Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to worry our son is being overindulged after his A-level results?

678 replies

NavyRobin · 07/09/2026 10:43

Our DS got his A-level results back in August and got 3 A stars and an A. We were absolutely thrilled for him. He was originally predicted ABBB, so these results were a huge shock to everyone, including his teachers. Our son told us on results day because of his teachers not predicting him high grades for his UCAS application, he decided to do badly on purpose on all the tests, mocks etc. At this point I am just lost as to why he needed to act that way as we were getting emails at home telling us that he isn't doing anything in lessons etc when at home he was revising and sticking to a routine. I think I have raised somewhat of an insane child. WHO DOES THAT?!

He wasn't exactly a model student at school. He was bright but messed around quite a lot and didn't always put the effort in we now learn that this is on purpose at A Levels, GCSE he was fine but he liked his teachers at GCSE. We did speak to the school several times about his predicted grades because we felt they were quite low but they wouldn't budge, which I do understand to an extent.

The problem is that his predicted grades limited his university choices. He applied to five universities, including some very competitive ones, but was rejected from three.Then results day came around and he achieved 3 A stars and an A.He's now decided to take a gap year and reapply for Engineering, with Cambridge and Bath being two of the universities he's interested in.
We're supportive of the gap year. We actually think it could be a good opportunity for him, particularly as he now has achieved grades rather than predicted grades. We have spoken to Bath admissions and, because he previously applied, they already have his application and results. They've said his achieved grades would make his application very competitive, although obviously nothing is guaranteed and the rest of the application and selection process still matters. Cambridge will obviously be much more difficult and we're under no illusion that he'll necessarily get in.

My issue is what he's actually planning to do during this gap year, it is his attitude.He worked at Waitrose for about a year, in the deli, and left recently. I thought this would be a good opportunity for him to get another job, even if just part-time, earn some money and gain some independence.
However, DH has actually told him that he "doesn't want to do such jobs" and that he's "better than that".DH owns an engineering company (a different area of engineering to what DS wants to go into) and has offered him work there instead.So DS can work for his dad, potentially doing something engineering-related, while living at home and with very little financial pressure.
And then there's the money.

DS turned 18 this summer and DH's parents gave him £34k as an 18th birthday present. I wasn't particularly comfortable with such a large amount being given to an 18-year-old, but obviously it's their money and their decision. I do understand that they are very proud of him and wanted to give him something special.But since then, he's been spending it fairly freely. He recently spent £13k on a car when the Polo he already had was perfectly fine. He's also been buying lots of things he's always wanted.

And now, because they're so proud of his A-level results, DH's parents have gifted him another £10k. They have always been quite generous with our children all throughout. Our children's JISA's are pretty much just for their grandparents to put money in for them. So he's received £44k from his grandparents in a matter of months, at 18.I genuinely don't understand it.
I know people will say "it's their money" and yes, I completely accept that. They can do whatever they want with it, and I know it's coming from a place of love and pride. But I can't help thinking that £10k could have gone straight into his savings account instead of being handed to an 18 year old
What is the point of giving an 18 year old that amount of money? Surely part of the point of helping your children financially is to give them a secure start in life, not necessarily to give them a huge amount of spending money at 18?
DH thinks I'm being ridiculous. He says DS has worked incredibly hard, got exceptional results and deserves to enjoy the money. He also thinks working for his company will give him much better experience than working in a supermarket and could potentially help with his future university application.
And I agree with some of that.I am incredibly proud of DS. I'm not trying to take anything away from his results, and I'm not against helping him financially. If anything, I think we've been very fortunate that he has grandparents who are in a position to give him this sort of support.But I worry about the overall message.
He doesn't need to get a job because Dad will give him one.
He doesn't need to worry about money because grandparents have given him £44k in 2 months.He doesn't need to keep his old car because he can spend £13k on another one.And DH is actively telling him that certain jobs are beneath him.I can't help feeling that we're setting him up to believe that life will always be this easy.

He's 18. Surely it's not unreasonable to expect him to have some structure, earn some of his own money and learn to manage what he has?
Or am I being completely unreasonable and should I just leave him alone?
He got fantastic results, he's got a potentially very exciting future ahead of him and the money is technically his. Maybe I'm just being an old-fashioned mum who thinks an 18 year old should have to work for things rather than have everything handed to him.

AIBU?

OP posts:
thepariscrimefiles · 08/09/2026 09:01

NavyRobin · 08/09/2026 06:15

I think you’re making this rather more mysterious than it is. Last I checked, my mother is American, I have travelled to America many many many times, spent every summer there pretty much growing up, lived there for a bit too after university on my American passport, visit extended family almost every year who don’t care either but she isn’t from a Republican state and doesn’t particularly care about Trump. There’s a world is America that didn’t vote for Trump and isn’t keeping up with the Trumps every move unless it’s really geopolitical. I’ve lived in Britain all my life and, frankly feel much the same.

