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"How do black people feel? How do brown people feel? How do cripples feel? How do fat people feel?"

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Temptree · 07/09/2026 22:34

As stated by Miriam Margolyes today, as she gets worse and worse...... and worse.

Link to previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5574225-omg-miriam-margolyes-andi-peters?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

It was intolerable what she said on This Morning last week.
And now what she's saying today by way of defending herself is even further intolerable.

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MajorSamanthaCarter · 08/09/2026 09:42

hattie43 · 08/09/2026 09:34

Well she’s neither is she . At least her answer is thoughtful and considered whereas yours is just an uneducated insult .

Thoughtful and considered? I don't think that means what you think it means. Black women's bodies are not up for discussion anymore than white women's are. The thread that was referenced was full of racist, ignorant stereotypes that anyone with half a brain would speak out against not try to defend.

hattie43 · 08/09/2026 09:34

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Well she’s neither is she . At least her answer is thoughtful and considered whereas yours is just an uneducated insult .

emuloc · 08/09/2026 09:33

Cherrytree86 · 08/09/2026 08:31

She is thick as fuck.

No she is not. She knows exactly what she is doing.

Hummusfiend · 08/09/2026 09:32

I think possibly, in part, she is doing that thing that older educated people sometimes do which is to say awful inappropriate things, but think that they can get away with it because everyone knows they are really good people/on the right side/ hilarious/ charming/whatever and couldn't possibly really be racist or ableist. They are just pushing at boundaries for a joke.

I don't say this as defence, it's still racism, but with an extra helping of arrogant entitlement.

Marellain · 08/09/2026 09:29

TheFairyCaravan · 07/09/2026 23:55

She’s a nasty old hag. How she hasn’t been cancelled is beyond me.

Agist mysogynists slurs are not acceptable.

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 09:27

CinnamonJellyBeans · 08/09/2026 07:39

A woman as old as her, who has written a book, has enough life experience and intelligence to know that the way she referred to the colour of Andy Peter's skin was grossly and wilfully offensive. The accent was also grossly offensive.

If I said that to someone, I'd rightly lose my job. There's no way you can explain away calling someone that unrepeatable term.

I don't think Andy Peters dealt with it well at all. If it is safe to do so, you should call out racism every time, terminate the conversation, or refuse to further engage with the person. He did none of those. It may well have been a surprise for him to have experienced overt racism on his own talk show, but as a seasoned presenter, he should have managed that better.

What on earth did you expect Andi Peters to do? Walk off ? The man was shocked by her racist & rude comments

StandFirm · 08/09/2026 09:27

Hummusfiend · 08/09/2026 09:04

Why wouldn't there be a problem? What idf she were saying that to Black and brown healthcare workers, imitating the accents of NI staff? Her saying it in public emboldens people to say it in every day life and think it's acceptable/amusing/charming/funny whatever the hell she thinks she is doing.

Well, ok, then that would be for staff to complain about - what I meant was that we can't police personal opinions (however vile) in a private space. Scrap nursing home for just 'home' then... I'd personally make sure to avoid spending time with someone like that. It's all you can do. The issue here is having a public platform.

viques · 08/09/2026 09:24

hattie43 · 08/09/2026 05:43

Maybe because she’s a fat Jewish lesbian she feels she has the right to talk about other minorities. Either way I’ve never liked her . Being offensive I under the guise of little ol lady couldn’t possibly be horrible 😪

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She’s short as well. Another box for tick and talk.

RhannionKPSS · 08/09/2026 09:21

CarbonArtist · 08/09/2026 07:14

Miriam’s comments to Andi Peters were tasteless and unnecessary, but I suspect the reason she is being targeted with such ire is because she spoke up about the genocide.

Utter nonsense, people are having a go because she is a vile, disgusting woman and the only genocide going on is being inflicted on Christians in Sub Saharan Africa , but no one is marching for them!!!

3peassuit · 08/09/2026 09:20

She’s oxbridge educated and has worked in the entertainment industry for decades. I don’t believe she’s unaware of how offensive her lines of questioning are. She enjoys the free publicity her rudeness brings.

Lomonald · 08/09/2026 09:17

BillieWiper · 08/09/2026 09:15

So she equates having brown skin with having a physical disability or unhealthy body? And if she wants to know what fat people think why can't she just read her own crappy book?!

It is othering isn't it? What an ridiculous women she is.

LuckyHazelFox · 08/09/2026 09:15

"She's being targetted because she spoke out against the genocide"

SHE is the one doing the targeting. Expect more excuses. Wonder if she's going to be called to be cancelled 🤔

BillieWiper · 08/09/2026 09:15

So she equates having brown skin with having a physical disability or unhealthy body? And if she wants to know what fat people think why can't she just read her own crappy book?!

Lomonald · 08/09/2026 09:14

don’t take offence at the cripple word - my siblings and I use sticks for our mobility and referrals to ourselves an old cripples. MM does the same.

