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To think I was put in an unacceptable situation regarding SEN students toileting needs?

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twelfthdoctor · 07/09/2026 20:43

I am genuinely not sure and would appreciate second opinions on this. Today was my first full day as an early years TA apprentice in a mainstream reception class and I'm totally overwhelmed. I've never worked in a school or with SEN students other than some volunteering.

A non verbal 4 year girl with autism soiled her clothes and I was asked to take her to the toilet, change her, and walk her back to class. It was difficult but I managed. Later, she did it again but pooped. I was told again to take her to the bathroom and change her clothes. I was not given any training or safeguarding information regarding personal care prior to this. I cleaned her up as much as possible and then tried to get her in fresh clothes, at which point she became very distressed and refused to get changed. I couldn't let her walk around naked obviously but struggled to get her dressed, she wouldn't wear her trousers and then refused to come to class and escalated into a full meltdown - hitting her head, throwing herself against the floor, kicking and lashing out at me. I couldn't leave her alone but they're was no one else here so I called out to another teacher who offered to help take her to lunch but told me I would have to deal with another SEN boy who has also pooped himself and change him too. Later the same day I was told to supervise 4 SEN children outdoors alone. The teacher also informed me that a new SEN could would arrive tomorrow and I would be in charge of looking after him outdoors while the class learns inside and that I would be doing the first girls toileting needs and training her from now on.

Aibu to feel like I should have been given some support or training on personal care, particularly regarding SEN students? Or been given more information regarding these students, and that it was a lot for one day? I'm not a SEN TA and while I love all the kids and it's part of the job, I worry too much responsibility will be passed into me and I would like to be able to fulfill it safely. I'm just super frazzled and while I did the best I could at the time I'm just feeling bad about myself like I messed up.

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IronEverything · 07/09/2026 21:21

Email them now and make it clear you will not be doing toilet changes again. Don't be talked into it, you cannot be forced to do that.

Then start looking for a new job.

BagginBilbo · 07/09/2026 21:17

No member of staff should be changing a child's nappy or pants by themselves. You should always have a second adult present. That protects both you and the child. It's basic safeguarding.

Cyclebabble · 07/09/2026 21:17

I would go so far as to say this is unsafe. Toileting for SEN children is a key area of risk where there can be all kinds of sensitivities, especially with a new staff member who the child is not comfortable or familiar with. I would expect there to be clear training and guidance, especially given you are on an apprenticeship. You are not at all being unreasonable to raise concerns both for the child's safety and frankly for your own physical and mental wellbeing.

Octavia64 · 07/09/2026 21:16

Ex teacher

at secondary level my school offered additional day for TAs to do intimate care (toileting and cleaning up of send students). I don’t think there was any formal training but TAs new to it shadowed experienced TAs for a bit.

Sen TAs generally get no training in anything and you work it out as you go along (was one before I trained to be a teacher).

oh I tell a lie, we had an hour session about reporting bruises etc and how to work the computer system if a child told us they were being abused.

JanBlues2026 · 07/09/2026 21:10

are you sure they know your level of experience ?

MrsHamlet · 07/09/2026 21:06

Please please please tell us that you're in a union.

Foxyviolet · 07/09/2026 21:02

That is completely unacceptable. They cannot expect you to do that without any training or support.

As an apprentice on your first day you should not be in charge of any child on your own, let alone SEN children.

You need to seek some guidance about what is expected of you and what support and training, they are going to put into place for you. Otherwise they will continue to take advantage of you.

Who asked you to do it? Do you have an enhanced dbs?

twelfthdoctor · 07/09/2026 20:59

LizandDerekGoals · 07/09/2026 20:55

This. And why an apprenticeship for such a poorly paid job?!

The job market is so terrible, I'd been unemployed for months so I accepted this poorly paid apprenticeship thinking at least I'll get a qualification out of it! And I've always wanted to work with children so thought I'd stick it out and see how it goes

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Sunbringer · 07/09/2026 20:59

I would ask them for more support and training and say you don’t feel equipped to do the full job without having been given any safeguarding training.

SEN TAs make minimum wage. You’d be paid the same to do far easier jobs.

twelfthdoctor · 07/09/2026 20:57

I'm thinking I'll talk to the class teacher but was wondering if I should also cc in the safeguarding lead in the school? I also don't want to have a bad relationship with the staff so I'm kind of worried but obviously the children's welfare comes first. The head of early years saw me take her to the toilet so clearly doesnt mind or see a problem with this. I stuck my head out the bathroom to ask her if there are any wipes and she told me to go and check the classroom even though that would've meant leaving her undressed and unattended in the bathroom that other children use, even if just for a few minutes which I didn't feel comfortable with

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LizandDerekGoals · 07/09/2026 20:55

Oxo01 · 07/09/2026 20:49

Nope leave and then look for something else.

This. And why an apprenticeship for such a poorly paid job?!

Oxo01 · 07/09/2026 20:51

Plus it be you that gets the brunt of it if anything bad happens as you have not raised concerns about training / support which should be in email to cover your self.

Oxo01 · 07/09/2026 20:49

Nope leave and then look for something else.

TheABC · 07/09/2026 20:49

That sounds incredibly hard. What happens when you are looking after one child and have to clean up another? Also asking one TA to look after 5 SEN children without training or input sounds like a safeguarding nightmare.

twelfthdoctor · 07/09/2026 20:46

Some people have told me this is just normal and some have told me no school would ask me to do so that with no training or guidelines whatsoever so I wasn't sure if I was overreacting

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nomas · 07/09/2026 20:45

YANBU. I would be looking for a different job.

twelfthdoctor · 07/09/2026 20:44

Please excuse any typos in the text, brain is mush atm!

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