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"How do black people feel? How do brown people feel? How do cripples feel? How do fat people feel?"

316 replies

Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters

OP posts:
HollyhocksandPeons · 08/09/2026 11:47

UnctuousUnicorns · 07/09/2026 22:48

Cripple here. 👋 🧑‍🦽 More context needed, OP. Though it makes me wonder how a fat Jewess might feel. 🤔

How is it offensive? She herself says she is fat and she is a Jewess. How is this offensive?

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 11:43

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 09:13

People only care because she’s “left” so she’s not supposed to say these things. Loads of older disabled people refer to themselves as cripples, so it’s no surprise she does as well.

Roy Chubby Brown usually fills seaside theatres - yes he is far, far worse and people pay to spend the evening hearing it. Jim Davidson is similar and plays to a similar crowd. But yes they are “on the right” so that’s just expected - right?

Never in my entire life, have I heard someone who is disabled/has a disability call themselves a cripple .. Indeed every person with a disability I know actively HATES this word.

Just because YOU use it even though you are disabled, that does not give you the right to use it carte blanche. It offends a LOT of people.

My friend was diagnosed with a debilitating chronic illness 2 years ago, and a few months after she was diagnosed - when she was coming into the house from the outside struggling a bit with the 3 steps up to the back door, her husband said 'come on you old cripple.' She was like Shock then she burst into tears. He was mortified that he'd upset her, but he shouldn't have been surprised. it was a vile thing to say. He has never said it since.

And no, NO-ONE is ok if Chubby Brown or Jim Davidson says it too. You have outed yourself on the kind of people you are a fan of though. Go figure!

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lincolnsosig · 08/09/2026 11:42

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 00:05

She thinks that if she uses the word cunt enough on the telly, people will think she’s wonderfully eccentric.

I was really quite shocked about the Andy Peters thing. To say what she said and then to double down should result in her being completely cancelled.

Vile woman.

It’s worked so far, she has a huge amount of fans who absolutely love her and will hear no wrong. Simply because she says ‘cunt’ as if it makes her special, rather than vulgar. Very strange people.

JeanSimmons · 08/09/2026 11:39

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 11:39

The Gazan genocide.

Ok.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 11:39

JeanSimmons · 08/09/2026 11:35

What genocide?

The Gazan genocide.

JHound · 08/09/2026 11:37

Happysnappydays · 08/09/2026 11:14

She's been in a Harry Potter movie, James and the Giant Peach, Babe, Blackadder. Loads of things.

I have only seen the first Harry Potter movie and cannot recall if she was in it. Never seen the other things you mentioned.

JeanSimmons · 08/09/2026 11:35

Anyahyacinth · 07/09/2026 23:50

I have huge respect for her speaking up about the genocide and have seen people saying it was a great show tonight…no mention of any offence caused.

What genocide?

JHound · 08/09/2026 11:35

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 10:55

I am well aware of the African continent, probably far more than you and it is NIGERIA , which is a sub Saharan African country , that is suffering a genocide of its Christian population

So why not just say “Nigeria”?

Although that still does not change that your entire post was batshit and inaccurate. Off topic too.

UnctuousUnicorns · 08/09/2026 11:23

Muffsies · 08/09/2026 11:08

As my crippled friend often says, "fuck the disabled.. please.. ?"

No one ever asks how the gingers feel.

I'll ask my red haired 17 year old DD, shall I? 🙂

Just don't anyone try to call me "differently abled". Then I will tell them to take their patronising, minimising bullshit and stick it where the sun don't shine. 💩

Happysnappydays · 08/09/2026 11:22

I know it's very strange. Why the need to be on so many shows? (As herself, not acting).

FallenNight · 08/09/2026 11:20

Happysnappydays · 08/09/2026 11:14

She's been in a Harry Potter movie, James and the Giant Peach, Babe, Blackadder. Loads of things.

Lots of Stage productions as well I believe.

In actual fact she is an accomplished actress.

She seems to be actively destroying her own reputation and will be remembered for her vulgar chat show outbursts rather than the huge catalogue of work covering 60 odd years.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 11:17

Muffsies · 08/09/2026 11:08

As my crippled friend often says, "fuck the disabled.. please.. ?"

No one ever asks how the gingers feel.

True that. My best friend is ginger.

Everyone loves ginger cats though 🐈

Happysnappydays · 08/09/2026 11:14

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:53

I don’t know how she has managed to escape my attention. I don’t think I have ever watched her in anything, never read a book of hers, never seen a full interview with her in it.

