She can understand those facts perfectly well.

What differs is her internal recognition of herself as female. That is not the same kind of claim as “I am Napoleon”. It is not a mistaken belief about an external fact; it is a feature of how she experiences and understands herself.

The existence of that internal recognition is itself a fact. It is you who are denying an observed reality when you insist that this experience cannot genuinely exist.

You can insist that anatomy should determine the words “male” and “female” in every possible context, but that is a philosophical and linguistic position. It does not turn a person’s gender identity into a delusion or a mental illness.

And this only applies to sex?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 10/09/2026 18:20

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:12

You are still treating gender identity as though it were a false factual proposition, and that is the mistake.

A delusion is a false belief about reality — “I am Napoleon Bonaparte”, “the government has implanted a chip in my head”, and so on. A trans woman is not usually claiming that she was born with ovaries, XX chromosomes or female reproductive anatomy. She can understand those facts perfectly well.

What differs is her internal recognition of herself as female. That is not the same kind of claim as “I am Napoleon”. It is not a mistaken belief about an external fact; it is a feature of how she experiences and understands herself.

The existence of that internal recognition is itself a fact. It is you who are denying an observed reality when you insist that this experience cannot genuinely exist.

You can insist that anatomy should determine the words “male” and “female” in every possible context, but that is a philosophical and linguistic position. It does not turn a person’s gender identity into a delusion or a mental illness.

That is just pissing around with language though.

Whatever you are deciding to label Gender Identity, by your own argument it is different to body sex.

Deciding that you want Man and Woman (and now "male" and "female" as well 🙄) to label the identity rather than the body doesn't mean the body stops existing, nor does it change the way our physical and social experiences are shaped by the body we actually have and the way people react to it.

So frankly, whatever it is you believe is the "reality" of trans people is entirely irrelevant to the needs, rights and language of the sexed body. The only point of connection is stolen language and how it has been leveraged to steal resources and rights.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 10/09/2026 18:23

alcovecupboards · 10/09/2026 15:31

I responded to a post that said being trans is unverifiable. I have shown that by that metric being gay is also unverifiable. You and I both know what being gay is - we also both know what being trans is. You not accepting that people can feel that they are a different gender to their biological sex doesn't change that. Something that JK Rowling and I agree on.

I’m afraid you haven’t really shown that.

A person is gay if they are attracted to the same sex. They will generally have relationships with people of the same sex. ‘Verification’ (except in Islamic countries where severe penalties are applied to homosexuals) is not relevant and has little impact on others.

Being ‘trans’ however, is a very different situation. There is nothing in the world that can verify that a man is really a woman (and vice versa) because they just aren’t. No one has ever changed sex.

The impact on others is great because the demands from ‘trans’ is that everyone has to pretend that they are the opposite sex and accommodate them accordingly. Even when it is dangerous, uncomfortable or just undesirable to do so.

Gender is just a word that used to be used as a polite way of referring to sex which was appropriated and twisted in the 1960s by a man with a very damaging mission. So it’s not actually a ‘thing’.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 10/09/2026 18:26

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:12

You are still treating gender identity as though it were a false factual proposition, and that is the mistake.

A delusion is a false belief about reality — “I am Napoleon Bonaparte”, “the government has implanted a chip in my head”, and so on. A trans woman is not usually claiming that she was born with ovaries, XX chromosomes or female reproductive anatomy. She can understand those facts perfectly well.

What differs is her internal recognition of herself as female. That is not the same kind of claim as “I am Napoleon”. It is not a mistaken belief about an external fact; it is a feature of how she experiences and understands herself.

The existence of that internal recognition is itself a fact. It is you who are denying an observed reality when you insist that this experience cannot genuinely exist.

You can insist that anatomy should determine the words “male” and “female” in every possible context, but that is a philosophical and linguistic position. It does not turn a person’s gender identity into a delusion or a mental illness.

I've asked you many times under many other names, but hope springs eternal...