I keep up with politics perfectly well I read the Economist and the FT those are what my father read while I was growing up and I’ve just kept up with it we discuss politics fairly often just now what you think as neither of us don’t follow Trump’s every utterance or know the finer details of his life unless they’re relevant and reported by sources I actually read. That isn’t quite the same thing as not knowing who the current Prime Minister here is I canvass and volunteer for my local MP of course I keep up with politics.

No one in our extended family is particularly obsessed with Trump we broadly think he’s a twat and leave it at that. People live in different way nothing wrong with just keeping up with geo politics in terms of tariffs & foreign policy I don’t know the guy and I don’t agree with him on most things that’s about it.

I'm amazed that your mother who is American and lives in the USA isn't really aware or interested in the dreadful things that Trump is doing.

Doesn't she care about Trump being in the Epstein files, the war with Iran (where the USA bombed a school on the first day of the war and killed 126 school children), the trade war with Canada and the renaming of Lake Ontario to the Lake of America, the threat to take over Greenland for its minerals, to name but a few of the disgusting things that he has done or is doing?

You sound as though you live in an upper-middle class bubble where you and your family are insulated from the dreadful things that are happening in the world.

BettyBoh · 08/09/2026 09:07

Do his grandparents want to turn him into an entitled and lazy adult? If there’s any trauma or ADHD then they may well be encouraging other poor behaviours like reliance on alcohol etc.

there is something massively wrong if grandparents think that kind of money is a good idea. Do they know how to love or just give out ridiculously high amounts of money with no purpose behind it.

TheJuryIsOut · 08/09/2026 09:34

Denim4ever · 07/09/2026 23:14

He was clearly capable of high results so something went wrong with the school. Assume if he's been there since 4 it's an independent school. Often independent schools are not great with individuals with big personalities

Op said he was revising for 8 hours a day, that doesn't necessarily scream genius/extremely high achiever, it is indicative of someone who has to work extremely hard to get the top grades and could easily have ended up with a B. Also he was predicted a B in three subjects, not just one. Therefore it was three separate teachers who thought he would get a B so this isn't just one teacher with a weird vendetta against a kid, it's obviously a pattern.

TheJuryIsOut · 08/09/2026 09:36

NavyRobin · 07/09/2026 22:52

I am confused you don’t know what subsidies we get from the school. It’s not exactly as though he attends Eton or Harrow these are cheap school with just normal parents not millionaires and billionaires. DHs parents are wealthy but they have never paid any of the fees for our children and they don’t need to as they just go to the local school. The closest school to us just happens to be a private school it’s not a top school by any means we didn’t send our children there for that. We sent them there for extra support you don’t know if my children have any extra needs or anything you’re just making assumptions. 200k fees is far from what we have paid in their time there but I wouldn’t know since you seem to know albeit my husband and I both contribute equal amounts to the fees. You also don’t know what kind of private school it is there is lots of different private schools with different ethos some are even funded by other entities it’s not always just parents paying £200k that you think.

We did have meeting with the school regarding the UCAS predicted grades I have mentioned this right at the start. You are just making assumptions I’ll admit the thread has gone on for a while but I have said this regarding the meeting also regarding his friend who was getting Cs and Ds yet managed to convince the schools to predict him As. Let’s agree to disagree and say that I do not know despite me very much being in touch with the school regarding his ucas application.

"cheap schools", there's no such thing. If you can afford any private school then you are not within the norm. I realise that's not the point of the thread but you sound like you're in some sort of upper middle class bubble.

Fizzink38 · 08/09/2026 09:39

I didn't believe the thread - it reminded me of an episode of House where a woman had no memory, so made up narratives based on visual clues around her.
But, if it was real, what was the point? OP ignored or dismissed any advice given to her about the problem she initially presented, wasting people's time and energy. (Apples and trees, much?)
Basically, despite having every possible privilege, her son did a shitty, selfish, immature thing, knowing it would have no impact on him and he'd get to work for Daddy and get £££ from his grandparents.
Ironically, this behaviour was apparently prompted by his teachers not giving him exactly what he wanted when he wanted it, and justified by OP who pointed out that he wasn't getting the advantage others got (who had their predicted grades increased).
Shows that it doesn't matter how much privilege some people have, it's never enough.

