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AIBU to refuse Christmas visits because of the family dogs?

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Xmasinkennels · 07/09/2026 17:35

So the Christmas plans have started. MIL thinks she is in charge of everyone’s schedules and movements 24-26 dec.

Last year we declined as they all have dogs!

This year she is trying to insist on various times at various peoples houses and I’ve said no ! We can’t be around any of the dogs!

We’ve offered to host here on Xmas eve or Boxing Day but that’s an absolute no as nobody can leave their beloved pets.

She can’t/wont accept that we just don’t like their dogs. MIL has two yappy snappy yorkies. SIL has four dogs. BIL 1 has three. BIL 2 has one. None are well trained and they all smell and it’s just not festive to me at all!!!

We offered alternatives! AIBU to stick to my guns on this

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TheLastNotch · 12/09/2026 15:24

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Plenty of real relationships, thanks. Including the one with my dogs.

TheLastNotch · 12/09/2026 11:23

mrsm43s · 12/09/2026 09:30

You've hit the nail on the head. You lack respect for other people's situations and think only what you want matters. I'm glad you recognise that.

Madness isn't it? How embarassing

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mrsm43s · 12/09/2026 09:30

BakersKitchen · 12/09/2026 09:02

I’m not presuming anything, I just don’t respect it 🤷🏼‍♀️

You've hit the nail on the head. You lack respect for other people's situations and think only what you want matters. I'm glad you recognise that.

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BakersKitchen · 12/09/2026 09:02

TheLastNotch · 12/09/2026 06:18

"Why would you presume to know how other people experience their allergies?"

The same way that ppl presume to know how other people experience the relationship with their pet. 😘

I’m not presuming anything, I just don’t respect it 🤷🏼‍♀️

Gloriia · 12/09/2026 08:31

ovals · 12/09/2026 08:12

Nope, it really isn’t weird. Fairly standard. You really aren’t the know it all you think you are.

My dog’s welfare is paramount to me, I understand his needs and realise there’s not a one size fits all solution. Now, why don’t you go and spend some time with your dog before tucking it up with chew behind a closed door for the rest of the day.

You keep making these comments about me being a know it all, which is true tbf. Here's an idea just ignore me and stop quoting me?

Ive just been out for an hour with my well trained dog thanks then yes I will tuck her up with a chew whilst I pop to a friend's as I'm a considerate owner and don't enforce my lovely dog on others. Try it.

ovals · 12/09/2026 08:12

Gloriia · 12/09/2026 07:54

I know loads of people with well trained dogs. For example they are able to be left for short times, they are able to stay away from visitors if required, they don't howl if at home alone.

Not one stays immobile on its bed like a statue when someone enters a room until <checks notes> 'released' by the owner. That's really weird .

Dogs are inquisitive, they are usually friendly and like to say hello in their own environment. This is all normal behaviour Confused

Anyway back to the op, people's feelings come before dogs and all dogs are happy in a bed a chew away from noise and chaos. Do try and put their welfare first.

Nope, it really isn’t weird. Fairly standard. You really aren’t the know it all you think you are.

My dog’s welfare is paramount to me, I understand his needs and realise there’s not a one size fits all solution. Now, why don’t you go and spend some time with your dog before tucking it up with chew behind a closed door for the rest of the day.

Gloriia · 12/09/2026 07:54

ovals · 11/09/2026 18:43

Really? It’s fairly standard for well trained dogs. Perhaps you don’t know as much as you make out you do. Extraordinary!

I know loads of people with well trained dogs. For example they are able to be left for short times, they are able to stay away from visitors if required, they don't howl if at home alone.

Not one stays immobile on its bed like a statue when someone enters a room until <checks notes> 'released' by the owner. That's really weird .

Dogs are inquisitive, they are usually friendly and like to say hello in their own environment. This is all normal behaviour Confused

Anyway back to the op, people's feelings come before dogs and all dogs are happy in a bed a chew away from noise and chaos. Do try and put their welfare first.

TheLastNotch · 12/09/2026 06:18

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 16:12

Actually it does make a difference to the point where it is tolerable. It would be extremely limiting to never go anywhere that has had a dog so there is an element of suffering that needs to be endured. If the dog is shut in another room and the host has hoovered beforehand, it is manageable with strong antihistamines. It is not the case otherwise. Why would you presume to know how other people experience their allergies?

"Why would you presume to know how other people experience their allergies?"

The same way that ppl presume to know how other people experience the relationship with their pet. 😘

mrsm43s · 11/09/2026 20:51

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 18:11

It’s not my will. It’s my medical need.

And actually most people don’t mind because most people have their priorities in order

Your medical need is that you must spend time in someone's house that will trigger your allergies, rather than meeting them in a dog-free and allergen free space? Weird. I think you'd be better off thinking of some other compromises!

ovals · 11/09/2026 18:43

Gloriia · 11/09/2026 18:29

'I don’t need to lock them away when tradesmen, or indeed anyone comes. I can place them in their beds and they stay there until I release them'

Wow, extraordinary! I've never known a dog stay on its bed until 'released', natural behaviour is to get up and greet visitors (calmly obviously) then be kept away from tradesmen/visitors depending on the visitors choice,.

Really? It’s fairly standard for well trained dogs. Perhaps you don’t know as much as you make out you do. Extraordinary!

pinkiphoneandwine · 11/09/2026 18:38

Gloriia · 11/09/2026 18:29

'I don’t need to lock them away when tradesmen, or indeed anyone comes. I can place them in their beds and they stay there until I release them'

Wow, extraordinary! I've never known a dog stay on its bed until 'released', natural behaviour is to get up and greet visitors (calmly obviously) then be kept away from tradesmen/visitors depending on the visitors choice,.

