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To think you don’t always need to cut your nose off to spite your face?

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asbigasyourhead · 07/09/2026 22:32

I know that it’s obviously a good thing to have very staunch morals, but sometimes I feel people take it too far.

A couple of recent examples I’ve encountered:

We were recently on a reasonably long walk with mother in law. At the end of the walk she was visibly shaky and looked unwell. She said she probably needed something sweet and she felt like her blood sugars were a little low. We went to the snack van thing and they only had KitKats as a chocolate bar option. She point blank refused to buy one as it’s made by Nestle and she won’t support them.

Ordinarily i fully support her on this and think it’s good for her to stand up to a company she doesn’t support. But in this instance I thought she was bonkers. She felt unwell and it was her only option. I offered to buy it (so she herself wasn’t supporting them) and she declined. She then went very dizzy and had to sit down for ages and still refused. Eventually father in law remembered he had a can of pop in the car so she drank that and felt better but it was still quite an ordeal and she was still visibly unwell.

A second was a family friend who has refused to take her children to Universal as there is Harry Potter there and she doesn’t want to support JK Rowling. (As an aside, I don’t want to derail this into a thread over whether we should or shouldn’t support Rowling!). Her children are devastated and are begging to go but she’s point blank refused.

Let’s be honest, the visit one family of four make to a multi million pound theme park isn’t going to make a shite of difference. If she was so bothered they could avoid the HP section but she’s refusing to let her kids go to any of it in case Rowling gets any money.

Im sure i’ll think of others but it just seems like sometimes people will get so hammered down on something that they refuse to take the blinkers off and see the bigger picture.

i totally get that its good to have strong morals and something to stand for, but there’s times where you have to think outside of that and consider your individual needs rather than what is best in a completely ideal world! AIBU?

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JHound · 08/09/2026 11:55

BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · 08/09/2026 11:11

Agree. It's more look at me and how principled I am, applaud me.
Refusing your children to try and avoid giving money to jk Rowling to use in upholding your rights is beyond idiotic and selfish.

Why do you assume firmly held principles are about “look at me” rather than something that individual holds as sincerely important.

I can only assume that your have a total lack of principles which is why you assume anybody with them is merely virtue signalling?

BillieWiper · 08/09/2026 11:54

I think some people want to make it look like they are doing just that.

Like they must be morally superior because they are prepared to inconvenience themselves or even cause themselves to be unwell in the name of their high and unyielding personal standards.

So it's almost like she would be more likely to refuse the KitKat if she was in a supposed hypo than if she was just offered it randomly.

JHound · 08/09/2026 11:51

I admire people like this and see no issue with either. If your abandon your values at the slightest inconvenience to yourself they aren’t true values.

Now of course there are SOME exemptions but I don’t see why yours would be.

tokennamechange · 08/09/2026 11:49

Knowing how teenagers are drawn to anything forbidden shes probably managed to create several future HP superfans out of her kids who will start buying merch and streaming HBO the moment they get access to their own money, which seems a bit silly.

She would be more likely to get them to follow her opinions if she sat them down and explained them and said "this is why I wont go to universal but if you and your dad want to go its up to you." Rather than making it forbidden fruit.

Rubydobydo · 08/09/2026 11:48

“Middle age has been defined as what happens when a person's broad mind and narrow waist change places.”

asbigasyourhead · 08/09/2026 11:45

PinkyFlamingo · 08/09/2026 11:43

I think it's a bit daft boycotting the entire Universal parks just because HP is a small section personally.
And I really think it's e rn after to risk your physical health because of hating nestle ...things can change with blood sugar so quickly.

This is my point, it’s hardly like a hard hitting thing that will really impact a company, but it has a huge impact on your own life and therefore you’re being miserable/risking your health for no real reason!

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tokennamechange · 08/09/2026 11:45

I agree with you OP.

Imagine standing at your parent's grave knowing they would still be alive if they'd just eaten a kit kat. She could have given the equivalent amount or more to a charity or whatever if she felt that guilty about it.

I also find that people who care so strongly about particular issues seem to pick and choose what things they feel bad enough to boycott. Obviously don't know the company that created the "can of pop" but I can imagine that if it was a big multicorp like coca cola they are hardly squeaky clean either.

The universal one I could perhaps vaguely understand or see the point of if the whole theme park was solely HP (or if it was the HP world tour in London they wanted to go to). But given HP is just one part of the huge universal theme park it seems completely OTT.

asbigasyourhead · 08/09/2026 11:44

ZombieZebra · 08/09/2026 11:08

I think YABU. Just because it’s not important to you, it might be really important to others. I’m currently boycotting the following things:

The musical 6- Despite really wanting to see it, I will never watch it anywhere in the world due to the fact they cast Dylan Mulvaney (A MAN) as Anne Boleyn on Broadway.

Tampax- Dylan Mulvaney strikes again

Modi Bodi- They used a trans woman (A MAN) in their advertising.

Busch Gardens- I really wanted to go when we were in Florida but as soon as I found out their parent company owned SeaWorld, I went NOPE.

Other people may not agree with me but these things are important to me and I won’t change my mind.

See the thing is for me is that it depends if it affects others I suppose. For example, I’d never support SeaWorld, but if I was on a family holiday and they all wanted to go then I’d say up to you i’ll do something else. I wouldn’t expect them to all refuse to go based on the fact I don’t want to support them

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PinkyFlamingo · 08/09/2026 11:43

I think it's a bit daft boycotting the entire Universal parks just because HP is a small section personally.
And I really think it's e rn after to risk your physical health because of hating nestle ...things can change with blood sugar so quickly.

asbigasyourhead · 08/09/2026 11:43

Lurkingandlearning · 08/09/2026 11:01

I agree with you that staunchly sticking to principles when it makes little impact on the issue but in a rare situation hurts people around you is crap. It’s performative and selfish.