Do you believe the trans person's "internal recognition" of themself as the opposite sex despite their body is a recognition of a true commonality between themselves and the opposite sex, in other words does the trans person's experience tell us something true about the sex of everyone, or do you believe that the trans person's "internal recognition" is more like colourblindness, a genuine experience as they perceive it but not in fact a true facet of the opposite sex?

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:31

TheJuryIsOut · 10/09/2026 18:13

Ok so using the example of another poster, should someone who is black be able to "feel" white and change their race even if they accept that they were born black? Or vice versa

No, because the analogy does not map across.

There is no recognised medical or developmental phenomenon equivalent to gender dysphoria in which people consistently experience themselves as belonging to a different race from the one associated with their ancestry and social classification.

And race is not biologically organised in the same way as sex. Sex is a biological system tied to reproductive development, anatomy, hormones and chromosomes. Race is a much looser social classification built around ancestry, appearance and history, with boundaries that vary across societies.

So to say that a person can have a stable internal sex/gender identity that is incongruent with their anatomy, does not logically imply that you must also believe that someone can simply "identify into" another race. The comparison only works if you first assume that race and sex identity are the same kind of phenomenon, and there is no good reason to assume that.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 10/09/2026 18:33

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:12

You are still treating gender identity as though it were a false factual proposition, and that is the mistake.

A delusion is a false belief about reality — “I am Napoleon Bonaparte”, “the government has implanted a chip in my head”, and so on. A trans woman is not usually claiming that she was born with ovaries, XX chromosomes or female reproductive anatomy. She can understand those facts perfectly well.

What differs is her internal recognition of herself as female. That is not the same kind of claim as “I am Napoleon”. It is not a mistaken belief about an external fact; it is a feature of how she experiences and understands herself.

The existence of that internal recognition is itself a fact. It is you who are denying an observed reality when you insist that this experience cannot genuinely exist.

You can insist that anatomy should determine the words “male” and “female” in every possible context, but that is a philosophical and linguistic position. It does not turn a person’s gender identity into a delusion or a mental illness.

You are still treating gender identity as though it were a false factual proposition, and that is the mistake.

It’s not a true factual proposition though, so how else can we treat it?

‘Gender’ is not actually a fact, it is a word that has had its previous meaning overwritten and appears to refer to either a subjective group of stereotypes, an internally experienced ’feeling’ of being the opposite sex, or some other subjective description depending on which trans activist you are talking to.

It is also used as a polite way of avoiding saying ‘sex’ - that meaning is tied to a fact but the trans activists prefer to ignore that.

A delusion is a false belief about reality. Yes. If a man believes he is a woman or female in any capacity, that is a false belief about reality.

Rollingpinofdoom · 10/09/2026 18:34

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:31

No, because the analogy does not map across.

There is no recognised medical or developmental phenomenon equivalent to gender dysphoria in which people consistently experience themselves as belonging to a different race from the one associated with their ancestry and social classification.

And race is not biologically organised in the same way as sex. Sex is a biological system tied to reproductive development, anatomy, hormones and chromosomes. Race is a much looser social classification built around ancestry, appearance and history, with boundaries that vary across societies.

So to say that a person can have a stable internal sex/gender identity that is incongruent with their anatomy, does not logically imply that you must also believe that someone can simply "identify into" another race. The comparison only works if you first assume that race and sex identity are the same kind of phenomenon, and there is no good reason to assume that.

You still haven’t explained how a male would know he “felt female”. What is he using to decide this?

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 10/09/2026 18:38

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:31

No, because the analogy does not map across.

There is no recognised medical or developmental phenomenon equivalent to gender dysphoria in which people consistently experience themselves as belonging to a different race from the one associated with their ancestry and social classification.

And race is not biologically organised in the same way as sex. Sex is a biological system tied to reproductive development, anatomy, hormones and chromosomes. Race is a much looser social classification built around ancestry, appearance and history, with boundaries that vary across societies.

