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316 replies

Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

OMG Miriam Margolyes Andi Peters | Mumsnet

I've got an annual leave day today and am spending the morning shamelessly on the sofa watching daytime TV with cups of tea and biscuits after an exha...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters

OP posts:
likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 18:05

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 17:53

I caught what she said. What shocked me more is that she thought Andy Peters had a white parent. CLEARLY the woman doesnt know what she is talking about and the conversation should of been shut down at that point.

Is that your biggest concern?

He could well have had a white parent, people come in all colours and shades (without wanting to be all MM about it)

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 18:04

Boomer55 · 09/09/2026 16:38

Why should she be ND? She could just be ill mannered. 🤷‍♀️

I would imagine there is something wrong with her, given some of the other strange things she comes out with (Im not talking about all the sex talk)

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 18:03

CinnamonJellyBeans · 08/09/2026 07:39

A woman as old as her, who has written a book, has enough life experience and intelligence to know that the way she referred to the colour of Andy Peter's skin was grossly and wilfully offensive. The accent was also grossly offensive.

If I said that to someone, I'd rightly lose my job. There's no way you can explain away calling someone that unrepeatable term.

I don't think Andy Peters dealt with it well at all. If it is safe to do so, you should call out racism every time, terminate the conversation, or refuse to further engage with the person. He did none of those. It may well have been a surprise for him to have experienced overt racism on his own talk show, but as a seasoned presenter, he should have managed that better.

Sometimes people take you back by surprise. I was walking to work one morning and 2 young men I would say mid 20s/ to late 30s. Said to "me move out of the way Golly wog" I think I was stunned they were young! Also I just walked on thinking which young person uses that term nowadays!

Andi did right not to entertain a person who cant tell a black person from dual heritage. Silence is golden and NOTHING he was going to say to MM would of made a difference let's be honest. MM would of had some old excuse.....

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 17:56

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 16:36

Wouldnt you expect his empoloyers to have said something? Or perhaps they have, Ive missed it?

Im wondering if she does have some sort of condition, Ive mentioned EUPD, could be ND, impulsive and socially deaf?

The producers DID. They spoke to Andi in his ear piece and he even said on air that the producers are getting worried. The producers are and were fully aware that MM is tone deaf. She just took NO notice. Andi just sort of laughed it off. He did well.

Parcelpass · 09/09/2026 17:53

I caught what she said. What shocked me more is that she thought Andy Peters had a white parent. CLEARLY the woman doesnt know what she is talking about and the conversation should of been shut down at that point.

PrettyLittleRose · 09/09/2026 17:45

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:43

They want you to change to conform to their standards though. I've seen it on here big time today.

Very true.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:43

PrettyLittleRose · 09/09/2026 17:41

Never gonna happen. Wink

They want you to change to conform to their standards though. I've seen it on here big time today.

PrettyLittleRose · 09/09/2026 17:41

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:13

People who are normally quick to call people racists speaking out when it's a leftie being insulting. Just to be consistent.

Never gonna happen. Wink

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:36

YourAmplePlumPoster · 09/09/2026 17:27

They must be desperate not to cancel MM because she is an outspoken critic of Israel.

The recent episode of that young actor quitting Maureen Lipman's play because of her stance on Israel was interesting. I'd hazard a guess he's got bugger all to say on the Andi Peters incident. These people's strong moral codes only seem to work in one direction.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 09/09/2026 17:27

They must be desperate not to cancel MM because she is an outspoken critic of Israel.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:13

JHound · 09/09/2026 16:31

What silence? From where? What specifically do you want to see?

People who are normally quick to call people racists speaking out when it's a leftie being insulting. Just to be consistent.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:03

JHound · 09/09/2026 16:31

Which ones specifically?

Gary Lineker, Gary Neville, Narinder Kaur (not that I class the last one as a celebrity).

Boomer55 · 09/09/2026 16:38

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 16:36

Wouldnt you expect his empoloyers to have said something? Or perhaps they have, Ive missed it?

Im wondering if she does have some sort of condition, Ive mentioned EUPD, could be ND, impulsive and socially deaf?

Why should she be ND? She could just be ill mannered. 🤷‍♀️

Boomer55 · 09/09/2026 16:37

Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

People of all types feel differently with all types of situations. 🤷‍♀️

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 16:36

Wouldnt you expect his empoloyers to have said something? Or perhaps they have, Ive missed it?

Im wondering if she does have some sort of condition, Ive mentioned EUPD, could be ND, impulsive and socially deaf?

JHound · 09/09/2026 16:32

AInightingale · 09/09/2026 16:01

Interesting, but Lady Susan Hussey didn't get excused because of her age when she questioned that woman at Buckingham Palace. She was hung out to dry...

By the same man?

JHound · 09/09/2026 16:31

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:31

That's a good point. Where are these Liberal luvvies who are normally vocal when it comes to the right. I can't see them calling for MM to be cancelled. Andi is left to paddle his own canoe on this one.

Which ones specifically?

JHound · 09/09/2026 16:31

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 08:23

The silence of condemnation is quite deafening.

What silence? From where? What specifically do you want to see?

JHound · 09/09/2026 16:30

AInightingale · 09/09/2026 07:58

Wasn't one of Harry and Meghan's allegations that a member of the Royal Family asked insensitive questions about the likely colour of their child when she was pregnant? Yes, people can be rude and crass this way, but at the time that story broke, there was a lot of sympathy for H&M and condemnation of the unnamed royal - why not of MM in this case? The hypocrisy of the left is sickening.

Which left specifically do you think have not condemned her who you want to comment? Can you name them? And what hypocrisy specifically?

likelysuspect · 09/09/2026 16:27

Lomonald · 09/09/2026 09:06

Christine Lampard, MM also randomly imitated her Irish accent!

She couldn't really say anything either.

Edited

I thought someone on this or the other thread that it was Andi Peters imitating Christine's accent, not MM?

Which is what led MM to ask him 'whats a normal accent for you'.

AInightingale · 09/09/2026 16:01

Interesting, but Lady Susan Hussey didn't get excused because of her age when she questioned that woman at Buckingham Palace. She was hung out to dry...

alexdgr8 · 09/09/2026 15:41

In looking up her tour itinerary I was directed to a Facebook post by a middle aged black man named Carl Perkins.
Basically he says it's her age and to avoid a pile on.
Again an interesting take.

alexdgr8 · 09/09/2026 15:38

The audience members in the theatre performance were given a copy of her book free.
So it is puzzling.
I think it was just after the tv appearance and probably in Southend.
She also has a very painful spinal condition and can hardly stand.
Was seated on stage.
In a reminiscence chat format.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 15:27

alexdgr8 · 09/09/2026 15:18

Have just read a thread on GN by someone who to see MM on stage with Ed Byrne.
Started by a poster called Cossy.
Who really enjoyed MM and found her kind humane and funny.
Apparently the tv business was because MM had been strictly told not to be contentious and that made her nervous and her mouth ran away with her...? ??
I don't know what to think.

You when a man with tourettes said something contentious, many didn't believe the syndrome was responsible. He was crucified.

Lomonald · 09/09/2026 15:24

Apparently the tv business was because MM had been strictly told not to be contentious and that made her nervous and her mouth ran away with her...? ??
I don't know what to think

If she can't hold a conversation about the topic for 10 minutes without insulting people and babbling then I don't think she should be on live television, if she has things to promote a recorded and edited interview would do.