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Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

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FallenNight · 08/09/2026 10:48

On the plus side in her audience she also said repeatedly that Nigel Farage is not her cup of tea (well something like that using her own choice of descriptive words) asked if anyone was a Reform voter in the room, then gently encouraged anyone who disliked or disagreed with her views on reform and Farage to go home. So not all bad.

Sunbringer · 08/09/2026 10:46

I used to think she was hilarious… then I read her book. It’s basically just filth and acting like masturbating strange men in bushes as a favour is funny. Even though she was very young and is apparently a lesbian. Very strange woman.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 10:46

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 10:42

Are you aware that the lady in question was speaking to someone who was wearing traditional African clothing which no doubt prompted her question?

People can wear traditional African clothing in the UK too

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:45

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 10:42

Are you aware that the lady in question was speaking to someone who was wearing traditional African clothing which no doubt prompted her question?

And?

She asked a weird question. Was answered and refused to accept the answer thus tumbling into the same weird racial othering that MM engaged in.

But thanks for proving my point about ‘some’ people’s issue being not what was said but who said it.

Melisand · 08/09/2026 10:45

TheFairyCaravan · 08/09/2026 07:58

She’s being calling disabled people, like me, a cripple for years which is incredibly offensive and she knows it but doesn’t care. So if I want to call her a nasty old hag, I bloody well will.

So we should respond to someone being offensive by being offensive ourselves.
okaaaaay 😆😆😆🙄

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:43

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 10:41

Which bit is ‘ absolutely batshit’ ?

All of it. Although special mention for the mention of “sub-saharan Africa”.

And also the implication that an entire region is one country.

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 10:42

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:33

While I definitely think that is true for some there are people who have commented on MN on this issue who have expressed similarly problematic views regarding race. Some who in the other thread criticised MM while defending Lady Susan Hussey who engaged in identical behaviour. So it’s clear for some their objection to what she said is not what she said but rather her politics.

Are you aware that the lady in question was speaking to someone who was wearing traditional African clothing which no doubt prompted her question?

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 10:42

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 10:41

Which bit is ‘ absolutely batshit’ ?

I imagine it's bit where you claim there's only one genocide currently happening in the world

Melisand · 08/09/2026 10:41

TheFairyCaravan · 07/09/2026 23:55

She’s a nasty old hag. How she hasn’t been cancelled is beyond me.

Oh the irony! Check your own ageism and misogyny perhaps 😆🙄

Foolish1984 · 08/09/2026 10:41

Summer26woohoo · 08/09/2026 08:13

She's losing her marbles is my considered opinion.

Yes there are plenty of fully with it people in their 80's but there are plenty who aren't. She's losing what little filter she had, which I suspect is age related.

I can't get excited about what she said tbh, in the grand scheme of things there's much worse going on.

If course you can’t get excited about it if none of what she said applies to you!

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 10:41

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:39

This is absolutely batshit.

Which bit is ‘ absolutely batshit’ ?

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:39

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 09:21

Utter nonsense, people are having a go because she is a vile, disgusting woman and the only genocide going on is being inflicted on Christians in Sub Saharan Africa , but no one is marching for them!!!

This is absolutely batshit.

3peassuit · 08/09/2026 10:39

I was impressed with Andi Peters professionalism. He must have been shocked but his response was civil and classy (more than mine would have been), it made Miriam look rude and ignorant by comparison.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 10:37

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:34

Sometimes shock means you don’t have the right words in the moment so I think it’s unfair to criticise his response.

Absolutely, its like the freeze or flight response. And I think entertainment presenters are conditioned to always defuse a situation rather than confront it.

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:36

Livelovebehappy · 08/09/2026 08:46

Interesting to see how some on the left are defending her though. Must be difficult for them to process this when she has also been an advocate for a lot of left leaning ideologies. She probably just doesn’t care, like a lot of elderly people, who develop a ‘no filter’ mindset where anything that was previously hidden in their head just comes out.

Where have you seen people “on The Left” defending her?

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:34

CinnamonJellyBeans · 08/09/2026 07:39

A woman as old as her, who has written a book, has enough life experience and intelligence to know that the way she referred to the colour of Andy Peter's skin was grossly and wilfully offensive. The accent was also grossly offensive.