MajorProcrastination · 08/09/2026 09:41

NavyRobin · 07/09/2026 14:56

He doesn't just have one stream of income, he is always doing various things has his own small business on Ebay that has been doing quite well, pays his taxes enough for him to want to learn more about taxes. He bought a 2006 polo that had 60k miles on it was not a Porche, our 16 year old son has saved up 5k in two months and has a small business, is using a bit of that 5k to buy his first car when he starts driving lessons. People really underestimate young people especially in this day and age where you are able to make money by having access to the internet.

Right so this is big information compared to your initial introduction of some kid with just a part time job in Waitrose. If he managed to save up £5k in two months it sounds like his annual income's around the same as an average UK adult. AND he gets a free £45k on top of that for getting good grades? Bloody hell. How the other half live.

ChampagneProblemsTS · 08/09/2026 09:49

'cheap schools'

Lol.

TheJuryIsOut · 08/09/2026 09:59

MajorProcrastination · 08/09/2026 09:41

Right so this is big information compared to your initial introduction of some kid with just a part time job in Waitrose. If he managed to save up £5k in two months it sounds like his annual income's around the same as an average UK adult. AND he gets a free £45k on top of that for getting good grades? Bloody hell. How the other half live.

Come on now let's be fair, the poor kid has only been to Australia, Japan, Singapore, America, African safaris and everywhere in Europe and he's only been to a cheap school poor thing.

I didn't realise that if I just save for a couple of years I could go on safaris and fly across the world regularly rather than a weekend in a caravan in Blackpool. I can't believe I've been unnecessarily missing out all these years.

ChampagneProblemsTS · 08/09/2026 10:04

TheJuryIsOut · 08/09/2026 09:59

Come on now let's be fair, the poor kid has only been to Australia, Japan, Singapore, America, African safaris and everywhere in Europe and he's only been to a cheap school poor thing.

I didn't realise that if I just save for a couple of years I could go on safaris and fly across the world regularly rather than a weekend in a caravan in Blackpool. I can't believe I've been unnecessarily missing out all these years.

It's because you don't know about the internet. If you did you'd have 164k followers while working about 4 jobs and hatching a master fuck you plan against your teachers.

If only you'd known.

MsPrufrockk · 08/09/2026 10:48

NavyRobin · 07/09/2026 22:59

If you think so. I don’t particularly think so there’s people with better lifestyles. I’m poorer in my adult life than I was growing up but such is life. Poorer than my parents at my age DH is certainly poorer than his parents but we don’t complain we just work as hard as we can line everyone else in the country doing their bit to make this lives or their children’s lives better.

Oh poor, poor you 😂😂😂

This thread has got so ridiculous. And no, I'm not going to disengage or report it, as you keep telling people to do, because it's entertaining.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 11:07

ChampagneProblemsTS · 08/09/2026 10:04

It's because you don't know about the internet. If you did you'd have 164k followers while working about 4 jobs and hatching a master fuck you plan against your teachers.

If only you'd known.

Damn that internet.

I will be having a word with my parents for not giving me shitloads of money and supporting me in appalling behaviour.

Bonkers1966 · 08/09/2026 11:13

I just have to unwatch after the life story. Jeez

Denim4ever · 08/09/2026 11:25

TheJuryIsOut · 08/09/2026 09:34

Op said he was revising for 8 hours a day, that doesn't necessarily scream genius/extremely high achiever, it is indicative of someone who has to work extremely hard to get the top grades and could easily have ended up with a B. Also he was predicted a B in three subjects, not just one. Therefore it was three separate teachers who thought he would get a B so this isn't just one teacher with a weird vendetta against a kid, it's obviously a pattern.

High achievers work for it and know how to, you can't pass with high grades at A Level without working.

It sounds like the OPs DS fell out of love with the school or it ceased to become a good fit. Often a 'school' type atmosphere where sport is still timetabled or uniform is still worn etc various other school like things that make it the wrong setting for sixth form study.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 08/09/2026 11:30

I agree with others, if this thread is real I have no idea why the OP started it. All the nonsense around her son/whether the family is wealthy or not is rage-baiting but irrelevant, the real point is that the son is 18 and if the grandparents want to give him money and he wants to take it, there is FA that the OP can do about it so she needs to accept it and move on.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 11:44

Denim4ever · 08/09/2026 11:25

High achievers work for it and know how to, you can't pass with high grades at A Level without working.

It sounds like the OPs DS fell out of love with the school or it ceased to become a good fit. Often a 'school' type atmosphere where sport is still timetabled or uniform is still worn etc various other school like things that make it the wrong setting for sixth form study.

Some very clever people pass exams with minimum effort.

A relative of mine passed her exams and got decent (but not spectacular) grades only because she studied day and night. Same with uni. She then realised when she left to do the job she had qualified for that she was completely out of her depth.