Why cause your family distress because you are feeling v ill when eating a nestle chocolate would end the drama and their worry. It will make absolutely no difference to the company. And why deny your children fun because an author you dislike might earn fraction of pennies from your children attending a theme park that has many other attractions

I think this is my point really. Generally speaking I think it’s great that mil has a cause she stands for and won’t buy nestle in her house etc. But that one instance could have ended really badly based on her being stubborn!

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Coffeeandallthebooks · 08/09/2026 11:40

Principals are only principals if you stick to them even when its difficult. Otherwise they are just opinions.
No harm has been done in either case you have cited, MIL had a can of pop and was later fine, and no one will die without a visit to one specific theme park, there are lots of others which are great fun too, just with different themes.

AssassinsEyebrow · 08/09/2026 11:30

You make good points @asbigasyourhead, particularly about the medical incident. Points of principle become much more important in times like these where hate & exploitation is rising on all sides...I can see why people stick to them and admire them for doing so. We could argue that those points of principle are all we have left to resist.

Octavia64 · 08/09/2026 11:29

Many religions have requirements around food.

all
the ones I know say that in the event of a medical emergency or life threatening situation they don’t apply.

so first instance is unreasonable

second instance - plenty of other theme parks in Florida

parietal · 08/09/2026 11:29

Theme park - fine to boycott even if the kids moan.

kitkat - I think a medical emergency is a good reason to break a boycott but it is her choice.

araiwa · 08/09/2026 11:27

What a crappy couple of examples.

Drinking a can of pop is hardly cutting off your nose, nor is not going to Universal

BirdLandedonmyHead · 08/09/2026 11:16

JkR gives away far more money than she keeps to childrens, medical and womans support charities. So it is a stupid principle really.

nomas · 08/09/2026 11:12

A second was a family friend who has refused to take her children to Universal as there is Harry Potter there and she doesn’t want to support JK Rowling. (As an aside, I don’t want to derail this into a thread over whether we should or shouldn’t support Rowling!). Her children are devastated and are begging to go but she’s point blank refused.

Why does it not surprise me that the family friend is a twat who would deny her kids a fun experience because of a feminist icon like JKR.

BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · 08/09/2026 11:11

Lurkingandlearning · 08/09/2026 11:01

I agree with you that staunchly sticking to principles when it makes little impact on the issue but in a rare situation hurts people around you is crap. It’s performative and selfish.

Why cause your family distress because you are feeling v ill when eating a nestle chocolate would end the drama and their worry. It will make absolutely no difference to the company. And why deny your children fun because an author you dislike might earn fraction of pennies from your children attending a theme park that has many other attractions

Agree. It's more look at me and how principled I am, applaud me.
Refusing your children to try and avoid giving money to jk Rowling to use in upholding your rights is beyond idiotic and selfish.

ZombieZebra · 08/09/2026 11:08

I think YABU. Just because it’s not important to you, it might be really important to others. I’m currently boycotting the following things:

The musical 6- Despite really wanting to see it, I will never watch it anywhere in the world due to the fact they cast Dylan Mulvaney (A MAN) as Anne Boleyn on Broadway.

Tampax- Dylan Mulvaney strikes again

Modi Bodi- They used a trans woman (A MAN) in their advertising.

Busch Gardens- I really wanted to go when we were in Florida but as soon as I found out their parent company owned SeaWorld, I went NOPE.

Other people may not agree with me but these things are important to me and I won’t change my mind.

Lurkingandlearning · 08/09/2026 11:01

asbigasyourhead · 07/09/2026 22:37

I see what you mean but both instances are actually affecting others as well, who may disagree about the principles, which then feels redundant and unfair

I agree with you that staunchly sticking to principles when it makes little impact on the issue but in a rare situation hurts people around you is crap. It’s performative and selfish.

Why cause your family distress because you are feeling v ill when eating a nestle chocolate would end the drama and their worry. It will make absolutely no difference to the company. And why deny your children fun because an author you dislike might earn fraction of pennies from your children attending a theme park that has many other attractions

RanniTheWitch · 08/09/2026 10:46

No, it’s important to stick to your principles. There is no point having principles if you disregard them as soon as they become inconvenient.

Hollande · 08/09/2026 10:01

I think both those examples are fine. I would have refused the kitkat too.

i have some strong views but am also a bit of a people pleaser so can find myself ‘relenting’ more than I’d like to - and so I actually admire these women you’ve mentioned!

Catza · 07/09/2026 22:46

asbigasyourhead · 07/09/2026 22:37

I see what you mean but both instances are actually affecting others as well, who may disagree about the principles, which then feels redundant and unfair

But these two people disagree about your principles.. Are you willing to change them because they may feel it's unfair to support Neste and JKR?
We all disagree on million things. That's also quite normal and expected.

Catza · 07/09/2026 22:42

Ok, in a genuine medical emergency, I don't think it's smart. Admirable, but not smart.
However, HP is a separate issue and what you are essentially saying that it doesn't matter what individual objections are because "if I don't, someone else would". It's a pretty common belief and I profoundly disagree with it. Your friend has a strong view and maybe if every person who held that view made the same decision, there wouldn't have been thousands of people at the park. As to her children being upset, that's fine also. We don't always get what we want and it is a good opportunity to explain to them why we are not going and have an age-appropriate discussion about your beliefs. When they are adults, they can make a different choice.

asbigasyourhead · 07/09/2026 22:40

LarryForPrimeMinister · 07/09/2026 22:39

Well on that case she knew it wouldn't kill her not to eat it, so good on her sticking to her morals.

Sorry I meant in my original comment that she would have refused to eat it even if it was a life or death situation - my reply wasn’t clear

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