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"How do black people feel? How do brown people feel? How do cripples feel? How do fat people feel?"

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Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

OMG Miriam Margolyes Andi Peters | Mumsnet

I've got an annual leave day today and am spending the morning shamelessly on the sofa watching daytime TV with cups of tea and biscuits after an exha...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters

OP posts:
Lomonald · 08/09/2026 12:29

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 12:20

Of course you wouldn't use it at work - it's a self-describing label that some disabled people are re-claiming for themselves, because it is offensive. It's not a politically correct term to use.

Minoritised groups often reclaim offensive words to take back power. This has a long history.

Or maybe you have just reclaimed it for yourself ! I agree groups of people might reclaim words for each other amongst their peers etc etc. That doesn't mean it is for general use or discussion. If Miriam Margolyes personally referred to me as a "cripple" to try and relate she would get an earful, i am in a group for women with my specific disability we are not all calling each other cripples.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 08/09/2026 12:29

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 12:20

Of course you wouldn't use it at work - it's a self-describing label that some disabled people are re-claiming for themselves, because it is offensive. It's not a politically correct term to use.

Minoritised groups often reclaim offensive words to take back power. This has a long history.

Julie Burchill describes herself as a cripple.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 08/09/2026 12:27

Looks like she's keeping the spirit of Liddlr alive.

Marellain · 08/09/2026 12:22

Æthelred · 08/09/2026 10:26

Even in Saddam's Iraq, the elderly could speak their minds without fear - they just didn't do it on national TV.

This woman shouldn't be persecuted but she shouldn't be on TV.

I am amazed anyone cares what she’s saying, tbf. Why are y’all so invested in Miriam margolyes all of a sudden?!?!

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 12:20

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 12:04

We can all play 'the link' game @HotGrapefruit except mine holds a lot more weight and credibility than yours.

Guidelines from the Government that state cripple is a VERY derogatory term to describe someone disabled.

I really hope you don't have a job because you will get the sack if you carry on using that word because YOU are not offended by it.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/inclusive-communication/inclusive-language-words-to-use-and-avoid-when-writing-about-disability

Of course you wouldn't use it at work - it's a self-describing label that some disabled people are re-claiming for themselves, because it is offensive. It's not a politically correct term to use.

Minoritised groups often reclaim offensive words to take back power. This has a long history.

MajorSamanthaCarter · 08/09/2026 12:20

Magicpaintbrush · 08/09/2026 12:16

I knew she was batshit when I watched her Australia programme and she ate a whole raw onion for breakfast the way you would eat an apple - apparently a regular habit. The breath!!!

I have acid reflux just thinking about it!

Lomonald · 08/09/2026 12:19

Magicpaintbrush · 08/09/2026 12:16

I knew she was batshit when I watched her Australia programme and she ate a whole raw onion for breakfast the way you would eat an apple - apparently a regular habit. The breath!!!

Yes she eats onions like apples she was on something where she was in Japan with other elderly celebs and she was doing it then, I am sure she is just obnoxious for the attention and thrill !

Magicpaintbrush · 08/09/2026 12:16

I knew she was batshit when I watched her Australia programme and she ate a whole raw onion for breakfast the way you would eat an apple - apparently a regular habit. The breath!!!

Magicpaintbrush · 08/09/2026 12:15

She knows exactly what she is doing. She sets out to shock because it amuses her. Programmes keep bringing her on precisely because they know she's a loose canon and she is a talking point. I don't think she could be cancelled, she would just keep popping up everywhere. I don't think she would give a shit even if she was.

ginasevern · 08/09/2026 12:13

@Gloriia "For some reason whilst yes many of us are appalled by her offensive crap she seems to get away it because she's a fat, woke leftie."

She's very far from "woke"!

CherryKerry · 08/09/2026 12:11

She reminds me of my MIL at that age which in hindsight was the beginnings of mixed dementia removing her filter. E g making a loud comment in a cafe that "people like that shouldn't be in here" about a well known lovely local lad with learning difficulties who tended to be a bit noisy.

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 12:04

We can all play 'the link' game @HotGrapefruit except mine holds a lot more weight and credibility than yours.

Guidelines from the Government that state cripple is a VERY derogatory term to describe someone disabled.

I really hope you don't have a job because you will get the sack if you carry on using that word because YOU are not offended by it.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/inclusive-communication/inclusive-language-words-to-use-and-avoid-when-writing-about-disability

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 12:03

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I grew up in the area and being assaulted by travelling celebs like these was part of the summer work for myself and lots of teenage girls at the time. I think enough said on that point?

PansyZer · 08/09/2026 12:00

Gloriia · 08/09/2026 08:08

No it's because she asked a black man 'what are you??' and then went on to dig a deeper hole with more offensive langauge.

And TOLD him "Well, you’re a mix, aren’t you? So you’ve got a Black daddy and a white mummy.”