So to say that a person can have a stable internal sex/gender identity that is incongruent with their anatomy, does not logically imply that you must also believe that someone can simply "identify into" another race. The comparison only works if you first assume that race and sex identity are the same kind of phenomenon, and there is no good reason to assume that.

There is no recognised medical or developmental phenomenon equivalent to gender dysphoria in which people consistently experience themselves as belonging to a different race from the one associated with their ancestry and social classification.

There was a trans activist memo issued some time ago that gender dysphoria is not a pre-requisite for expressing a trans identity.

The analogy therefore stands.

Another example is age. There are people that genuinely don’t look or feel that they match their chronological age. Should we allow them to self declare their age as they see fit?

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:39

Rollingpinofdoom · 10/09/2026 18:34

You still haven’t explained how a male would know he “felt female”. What is he using to decide this?

you are just asking the same questions over and over again without reading or thinking about the responses.

TheJuryIsOut · 10/09/2026 18:41

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:31

No, because the analogy does not map across.

There is no recognised medical or developmental phenomenon equivalent to gender dysphoria in which people consistently experience themselves as belonging to a different race from the one associated with their ancestry and social classification.

And race is not biologically organised in the same way as sex. Sex is a biological system tied to reproductive development, anatomy, hormones and chromosomes. Race is a much looser social classification built around ancestry, appearance and history, with boundaries that vary across societies.

So to say that a person can have a stable internal sex/gender identity that is incongruent with their anatomy, does not logically imply that you must also believe that someone can simply "identify into" another race. The comparison only works if you first assume that race and sex identity are the same kind of phenomenon, and there is no good reason to assume that.

There are several high profile (and therefore probably many more not high profile) cases of people who identify as a different race, some having surgery and physical alterations to affirm this.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 10/09/2026 18:45

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 16:58

No — because you are still assuming that recognising oneself as female must either be reducible to anatomy, or else it must depend on access to some universal “female feeling”. But those are not the only possibilities, and both models fail to account for what trans people actually report experiencing.

The existence of no single, universal way to “feel female” does not mean that a person cannot have a stable internal recognition of themselves as female. Nor does that recognition have to be based on either sexist stereotypes or physical anatomy.

You are treating the absence of a simple external frame of reference as proof that the experience cannot be real. But that conclusion does not follow at all. That's not how mental/ cognitive processes work. You can have a stable sense of something without possessing an external measuring stick for it. For example, you can recognise that a particular body part feels like “yours”, that a movement feels natural or alien, or that you are anxious, without comparing yourself against some universal template of how everyone else experiences those things.

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Ok, so you think there is a menaingful subjective experience of being "male" or "female" that rests outside the anatomy.

Fine.

But the body nevertheless exists.

The reality of the body and the consequences that it brings still exist, and are still entirely separate from whatever is being mentally recognised.

Other people still experience us in our embodied form.

So all you've actually done here is move a label from one thing - the body - to another - the experience of "recognition"

In order to justify Genderist demands with respect to how trans people should be seen and treated you also need to make the argument for why this mental recognition has to supercede the physical reality of sex. Until that leap is made, all you've really done is proposed a whimsical interesting sidetrack to existing ideas of personality.

As yet, you have not done this.

Indeed I do not think it can be done.

But I would certainly welcome any honest attempt to try, because that is sorely lacking to date.

Lacksie · 10/09/2026 18:45

TheJuryIsOut · 10/09/2026 18:41

There are several high profile (and therefore probably many more not high profile) cases of people who identify as a different race, some having surgery and physical alterations to affirm this.

There are more than eight billion people in the world. The fact that you can find a handful of individuals who say they identify as another race does not establish the existence of a comparable medical, developmental or population-level phenomenon.

There is no recognised body of evidence showing that “transracial identity” operates like transgender identity, and there is no reason to assume that race and sex should produce analogous forms of identity in the first place.

As stated - race and sex are very different kinds of categories. Sex is rooted in reproductive biology and involves anatomy, hormones, chromosomes and development. Racial categories are much more heavily shaped by ancestry, history, culture and changing social classification.

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