And for that, I am thankful.

She's been in a Harry Potter movie, James and the Giant Peach, Babe, Blackadder. Loads of things.

Muffsies · 08/09/2026 11:08

UnctuousUnicorns · 07/09/2026 22:48

Cripple here. 👋 🧑‍🦽 More context needed, OP. Though it makes me wonder how a fat Jewess might feel. 🤔

As my crippled friend often says, "fuck the disabled.. please.. ?"

No one ever asks how the gingers feel.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 11:03

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 10:55

I am well aware of the African continent, probably far more than you and it is NIGERIA , which is a sub Saharan African country , that is suffering a genocide of its Christian population

There are 3 genocides which spring to mind and which are happening right now, but given that a year ago there were up to 20 genocides being reported, I imagine I'm missing quite a few.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 08/09/2026 11:01

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WTF???? I'm so sorry you were subjected to that, that's atrocious.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 10:59

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 10:52

That’s a cheap way of trying to be funny though. Sniping at Farage is hardly revolutionary. Most people do it because he’s utter scum.

I do think Miriam attempts to engage in real debate and having watch a documentary she did where she travelled across the US, I think she's genuinely interested in different points of view. I also admire her ability to be as forthright as she is, and she has spoken out against the Gazian genocide several times.

I can see why she's become an attractive figure for TV execs to bring on screen but in doing so there's an inherent condescension. They see her shocking statements and stories as funny coming from a 'fat little old woman' and invite us to laugh at her, in the way we do Catherine Tate's Nan.

What people are now seeing is that condescension can't hide the very real racism in her statements, whether that's unconscious or not, and some could argue execs have a duty of care to those of minority groups, such as Andi Peters, not to put them at risk of being on the receiving end of an -ism on air.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 10:58

Sunbringer · 08/09/2026 10:46

I used to think she was hilarious… then I read her book. It’s basically just filth and acting like masturbating strange men in bushes as a favour is funny. Even though she was very young and is apparently a lesbian. Very strange woman.

I think most of what she says is probably made up anyway, in a lame attempt to seem interesting and edgy

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 10:55

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:43

All of it. Although special mention for the mention of “sub-saharan Africa”.

And also the implication that an entire region is one country.

I am well aware of the African continent, probably far more than you and it is NIGERIA , which is a sub Saharan African country , that is suffering a genocide of its Christian population

Fast800goingforit · 08/09/2026 10:54

She is not losing her marbles. It's all part of her revolting act. She knew she could not be crude and make sexual remarks on a daytime TV programme so decided to take the piss out of the presenters in a really offensive way, dressing it up as something humourous instead.

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:53

Sunbringer · 08/09/2026 10:46

I used to think she was hilarious… then I read her book. It’s basically just filth and acting like masturbating strange men in bushes as a favour is funny. Even though she was very young and is apparently a lesbian. Very strange woman.

I don’t know how she has managed to escape my attention. I don’t think I have ever watched her in anything, never read a book of hers, never seen a full interview with her in it.

And for that, I am thankful.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 10:52

Melisand · 08/09/2026 10:45

So we should respond to someone being offensive by being offensive ourselves.
okaaaaay 😆😆😆🙄

Actually yes. I have no issue with insulting a nasty bigot

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 10:52

Melisand · 08/09/2026 10:45

So we should respond to someone being offensive by being offensive ourselves.
okaaaaay 😆😆😆🙄

You're right, and I agree. I do have sympathy for disabled people who have spent years on the receiving end of slurs such as "cripple", however.

Especially right now when they're being subjected to increasing ableist discourse in politics and media - not limited to the current euthanasia bill and anti-disabled benefits bashing.

Unfortunately, for many disabled people what appears to others to be just words and healthy debate directly relates to the deaths of people with disabilities across the country.

JHound · 08/09/2026 10:52

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 10:46

People can wear traditional African clothing in the UK too

And let’s be honest - if that was a white woman in traditional clothing from an African country she would not have kept badgering her to know “where are you REALLY from”.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 10:52

FallenNight · 08/09/2026 10:48

On the plus side in her audience she also said repeatedly that Nigel Farage is not her cup of tea (well something like that using her own choice of descriptive words) asked if anyone was a Reform voter in the room, then gently encouraged anyone who disliked or disagreed with her views on reform and Farage to go home. So not all bad.

That’s a cheap way of trying to be funny though. Sniping at Farage is hardly revolutionary. Most people do it because he’s utter scum.