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Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters

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Lomonald · 08/09/2026 18:59

pomegranatesee · 08/09/2026 18:46

She's always been like this. She got a free pass for years because the wankpuffin brigade think that a little old lady swearing is terribly naughty and funny and so haven't actually paid attention to what she actually says.

wankpuffin brigade i have no idea who they are but 😂😂

thefourthbeatle · 08/09/2026 18:56

Temptree · 07/09/2026 23:09

Well the context is that whilst on live daytime TV last week she was blatantly racist towards Andi Peters on several counts, along with impersonating his co-host Christine Lampard's NI accent to her face in a mocking way. And because of the backlash from the offence she has caused, she has now defended herself by using yet more offensive and discriminatory language to describe people who she apparently feels need to be othered.

I fail to see how Margolyes' language in the live broadcast exhibited racial prejudice towards Andrew Peters. Tactless to make personal remarks in the situation, yes, but remarking that black people have a variety of shades of skin is simply a factual observation. I have many friends - also family - who are black, and the subject occurs in conversation with regularity; predominantly in assessing from what region of Africa a particular person is likely to originate. Conversations not restricted to within black circles, I might add. The subject is very interesting.

That said, Margolyes' use of the colonial-era term "high yellow" was crass, as were her later comments attempting to extenuate the original perceived offence. She is an insensitive bighead (and crashing bore), at worst, and it was this and this alone that was the cause of any unease experienced by Andrew Peters.

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 18:47

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 18:44

Hilarious. You are entitled to your opinion, thankfully it doesn't hold that it is factual.

Calling war a genocide isn't factual either.

pomegranatesee · 08/09/2026 18:46

She's always been like this. She got a free pass for years because the wankpuffin brigade think that a little old lady swearing is terribly naughty and funny and so haven't actually paid attention to what she actually says.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 18:44

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 18:43

Haha. The UN and its branch of covert participants in 7/10. Please. Corrupt as fuck.

Hilarious. You are entitled to your opinion, thankfully it doesn't hold that it is factual.

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 18:43

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 18:41

The UN disagree

Haha. The UN and its branch of covert participants in 7/10. Please. Corrupt as fuck.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 18:41

...as do I.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 18:41

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 18:27

There isn't a genocide and it most certainly is a left wing viewpoint that there is one.

The UN disagree

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 18:27

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 17:27

I think there's some blindness among the right when it comes to things like this - assuming the left have suddenly gone silent or being hypocritical etc. I've seen people I know to be either side of the political spectrum condemn her ableist and her racist comments.

Condemning the genocide in gaza also isn't a left vs right issue.

You don't need to be one or the other to condemn comments like those she had made and its weird when people try to make a left v right thing.

There isn't a genocide and it most certainly is a left wing viewpoint that there is one.

ShutupLwren · 08/09/2026 18:18

Andi peters should be on telly more, especially if he brings ed the duck with him.

Ponoka7 · 08/09/2026 18:01

Lomonald · 08/09/2026 12:58

Miriam was on TV to talk about her book not interrogate the hosts about "what they are" out of the blue then question their race as if she knew better. Showing interest in people is fine, if it is in context, interrupting someone trying to do their job so you can go off on a racist inappeopriate tangent isn't fine.

Edited

I'm not talking about the AP incident, but the new criticism.

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 17:50

JHound · 08/09/2026 17:34

I am not sure that sharing an ethnicity / religion with somebody requires you to agree with them on all matters.

Fair point.

JHound · 08/09/2026 17:34

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 17:09

Takes a special kind of somebody to abandon their own in the face of adversity. Guess she's mates with Polanski. Popularity and money is worth more I guess.

I am not sure that sharing an ethnicity / religion with somebody requires you to agree with them on all matters.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 17:27

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 16:28

The left are very vocal when they think it's white men dishing it out. Put 300 men in black attire and they will be called racist. Put a woman on a TV programme actually being racist and Nada, zilch, crickets. That's the racist part dealt with. The dig at 'cripples'. Hmm...normally there are (rightly) complaints about people being ableist. Where are they now?

I think there's some blindness among the right when it comes to things like this - assuming the left have suddenly gone silent or being hypocritical etc. I've seen people I know to be either side of the political spectrum condemn her ableist and her racist comments.

Condemning the genocide in gaza also isn't a left vs right issue.

You don't need to be one or the other to condemn comments like those she had made and its weird when people try to make a left v right thing.