YourGoldLurker · 08/09/2026 12:13

NavyRobin · 07/09/2026 10:43

Our DS got his A-level results back in August and got 3 A stars and an A. We were absolutely thrilled for him. He was originally predicted ABBB, so these results were a huge shock to everyone, including his teachers. Our son told us on results day because of his teachers not predicting him high grades for his UCAS application, he decided to do badly on purpose on all the tests, mocks etc. At this point I am just lost as to why he needed to act that way as we were getting emails at home telling us that he isn't doing anything in lessons etc when at home he was revising and sticking to a routine. I think I have raised somewhat of an insane child. WHO DOES THAT?!

He wasn't exactly a model student at school. He was bright but messed around quite a lot and didn't always put the effort in we now learn that this is on purpose at A Levels, GCSE he was fine but he liked his teachers at GCSE. We did speak to the school several times about his predicted grades because we felt they were quite low but they wouldn't budge, which I do understand to an extent.

The problem is that his predicted grades limited his university choices. He applied to five universities, including some very competitive ones, but was rejected from three.Then results day came around and he achieved 3 A stars and an A.He's now decided to take a gap year and reapply for Engineering, with Cambridge and Bath being two of the universities he's interested in.
We're supportive of the gap year. We actually think it could be a good opportunity for him, particularly as he now has achieved grades rather than predicted grades. We have spoken to Bath admissions and, because he previously applied, they already have his application and results. They've said his achieved grades would make his application very competitive, although obviously nothing is guaranteed and the rest of the application and selection process still matters. Cambridge will obviously be much more difficult and we're under no illusion that he'll necessarily get in.

My issue is what he's actually planning to do during this gap year, it is his attitude.He worked at Waitrose for about a year, in the deli, and left recently. I thought this would be a good opportunity for him to get another job, even if just part-time, earn some money and gain some independence.
However, DH has actually told him that he "doesn't want to do such jobs" and that he's "better than that".DH owns an engineering company (a different area of engineering to what DS wants to go into) and has offered him work there instead.So DS can work for his dad, potentially doing something engineering-related, while living at home and with very little financial pressure.
And then there's the money.

DS turned 18 this summer and DH's parents gave him £34k as an 18th birthday present. I wasn't particularly comfortable with such a large amount being given to an 18-year-old, but obviously it's their money and their decision. I do understand that they are very proud of him and wanted to give him something special.But since then, he's been spending it fairly freely. He recently spent £13k on a car when the Polo he already had was perfectly fine. He's also been buying lots of things he's always wanted.

And now, because they're so proud of his A-level results, DH's parents have gifted him another £10k. They have always been quite generous with our children all throughout. Our children's JISA's are pretty much just for their grandparents to put money in for them. So he's received £44k from his grandparents in a matter of months, at 18.I genuinely don't understand it.
I know people will say "it's their money" and yes, I completely accept that. They can do whatever they want with it, and I know it's coming from a place of love and pride. But I can't help thinking that £10k could have gone straight into his savings account instead of being handed to an 18 year old
What is the point of giving an 18 year old that amount of money? Surely part of the point of helping your children financially is to give them a secure start in life, not necessarily to give them a huge amount of spending money at 18?
DH thinks I'm being ridiculous. He says DS has worked incredibly hard, got exceptional results and deserves to enjoy the money. He also thinks working for his company will give him much better experience than working in a supermarket and could potentially help with his future university application.
And I agree with some of that.I am incredibly proud of DS. I'm not trying to take anything away from his results, and I'm not against helping him financially. If anything, I think we've been very fortunate that he has grandparents who are in a position to give him this sort of support.But I worry about the overall message.
He doesn't need to get a job because Dad will give him one.
He doesn't need to worry about money because grandparents have given him £44k in 2 months.He doesn't need to keep his old car because he can spend £13k on another one.And DH is actively telling him that certain jobs are beneath him.I can't help feeling that we're setting him up to believe that life will always be this easy.

He's 18. Surely it's not unreasonable to expect him to have some structure, earn some of his own money and learn to manage what he has?
Or am I being completely unreasonable and should I just leave him alone?
He got fantastic results, he's got a potentially very exciting future ahead of him and the money is technically his. Maybe I'm just being an old-fashioned mum who thinks an 18 year old should have to work for things rather than have everything handed to him.

AIBU?

10k for passing your A levels? Indulged. Absolutely so

Millytante · 08/09/2026 12:27

I’m just catching up on your thread and was astonished to read your mention very late last night that your boys are neurodivergent. (I could have sworn this was not disclosed before).
I did wonder about a private school which accepts pupils from the age of four up to A Levels, so no doubt that explains the matter.
But given that the thread is all about your son’s behaviour and attitudes, and what is or is not good for his development into adulthood, that ND detail might be regarded as germane to the discussion from the outset.

