To think these sporting events should be banned?

Im an F1 fan and agree that (despite all the changes made) motorsport is not a climate friendly activity.

But agree with pp why are you singling out that particular event? Harry Styles is part way through a 30 day residency at MSG. Do you think everyone there is from New York, and going to walk there?

And as for buying 10 bottles of water, that may be due to a lot of stadiums, or events not allowing people to bring in their own food and drink, and in some cases not allowing refillable water bottles. Maybe that should be changed?

YABVU. If you want to live a miserable life not exploring far places or enjoying fun events then you do you, but you can’t force the rest of the world to as well.

And the multiple water bottles is 100% on your niece. You can refill a water bottle at f1 events very easily.

MotoGP. Superbikes.

And a large number of American sports - hockey, baseball, basketball - involve multiple rounds, many with rich men travelling by private jet, will do huge amounts of miles over a year.

And when it comes to negative impact climate wise golf is one of the worst sports for the planet.

I'm a big environmentalist. I haven't flown since 2019, electric car, vegan etc.

Big sporting events is not the place to focus right now. Maybe eventually some changes can be made to reduce the footprint but outright banning I can't see.

Fair enough, but go down this road and you're going to have to stop football too, it's the biggest sporting contributor to global warming. I think you've just picked up on a couple of random facts and run with them without thinking about it. Or are you just anti F1 for some reason? Or is it all motor sport? Or all international motor sport? Or people who travel for sport? Or people who travel a certain way for their sport? Or people who travel a certain distance each year for their sport?

These things are microscopic compared to burning fossil fuels across the globe. Or, I hear, Musk wanting to launch 2 million satellites into orbit.

And you could tell most of the crowd were Italian with how much they celebrated that Antonwlli won - your niece must have not heard properly or been in a different area to the Italians.

Absolutely not,just because you don't see the point in it doesn't mean it shouldn't happen! Many people across formula one are tying to do as much as they can to reduce the impact on the environment.

No. Don’t be stupid.

The crowd at most f1 races are not all that international. Yes, some people travel for a race and others might attend one if they happen to be in a particular country when a race is on, but a Grand Prix is not like a World Cup or the Olympics. Most of the crowd at a circuit are from that country or close neighbours. Monaco is obviously a bit of an exception, but the crowd are still mostly European there. At somewhere like Suzuka there’s very few international fans. Hundreds of thousands of people are not jetting around the world to watch.

F1 is actually a fairly small scale sport, with relatively few people involved. Its carbon footprint pales into insignificance compared to something like football. More players play in one single football match than drive in a formula one weekend. Next weekend there are 9 matches in the premier league alone, with fans travelling to watch. Add in another 12 championship matches and then multiply that by the number of countries around the world with an equivalent football culture and you’ll start to realise the relative scale of their carbon footprints. That before we even get onto world cups, euros, champions league, international friendlies etc that involve international travel.

It seems really odd to single out f1 rather than sports that are much larger in scale with far bigger carbon footprints .

Actively working on (and doing a really good job) of mitigating the impact on the environment isn’t good enough? I think you had impossibly high standards. Unless we wipe out international travel for any reason at all then F1 is a drop in the ocean. The amount of international business and leisure travel on any one day across the planet probably eclipses a whole F1 season by quite some way.

It is not 404000 individual people. Some attending (most) will have been counted three times, once for each of the days. And in every Grand Prix the vast majority of people there are from the country where it’s being held, and especially in Italy where motorsport is practically a religion.

I admire your passion about it, but you’ve picked a very oddly specific set of people to aim at.

How about concerts and gigs?

For example Taylor Swift.

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Very much do as I say, not as I do.

So very condescending.

No it’s not 404,000 people attending, a person attending all 3 days would be counted 3 times!

Because F1 repeats that almost every weekend. It does have a particularly ridiculous carbon footprint.

But no-one ever explains things to the level of what sports or hobbies will need to be banned to slow down climate change v the effect on the sum of human happiness/the global economy now.

I think BLANK needs to banned immediately -I have no interest in it nor do my family but why should people be allowed to follow or travel to BLANK it’s a disgrace -write to your Mp it needs to be stopped -how dare people have interests and hobbies

I think they should try to fix golf before they ban anything. It’s horrendous for the environment, wipes out biodiversity, reduces the photosynthesis capacity of the land and uses loads of water. Of course all the heads of state are golfers so it will never happen.

There were a huge number of Italians there, Ferrari is practically a religion (not that they did that well) but an Italian won the F1 and the crowds were ecstatic. Most of the personnel and drivers go by regular flights, one or two drivers do sometimes travel by private jet at their own expense, but most of them live in Europe and a few in Italy anyway and the equipment is mainly sent by sea freight to distant venues. They are also developing green fuels and electric hybrid engines that will all filter down to road vehicles eventually.

It was also a huge event, there wasn't just the F1, there was the F2, F3 and other supporting races as well as entertainment, etc, etc.

Hope she had a good time, but it sounds like it wasn't her sort of thing and it was hot. By all means she needn't go again.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/formula-1-on-track-to-be-net-zero-by-2030-with-26-reduction-in-carbon.4p2vZMDrgDu6lVHLvOcLPy

They’re aware of the impact and have been working on it for years with a net zero aim that they’re well on the way to meeting. The technological developments in F1 with the hybrid engines lead to developments in the motor industry in general, with a trickle down effect. Audi in particular became involved with developing their own F1 engine specifically because of the electric engine components.

404000 didn’t make the journey there. That’s total attendance for the weekend, not individuals who attended. And the vast majority of them are Italian (for the Monza race).

Do you walk or cycle to your UK holidays?

Also, you say you tend not to, you don't say you won't holiday abroad, in other words you do.

Such utter hypocrisy.

No of course not.

Tax the polluting parts of it and use the tax to offset (or more than offset) the carbon impact.

Banning things when there are much much less intrusive options available is authoritarian and wrong.

Even a holiday in the UK is not essential travel @idontfeelgoodaboutthis, unless you cycle there it's still hypocritical.