TOLD him, live on air, the ethnicities/races of his parents.

That she was wrong about anyway!

Absolutely disgraceful excuse for a human being, and I'm glad it's out there now. People know what she is.

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 12:00

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HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 11:58

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 11:57

Nope. Not buying it. No-one I know thinks that word (cripple) is OK when describing someone who is disabled. Keep rooting for tenuous links to 'prove your point' though @HotGrapefruit (Thinking you have won the argument with a Wikipedia link! LMFAO! 😂)

I also stand by what I say, you don't get to tell other people they are not allowed to be offended by it. I think it's a horrible word to call someone who is disabled. You don't get to tell me I am wrong.

Not shocked to hear you are a fangirl of Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown though.

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Edited

I'm not remotely 'a fan' of Brown or Davidson, but I have certainly followed their careers as I am fascinated by their popularity (as, I think, we all should be).

WhatHappenedToYourFurnitureCuz · 08/09/2026 11:58

Stop giving this twat the attention she craves.

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 11:57

PansyZer · 08/09/2026 11:56

I must say it's quite rewarding to see her getting her just desserts finally, publicly. Instead of being able to continue trading on the old, tired 'I'm an old woman so when I swear and say shocking things people must love me for it!'. I'm glad her racism is showing while she's still around to experience the backlash.

I do wonder if Miriam is on this thread actually. Wink

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 11:57

Nope. Not buying it. No-one I know thinks that word (cripple) is OK when describing someone who is disabled. Keep rooting for tenuous links to 'prove your point' though @HotGrapefruit (Thinking you have won the argument with a Wikipedia link! LMFAO! 😂)

I also stand by what I say, you don't get to tell other people they are not allowed to be offended by it. I think it's a horrible word to call someone who is disabled. You don't get to tell me I am wrong.

Not shocked to hear you are a fangirl of Jim Davidson and Chubby Brown though.

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CarbootJunction · 08/09/2026 11:57

Why is anyone giving that woman a moment's thought?

She's promoting her book, that's all with possibly a bit of dementia thrown in for good measure.

PansyZer · 08/09/2026 11:56

I must say it's quite rewarding to see her getting her just desserts finally, publicly. Instead of being able to continue trading on the old, tired 'I'm an old woman so when I swear and say shocking things people must love me for it!'. I'm glad her racism is showing while she's still around to experience the backlash.

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 11:53

Here you go @PrettyLittleRose : Even Wikipedia covers the rise of 'crip theory' and disabled people reclaiming the word: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crip_(disability_term)

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 11:51

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 11:43

Never in my entire life, have I heard someone who is disabled/has a disability call themselves a cripple .. Indeed every person with a disability I know actively HATES this word.

Just because YOU use it even though you are disabled, that does not give you the right to use it carte blanche. It offends a LOT of people.

My friend was diagnosed with a debilitating chronic illness 2 years ago, and a few months after she was diagnosed - when she was coming into the house from the outside struggling a bit with the 3 steps up to the back door, her husband said 'come on you old cripple.' She was like Shock then she burst into tears. He was mortified that he'd upset her, but he shouldn't have been surprised. it was a vile thing to say. He has never said it since.

And no, NO-ONE is ok if Chubby Brown or Jim Davidson says it too. You have outed yourself on the kind of people you are a fan of though. Go figure!

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Edited

I've heard a LOT of people who are disabled refer to themselves as cripples or their walking sticks as their 'crip sticks'. But you probably haven't, if you are not disabled yourself.

> And no, NO-ONE is ok if Chubby Brown or Jim Davidson says it too.

Well, they play to sold-out venues every summer, so apparently lots of people are very okay with it, and a lot, lot worse. This is a perfect summary: https://www.vice.com/da/article/roy-chubby-brown-gig-133/

I Was the Only Brown Person at Racist Roy 'Chubby' Brown's Gig

I wanted to see whether there was more to the UK's most controversial comedian than an old racist man making old racist jokes.

https://www.vice.com/da/article/roy-chubby-brown-gig-133/

supersop60 · 08/09/2026 11:50

UnctuousUnicorns · 07/09/2026 22:48

Cripple here. 👋 🧑‍🦽 More context needed, OP. Though it makes me wonder how a fat Jewess might feel. 🤔

Fat, invalid, lesbian Jewess.

Her filter has broken due to lack of use.

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 11:49

Happysnappydays · 08/09/2026 11:14

She's been in a Harry Potter movie, James and the Giant Peach, Babe, Blackadder. Loads of things.

Romeo & Juliet too - with Leo.

Not seen her in anything decent or credible for about 15-20 years though. Just on chat shows and the like, saying 'cunt' a lot, trying to be really radical, and presenting as quirky and eccentric. All she is a tedious obnoxious, rude woman who has no place on any screens anymore.