If I said that to someone, I'd rightly lose my job. There's no way you can explain away calling someone that unrepeatable term.

I don't think Andy Peters dealt with it well at all. If it is safe to do so, you should call out racism every time, terminate the conversation, or refuse to further engage with the person. He did none of those. It may well have been a surprise for him to have experienced overt racism on his own talk show, but as a seasoned presenter, he should have managed that better.

Sometimes shock means you don’t have the right words in the moment so I think it’s unfair to criticise his response.

Lurkingandlearning · 08/09/2026 10:34

PrettyLittleRose · 07/09/2026 22:40

Blimey, the woman needs to be stopped! Shock

How has she not been cancelled?

Every part of the media knows exactly what to expect from her. There is no point complaining about her as an individual because she is an arsehole and would get a thrill from her continued notoriety. It is the companies that keep inviting her to speak her rancid mind that should be challenged . They keep giving her airtime because they know people will watch, fascination with the horrible perhaps. Why aren’t people doing whatever was done a few years ago to cancel scummy celebrities?

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:33

Fast800goingforit · 08/09/2026 07:21

@CarbonArtist you only have to read the comments on the posts about her appearance on This Morning to see it's her racist behaviour followed by her tone deaf explanation where she's doubled down that are the issues.

While I definitely think that is true for some there are people who have commented on MN on this issue who have expressed similarly problematic views regarding race. Some who in the other thread criticised MM while defending Lady Susan Hussey who engaged in identical behaviour. So it’s clear for some their objection to what she said is not what she said but rather her politics.

Æthelred · 08/09/2026 10:26

Even in Saddam's Iraq, the elderly could speak their minds without fear - they just didn't do it on national TV.

This woman shouldn't be persecuted but she shouldn't be on TV.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 08/09/2026 10:26

tsmainsqueeze · 07/09/2026 23:38

She is utterly loathesome and I believe she knows exactly what trouble she creates and enjoys it.

I think her personal motto is there's no such thing as bad press. People love controversy especially the "say it as it is" people who also are pretty rude.

Honestly I am gutted by her, I loved her as an actress growing up in James and the giant peach, Harry Potter, Hilda etc.

She is nothing but offensive these days, and nothing like the characters she's portrayed which I guess is a testament to her acting but such a disappointment that she can't recognise that the people who loved her are the people who are now repulsed by her behaviour.

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:19

Satisfiedwithanapple · 08/09/2026 06:13

The thing I don’t quite understand is surely most people generally choose to avoid randomly offending other people for no reason at all? I guess the push towards free speech gives some the opportunity to show the world who they really are.

I think in their minds they just cannot fathom it as being offensive. It’s like the people who ask people “where are you from, no I mean where are you REALLY from”. No matter how often it’s explained why some take offence in it they just cannot get their head around it. Like trying to explain maths to a butterfly. Some people have a complete inability to put themselves in the shoes of another so assume if they are ok with it everybody else should be ok with it.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 10:19

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:14

I am actually genuinely horrified at this, possibly (sadly) unsurprised, but also VERY glad I missed it.

I find the posts here suggesting that MM weird race obsession is on account of her liberal politics. Plenty of conservatives / right-wing people are equally race obsessed. I don’t know why some people are pretending otherwise.

Edited

I don’t think it’s because of her liberal politics - it’s because she’s a nasty woman who seeks attention because she thinks that she’s an intellectual and that people find her shocking and charming in equal measure every time she uses the word ‘cunt’, something unspeakably racist or tells a sexually explicit anecdote on a talk show.

She is just a tedious woman and the sooner she is cancelled, the better.

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:14

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I am actually genuinely horrified at this, possibly (sadly) unsurprised, but also VERY glad I missed it.

I find the posts here suggesting that MM weird race obsession is on account of her liberal politics. Plenty of conservatives / right-wing people are equally race obsessed. I don’t know why some people are pretending otherwise.

hattie43 · 08/09/2026 10:07

MajorSamanthaCarter · 08/09/2026 09:42

Thoughtful and considered? I don't think that means what you think it means. Black women's bodies are not up for discussion anymore than white women's are. The thread that was referenced was full of racist, ignorant stereotypes that anyone with half a brain would speak out against not try to defend.

That’s nothing to do with the point I’m making .

emuloc · 08/09/2026 09:42

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