That is between you and your siblings isn't it that is your "humour" I have a life long disability ive not been called a cripple in absolute decades and it was a primary school playground as an insult

It isn't ok to call people with disabilities cripples Miriam Margolyes is aware of this and doesn't care, she goes on about language evolving and changing and how much she loves it, but chooses to reference a black man as "yella" and talk about "cripples "

I don't think there is any defence of MM

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 09:13

Gloriia · 08/09/2026 09:09

Oh please. Just because you refer to yourself as a cripple does not mean it's ok to use the term publicly.

'There are worse acts filing the summer season theatre in Torquay so I find it hard to get riled'

Really, there are acts in Torquay worse than talking about 'blacks, fats and cripples'?

She rightly needs calling out on her crap. Let's hope it's the last we see of her on chat shows!

People only care because she’s “left” so she’s not supposed to say these things. Loads of older disabled people refer to themselves as cripples, so it’s no surprise she does as well.

Roy Chubby Brown usually fills seaside theatres - yes he is far, far worse and people pay to spend the evening hearing it. Jim Davidson is similar and plays to a similar crowd. But yes they are “on the right” so that’s just expected - right?

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Gloriia · 08/09/2026 09:09

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 09:03

She’s built her whole career on this schtick so none of it is a surprise. There are worse acts filing the summer season theatre in Torquay so I find it hard to get riled up about it. People will keep interviewing her because people want to watch it - look at the posts here asking for links etc. Of course it’s vile but it sells papers.

I don’t take offence at the cripple word - my siblings and I use sticks for our mobility and referrals to ourselves an old cripples. MM does the same.

Oh please. Just because you refer to yourself as a cripple does not mean it's ok to use the term publicly.

'There are worse acts filing the summer season theatre in Torquay so I find it hard to get riled'

Really, there are acts in Torquay worse than talking about 'blacks, fats and cripples'?

She rightly needs calling out on her crap. Let's hope it's the last we see of her on chat shows!

TheFairyCaravan · 08/09/2026 09:06

Lentilcakes · 08/09/2026 08:46

She actually said ‘cripple’?

She’s been using it for years. I tweeted about her saying it on This Morning four years ago. She literally doesn’t care. Some people find that endearing about her. I do not.

Hummusfiend · 08/09/2026 09:04

StandFirm · 08/09/2026 08:56

Problem is, she's given airtime to share her stupid 'views' with the wider public. If she was making those statements in the privacy of her nursing home there wouldn't be a problem.

Why wouldn't there be a problem? What idf she were saying that to Black and brown healthcare workers, imitating the accents of NI staff? Her saying it in public emboldens people to say it in every day life and think it's acceptable/amusing/charming/funny whatever the hell she thinks she is doing.

HotGrapefruit · 08/09/2026 09:03

She’s built her whole career on this schtick so none of it is a surprise. There are worse acts filing the summer season theatre in Torquay so I find it hard to get riled up about it. People will keep interviewing her because people want to watch it - look at the posts here asking for links etc. Of course it’s vile but it sells papers.

I don’t take offence at the cripple word - my siblings and I use sticks for our mobility and referrals to ourselves an old cripples. MM does the same.

Holidaymodeon · 08/09/2026 08:59

Hummusfiend · 08/09/2026 08:50

Who on the left are defending her? Not being goady - just haven't seen any defence?

I’m hugely left leaning and I can’t find any defence for that horror show.
i also don’t think I’m the ‘right’ sort of left for labour anymore

StandFirm · 08/09/2026 08:56

Summer26woohoo · 08/09/2026 08:13

She's losing her marbles is my considered opinion.

Yes there are plenty of fully with it people in their 80's but there are plenty who aren't. She's losing what little filter she had, which I suspect is age related.

I can't get excited about what she said tbh, in the grand scheme of things there's much worse going on.

Problem is, she's given airtime to share her stupid 'views' with the wider public. If she was making those statements in the privacy of her nursing home there wouldn't be a problem.

Holidaymodeon · 08/09/2026 08:55

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That’s absolutely hideous, why are we still on here 😭🤦🏽‍♀️🤯 there are times when I’m horrified by some of the women on here

TheKeatingFive · 08/09/2026 08:53

She’s an awful person, I’m not sure why anyone gives her the time of day

Lomonald · 08/09/2026 08:53

CinnamonJellyBeans · 08/09/2026 07:39

A woman as old as her, who has written a book, has enough life experience and intelligence to know that the way she referred to the colour of Andy Peter's skin was grossly and wilfully offensive. The accent was also grossly offensive.

If I said that to someone, I'd rightly lose my job. There's no way you can explain away calling someone that unrepeatable term.

I don't think Andy Peters dealt with it well at all. If it is safe to do so, you should call out racism every time, terminate the conversation, or refuse to further engage with the person. He did none of those. It may well have been a surprise for him to have experienced overt racism on his own talk show, but as a seasoned presenter, he should have managed that better.

He was at work on live television, i don't understand what else you thought he could do, they did swiftly move it on, but i don't think it was up to him to do a to and fro about racism, she also doesn't care because as she said at her book thing. She wants to know how black/brown /cripples. Think about being black/brown/crippled

Miriam Margolyes thinks she has a right to say what she wants to who she wants.