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316 replies

Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

OMG Miriam Margolyes Andi Peters | Mumsnet

I've got an annual leave day today and am spending the morning shamelessly on the sofa watching daytime TV with cups of tea and biscuits after an exha...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters

OP posts:
alexdgr8 · 09/09/2026 15:21

Seems to be a Marmite figure on GN.
Strong feelings pro and con.
Quite an interesting read.
Many admired her acting but went off her due to filthy anecdotes.

alexdgr8 · 09/09/2026 15:18

Have just read a thread on GN by someone who to see MM on stage with Ed Byrne.
Started by a poster called Cossy.
Who really enjoyed MM and found her kind humane and funny.
Apparently the tv business was because MM had been strictly told not to be contentious and that made her nervous and her mouth ran away with her...? ??
I don't know what to think.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 10:01

Lomonald · 09/09/2026 09:06

Christine Lampard, MM also randomly imitated her Irish accent!

She couldn't really say anything either.

Edited

Wait - she imitated her accent? It gets worse.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 10:00

Lomonald · 09/09/2026 09:06

Christine Lampard, MM also randomly imitated her Irish accent!

She couldn't really say anything either.

Edited

Ah thanks. Went off her after I saw her sneery face interviewing Giovanni Pernice from Strictly. So she's a coward.

Lomonald · 09/09/2026 09:06

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:36

Who was his Co host?

Christine Lampard, MM also randomly imitated her Irish accent!

She couldn't really say anything either.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:36

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 08:33

And he is far too much of a professional and far too well mannered to say anything.

Very disappointed, and what about his co host, she has said nothing I take it?

Who was his Co host?

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 08:33

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:31

That's a good point. Where are these Liberal luvvies who are normally vocal when it comes to the right. I can't see them calling for MM to be cancelled. Andi is left to paddle his own canoe on this one.

And he is far too much of a professional and far too well mannered to say anything.

Very disappointed, and what about his co host, she has said nothing I take it?

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:31

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 08:24

Well thats true, you would think there would be more support for Andi Peters from his colleagues and media types

Where are they?

That's a good point. Where are these Liberal luvvies who are normally vocal when it comes to the right. I can't see them calling for MM to be cancelled. Andi is left to paddle his own canoe on this one.

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 08:24

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:23

The silence of condemnation is quite deafening.

Well thats true, you would think there would be more support for Andi Peters from his colleagues and media types

Where are they?

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:23

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 08:22

Has anyone not condemmed her?

Apart from the odd poster on a chat forum, has anyone in the media or celeb world say 'go Miriam, you were completely right'??

The silence of condemnation is quite deafening.

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 08:22

AInightingale · 09/09/2026 07:58

Wasn't one of Harry and Meghan's allegations that a member of the Royal Family asked insensitive questions about the likely colour of their child when she was pregnant? Yes, people can be rude and crass this way, but at the time that story broke, there was a lot of sympathy for H&M and condemnation of the unnamed royal - why not of MM in this case? The hypocrisy of the left is sickening.

Has anyone not condemmed her?

Apart from the odd poster on a chat forum, has anyone in the media or celeb world say 'go Miriam, you were completely right'??

Anarchy99 · 09/09/2026 08:21

LivingTheDreamish · 09/09/2026 06:04

I've also started wondering if it is dementia. She was always course and inappropriate, but it used to be (sort of) funny. She never used to be racist but lately she is always spouting something vile. I hope the people near her (agent, family, etc.) will take appropriate steps because she really shouldn't have a public platform any more.

I doubt if. She just thinks she can get away with it

AInightingale · 09/09/2026 07:58

Wasn't one of Harry and Meghan's allegations that a member of the Royal Family asked insensitive questions about the likely colour of their child when she was pregnant? Yes, people can be rude and crass this way, but at the time that story broke, there was a lot of sympathy for H&M and condemnation of the unnamed royal - why not of MM in this case? The hypocrisy of the left is sickening.

LivingTheDreamish · 09/09/2026 06:04

I've also started wondering if it is dementia. She was always course and inappropriate, but it used to be (sort of) funny. She never used to be racist but lately she is always spouting something vile. I hope the people near her (agent, family, etc.) will take appropriate steps because she really shouldn't have a public platform any more.

thefourthbeatle · 09/09/2026 04:07

update from Margolyes 🤔:

x.com/intel_lady/status/2097346760926462331/video/1?s=46

thefourthbeatle · 09/09/2026 01:42

Temptree · 08/09/2026 23:16

Oh come on, yes she is.
How can you say that?