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 17:09

YourAmplePlumPoster · 08/09/2026 16:54

The left loved her anti Israel stance especially as she's Jewish. It's the usual, see, even Jews condemn Israel but I see they're now deserting her in droves.

Takes a special kind of somebody to abandon their own in the face of adversity. Guess she's mates with Polanski. Popularity and money is worth more I guess.

JHound · 08/09/2026 16:58

MrsSlocombesCat · 08/09/2026 13:22

I was under the impression that Miriam had mimicked Christine's accent but it was Andi. But I don't think she was being racist at all. She was just clumsy, after all she's pretty old and believe me I have older friends who would never say that everyone is welcome! Even if she did add the footnote that there were a few who wouldn't be. High yella may be considered to be offensive now but originally it was intended as a statement that you were of high status. She just sounded genuinely interested to me, albeit without a filter.

Good Lord. “High Yella” has been offensive for years and it has never meant somebody was high status. It described a skin tone of people who had higher status than their darker skinned brethren which is all rooted in the same racism.

And what she did and what she said was clearly racist.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 08/09/2026 16:54

The left loved her anti Israel stance especially as she's Jewish. It's the usual, see, even Jews condemn Israel but I see they're now deserting her in droves.

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 16:34

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 16:28

The left are very vocal when they think it's white men dishing it out. Put 300 men in black attire and they will be called racist. Put a woman on a TV programme actually being racist and Nada, zilch, crickets. That's the racist part dealt with. The dig at 'cripples'. Hmm...normally there are (rightly) complaints about people being ableist. Where are they now?

Yep! 👏

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 16:28

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 16:23

Exactly. It's the left who cheer her on, more than the right/right leaning, and centric. I am centric, and neither right nor left, and I find her repugnant, I know several right leaning people who think she is disgusting. None of them cheer her on. A few left leaning people I know think she's hilarious. Most do think she is awful though - left and right...

The left are very vocal when they think it's white men dishing it out. Put 300 men in black attire and they will be called racist. Put a woman on a TV programme actually being racist and Nada, zilch, crickets. That's the racist part dealt with. The dig at 'cripples'. Hmm...normally there are (rightly) complaints about people being ableist. Where are they now?

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 16:23

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 16:15

Once again, what have the embarrassingly named flag shaggers got to do with this? Why aren't you having a go at the silent lot who normally condemn this bigoted behaviour? If you think right wingers are behind this racist, you are deluded.

Exactly. It's the left who cheer her on, more than the right/right leaning, and centric. I am centric, and neither right nor left, and I find her repugnant, I know several right leaning people who think she is disgusting. None of them cheer her on. A few left leaning people I know think she's hilarious. Most do think she is awful though - left and right...

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 16:15

AnswerIsNo · 08/09/2026 14:03

and the problem is that racists will cos-play as giving her the benefit of the doubt and say she’s curious not offensive, while thinking they are being subliminally smart in their messaging

mainly the flag-shaggers, along with the subterfuge posters from the US and Russia - cos-playing as flag shaggers

Once again, what have the embarrassingly named flag shaggers got to do with this? Why aren't you having a go at the silent lot who normally condemn this bigoted behaviour? If you think right wingers are behind this racist, you are deluded.

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 16:11

lincolnsosig · 08/09/2026 15:28

Yes because every older person who is a nasty cunt (to use her own style of language) must have dementia.

She has always been like this btw, it’s not some sudden personality change. She is just nasty.

This. ^ I can't figure out of @Sallysredshoes is taking the pee or not with that comment/post!

PrettyLittleRose · 08/09/2026 16:10

I have a feeling she won't be asked onto any more chat shows. Wink

lincolnsosig · 08/09/2026 15:28

Sallysredshoes · 08/09/2026 13:49

Ah ,bless her
Could be starting of dementia..she's at that age for it
I can't remember who she is ,or why she's on TV
Cripple...is a word that has not been used for for many years ..she absolutely must know this ...or dementia.. hopefully her nearest and dearest will get her a doctor's appointment

Yes because every older person who is a nasty cunt (to use her own style of language) must have dementia.

She has always been like this btw, it’s not some sudden personality change. She is just nasty.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 14:39

AnswerIsNo · 08/09/2026 14:03

and the problem is that racists will cos-play as giving her the benefit of the doubt and say she’s curious not offensive, while thinking they are being subliminally smart in their messaging

mainly the flag-shaggers, along with the subterfuge posters from the US and Russia - cos-playing as flag shaggers

Exactly, it’s kind of ironic that she claims to hate Reform when she has that huge racist streak. Perhaps she is trying to get both sides to like her.