You have never met extremely well trained dogs then. How extraordinary!!! When you have 10+ dogs, it’s necessary to maintain order. And most people don’t want to be approached by 10+ dogs at once, however calmly, with no warning and without their permission. I’m sure you can understand that 😎

Gloriia · 11/09/2026 18:29

'I don’t need to lock them away when tradesmen, or indeed anyone comes. I can place them in their beds and they stay there until I release them'

Wow, extraordinary! I've never known a dog stay on its bed until 'released', natural behaviour is to get up and greet visitors (calmly obviously) then be kept away from tradesmen/visitors depending on the visitors choice,.

ovals · 11/09/2026 18:15

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 18:11

It’s not my will. It’s my medical need.

And actually most people don’t mind because most people have their priorities in order

In that case you’ve spent a lot of time complaining about something that doesn’t cause you any problems?

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 18:11

mrsm43s · 11/09/2026 18:09

So in summary, you won't compromise, expecting everyone else to bend to your will.

It’s not my will. It’s my medical need.

And actually most people don’t mind because most people have their priorities in order

mrsm43s · 11/09/2026 18:09

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 17:54

Because increasingly the number of dog free places are few and far between. We’re just trying to exist in the world.

And because there are certain events, like Christmas for example, where they are centred around a person’s home.

And because you don’t always want to go out to a venue - there is intimacy in spending time at other people’s houses and them spending time at yours.

The issue is not the allergic person, or the person who doesn’t like dogs, it is the dog owner prioritising animals above people which is just wrong.

So in summary, you won't compromise, expecting everyone else to bend to your will.

pinkiphoneandwine · 11/09/2026 18:00

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 17:54

Because increasingly the number of dog free places are few and far between. We’re just trying to exist in the world.

And because there are certain events, like Christmas for example, where they are centred around a person’s home.

And because you don’t always want to go out to a venue - there is intimacy in spending time at other people’s houses and them spending time at yours.

The issue is not the allergic person, or the person who doesn’t like dogs, it is the dog owner prioritising animals above people which is just wrong.

You refer to dogs as animals which will “soon be dead” and you are genuinely confused about why people might prioritise their dogs above you? Even if I didn’t have a dog, with that attitude, I wouldn’t ever invite you to visit.

pinkiphoneandwine · 11/09/2026 17:55

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 11:57

They’re being polite - around 15% of the population have a dog or cat allergy. Obviously to varying degrees of severity.

For a variety of reasons, most people stay for at least one night when they come to visit. If they have a severe allergy to dogs, I doubt they would. And honestly? The vast, vast majority of people who come to my house choose to interact with my dogs. I can easily keep them away if necessary (not shut away but they won’t approach a person unless they are asked and I release them) but most people ask me not to keep them away. This vehement hatred of dogs does seem to be a MN thing.

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 17:54

mrsm43s · 11/09/2026 16:51

But why not just meet in a dog free place in a location where the dog owner could travel and complete the activity within a reasobable time for the dog to be left (say 3 or 4 hours), rather than insisting on locking a dog away causing distress, and actively suffering an allergic reaction yourself?

Because increasingly the number of dog free places are few and far between. We’re just trying to exist in the world.

And because there are certain events, like Christmas for example, where they are centred around a person’s home.

And because you don’t always want to go out to a venue - there is intimacy in spending time at other people’s houses and them spending time at yours.

The issue is not the allergic person, or the person who doesn’t like dogs, it is the dog owner prioritising animals above people which is just wrong.

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 17:52

RampantIvy · 11/09/2026 16:55

Not dogs, but cats. DD is extremely allergic to cats. Industrial strength antihistamines don't touch it, so I can well believe that some people are this allergic to dogs.

DD is allergic to some dogs, but not on the scale that she is to cats. She had allergy testing through the GP and the letter he wrote to he stated that her allergy to cats "is off the scale".

Yes it’s a spectrum and people forget and treat it just as though it is a bit of hayfever which is not the case for many. I am allergic to cats as well although not as badly as dogs. My DH is the other way around.

RampantIvy · 11/09/2026 16:55

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 16:12

Actually it does make a difference to the point where it is tolerable. It would be extremely limiting to never go anywhere that has had a dog so there is an element of suffering that needs to be endured. If the dog is shut in another room and the host has hoovered beforehand, it is manageable with strong antihistamines. It is not the case otherwise. Why would you presume to know how other people experience their allergies?

Not dogs, but cats. DD is extremely allergic to cats. Industrial strength antihistamines don't touch it, so I can well believe that some people are this allergic to dogs.

DD is allergic to some dogs, but not on the scale that she is to cats. She had allergy testing through the GP and the letter he wrote to he stated that her allergy to cats "is off the scale".

mrsm43s · 11/09/2026 16:51

BakersKitchen · 11/09/2026 16:12

Actually it does make a difference to the point where it is tolerable. It would be extremely limiting to never go anywhere that has had a dog so there is an element of suffering that needs to be endured. If the dog is shut in another room and the host has hoovered beforehand, it is manageable with strong antihistamines. It is not the case otherwise. Why would you presume to know how other people experience their allergies?

But why not just meet in a dog free place in a location where the dog owner could travel and complete the activity within a reasobable time for the dog to be left (say 3 or 4 hours), rather than insisting on locking a dog away causing distress, and actively suffering an allergic reaction yourself?

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