let's agree to disagree 🤷🏾‍♀️🕊️🙏

thefourthbeatle · 09/09/2026 01:41

Temptree · 08/09/2026 23:26

I couldn't work out how to answer you succinctly due to not knowing where on earth to begin with your post.
So I put a description of you in to Gemini AI and here's what it says about you:
https://share.gemini.google/NR5ZeADhG7qa

it seems that the 'command' you provided to this 'Gemini' was "What does it mean if someone can't or won't acknowledge racism" leading to the pointless word salad provided by the 'A.I. robot'? hardly a neutral inquiry.

i suggest that - rather than giving your own interpretation of my earlier reply to the thread to 'Gemini' - you run my original comments (with suitable background info.) by the 'robot'. for better or worse the results might be interesting; however the method you have used unfortunately failed to get the best of out of the 'A.I.' 🕊️

ToWhitToWhoo · 09/09/2026 01:29

I'm starting to wonder if she's developing dementia. She's always been a bit unfiltered, but this is truly extreme.

cabus · 08/09/2026 23:50

I've never understood the 'national treasure' status she enjoyed.

She's repulsive, always shudder and turn over when she's on.

Temptree · 08/09/2026 23:26

thefourthbeatle · 08/09/2026 18:56

I fail to see how Margolyes' language in the live broadcast exhibited racial prejudice towards Andrew Peters. Tactless to make personal remarks in the situation, yes, but remarking that black people have a variety of shades of skin is simply a factual observation. I have many friends - also family - who are black, and the subject occurs in conversation with regularity; predominantly in assessing from what region of Africa a particular person is likely to originate. Conversations not restricted to within black circles, I might add. The subject is very interesting.

That said, Margolyes' use of the colonial-era term "high yellow" was crass, as were her later comments attempting to extenuate the original perceived offence. She is an insensitive bighead (and crashing bore), at worst, and it was this and this alone that was the cause of any unease experienced by Andrew Peters.

I couldn't work out how to answer you succinctly due to not knowing where on earth to begin with your post.
So I put a description of you in to Gemini AI and here's what it says about you:
https://share.gemini.google/NR5ZeADhG7qa

‎Gemini - direct access to Google AI

Created with Gemini

https://gemini.google.com/share/18a7da9c9c9b?skid=b4f884ba-5450-4b01-b42f-9be44bad2432

OP posts:
AquamarinePearlGold · 08/09/2026 23:17

Temptree · 08/09/2026 23:14

Maybe she has.
Maybe she hasn't.
Either way, in my mind:
Dementia + being a blatant racist = she needs to be removed from TV and public appearances.
No Dementia + being a blatant racist = she needs to be removed from TV and public appearances.
The conclusion is the same.

Agreed.

Temptree · 08/09/2026 23:16

thefourthbeatle · 08/09/2026 22:47

she is ad-libbing characters she is inventing off-the-cuff. just watched the original clip again. she's an annoying bore who thinks she is displaying effortless acting skills, that's it. i can't stand her, but she is not exhibiting racial prejudice.

Oh come on, yes she is.
How can you say that?

OP posts:
Temptree · 08/09/2026 23:14

AquamarinePearlGold · 08/09/2026 22:11

Maybe she has dementia.

Maybe she has.
Maybe she hasn't.
Either way, in my mind:
Dementia + being a blatant racist = she needs to be removed from TV and public appearances.
No Dementia + being a blatant racist = she needs to be removed from TV and public appearances.
The conclusion is the same.

OP posts:
likelysuspect · 08/09/2026 23:01

HopeSpringingHigh · 08/09/2026 22:49

Does anyone else think it was partly the person who hired her fault? As in shes always been rather forthright shall we say , or rude and that as an 85 year old she probably has even less of a filter.

I suppose I despair modern life . Everything is done for the drama and attention and talking about people at others expense.
In her own way shes quite vulnerable at her age and then of course you have victims of racism or people who have been hurt or offended .

No its her fault of course, She is in charge of what comes out her mouth.

God people are constantly being excused for things they do

She said it, she needs to own it, which she appears (whether people like it or not) to be doing and not apologising.

Im also intrigued by the post above suggesting that she's sort of veering in and out of characters and presentation. I swear she might be PD now that I think about it more

Is it above or in the other thread that soneone posted a Guardian article about her talking about a musician in the 60s who she says died from assisted suicide? Bizarre story, very strange, she didnt even know the woman by all accounts? Makes no sense.

KnickerlessParsons · 08/09/2026 22:56

UnctuousUnicorns · 07/09/2026 22:48

Cripple here. 👋 🧑‍🦽 More context needed, OP. Though it makes me wonder how a fat Jewess might feel. 🤔

A fat, lesbian Jewess.