IdaGlossop · 08/09/2026 12:33

This is certainly an intriguing thread. So far I haven't been able to make my mind up whether OP is aware of how privileged she is or not. I'm also struck by her apparent passivity. I can't imagine what I would do if my DD had behaved towards a teacher as DS did but there would have been big trouble. My DH would be in trouble too, for supporting her bad behaviour.

Looking back, I laugh at myself because although DD behaved well at school, a call from her English teacher had me thinking immediately 'What's she done?' (the call, a one-off, was to praise her) and one in Y6 to tell me she had been involved in a racist incident (a vision of the offended family sitting round our dinner table telling DD what racism felt like leapt into my head but in fact DD was the victim of the incident).

I talked to her a lot about relative privilege, and did so even more when, unexpectedly, she went to an independent school for sixth form. On her 18th birthday, we gave her a sum of money that was substantial (but less than £34,000), that she was not expecting and having assessed whether she was likely to blow it on fripparies. Five years later, none of it has been squandered and all of it is invested.

So I hope OP's son will develop the maturity to look dispassionately at his family background and to throw off the entitlement OP has described.

IdaGlossop · 08/09/2026 12:37

YourGoldLurker · 08/09/2026 12:13

10k for passing your A levels? Indulged. Absolutely so

Linking financial reward to academic success sends out the wrong message. The results and what they make possible are the reward.

Denim4ever · 08/09/2026 12:51

Millytante · 08/09/2026 12:27

I’m just catching up on your thread and was astonished to read your mention very late last night that your boys are neurodivergent. (I could have sworn this was not disclosed before).
I did wonder about a private school which accepts pupils from the age of four up to A Levels, so no doubt that explains the matter.
But given that the thread is all about your son’s behaviour and attitudes, and what is or is not good for his development into adulthood, that ND detail might be regarded as germane to the discussion from the outset.

Lots of independent schools start from 3 or 4 and go straight through. There are usually various stages at which they might need to achieve results in internal or external exams to keep their place. Both Perse schools in Cambridge and Bedford School are examples of through schools without ND specialism.

Reasons you might switch schools or leave are compelling. Being in the same school or one or several of the settings of that school throughout your school career could fail to prepare you to adapt to change or acquire independent mindset or skills. You might need a change for many other reasons. Sixth forms in private schools can be too much like being at school and studying A Levels at sixth form college etc. is a good way to branch out.

mopandsmiff · 08/09/2026 12:53

I’m sorry OP but his contemptuous attitude and disrespectful behaviour towards his teachers comes across as highly unpleasant. Deliberately mucking about in class and failing tests, knowing his parents are worried and being called into school meetings, just so that he can stick his middle finger up at the teachers on results day as some sort of petty revenge?
And this behaviour is then rewarded to the tune of thousands of pounds.
Quite a few young men are insufferable and grow out of it, so there is hope yet. He needs a few life lessons in respect and humility if you ask me. I think I’d be pushing him towards the military. Plenty of engineering opportunities to be had, and they’ll pay for his degree too (not that it sounds like money is a problem).

Denim4ever · 08/09/2026 12:55

Regarding pupil attitude. Whilst it's not ideal, as a parent one might think that OPs DS is a high achiever who had been failed by a school. It happens.

MajorProcrastination · 08/09/2026 13:10

TheJuryIsOut · 08/09/2026 09:59

Come on now let's be fair, the poor kid has only been to Australia, Japan, Singapore, America, African safaris and everywhere in Europe and he's only been to a cheap school poor thing.

I didn't realise that if I just save for a couple of years I could go on safaris and fly across the world regularly rather than a weekend in a caravan in Blackpool. I can't believe I've been unnecessarily missing out all these years.

Only. 😂Poor dab. Silly me.

alcovecupboards · 08/09/2026 13:22

MajorProcrastination · 08/09/2026 09:41

Right so this is big information compared to your initial introduction of some kid with just a part time job in Waitrose. If he managed to save up £5k in two months it sounds like his annual income's around the same as an average UK adult. AND he gets a free £45k on top of that for getting good grades? Bloody hell. How the other half live.

Two different children... Do people not read anymore?!

Skodacool · 08/09/2026 15:20

I think it would have been better if they’d discussed it with you and DH before giving DS such a huge amount to give you the chance to suggest maybe giving him an allowance rather than all at once. It looks, however, as though your DH would have vetoed that.

Swipe left for the next trending thread