AIBU to want payment for fitted items left in my rental?

That’s my thinking, too. Did you have permission to make permanent alterations?

I'm a LL and you'd have got to have written permission to install an additional toilet and I put in all my contracts house must be restored to original state when tenant leaves. If you want the curtain rails go and fetch them.

Oh I've just realised that you've already left! Well - in that case I would forget all about it and keep quiet in case the landlord sends you a bill for the costs for removing the items and returning to original condition! This is a genuine risk

What?

You rented a property. Added fixtures. And now you want the next tenant to pay for them?

I genuinely don't understand.

I rented a house. Replaced all of the carpets. So that I lived in a house with decent carpets. I didnt even ask the landlord to pay for those...they were for my benefit. (I had permission before anyone asks!) Let alone the next tenant.

Did you ask the landlord about fitted wardrobes and toilet before you fitted them?

The landlord has every right to ask you to remove them at your own expense so that the property looks how it did when you initially rented it.

The curtain rails you are being very petty over - don’t embarrass yourself further by going on about payment for them unless they are worth ££££’s.

The new tenants viewed the property as seen so unless these items were pointed out as extra if they wanted them then there is no reason for them to pay for them.

This should have all been sorted out with the landlord before you left the property.

When moving on from a rental I have asked if the next tenants wanted curtains (odd shaped window, neutral colour, no good to me in next house, useful to them) and checked it was fine but I felt I'd had my monies worth from them over the years; I felt I was paying it forwards leaving something useful for someone else

I didn't send them a bill.

I rented for many years and have also been a landlord… have never heard of any tenant installing an extra loo! Madness.

Sorry op but I’d see them as belonging to the house- we’ve left wardrobes, a washing machine and a dryer when we moved from different rentals. And new tenants probably won’t have the money to be paying for something they assumed was part of the house!!

Maybe they hate your fitted wardrobes? The seller of my current home wanted to me to pay for some fitted units, they were not my style at all, I would have kept them as a favour so he didn't have the hassle of removing them and I could swap them out later, but absolutely no way was I paying for items not to my taste. In the end he took about half of it and left the rest.

I wouldn’t be purchasing the 2nd hand toilet as part of my rental 😂

Are you happy to remove them and make good when removed. You put in a loo!

You couldn’t be arsed to put the property back to how you found it and you want other people to pay for that? Really?

Yep, sunk cost. (Or money down the loo?)

Lay low op or the landlord could ask you to return it to its previous condition if the mood so took them

No they definitely shouldn't pay. You need to remove the items & return it to the condition it was when you starting renting.

Or if the landlord agrees you could leave the items behind.

The landlord could take the cost of removing the items & returning to original condition out of your deposit.

Neither the landlord or new tenant should be paying you for these.

This is nothing to do with the new tenants. It's down to the agreement between you and the landlord. Did the landlord agree to pay you for the additions to their property? Because if you wanted paying, only they can reasonably be expected to do that if pre agreed. Otherwise it's on you to leave the property as you found it - ie remove the items and make good. Your best bet is to tell the landlord that you'll be doing that unless they would like to pay. Ask them to let the new tenants know. Then the new tenants (who I expect thought these items were included..) might be unhappy, so the landlord may cough up.

You have two options, pay to put everything back to how it was, or leave them for free. Did you have permission to do these things?

If you paid for them to be fitted, are you not responsible for removing them and fixing any damage to put right whats been removed if the landlord decides they don't want them in the property anymore?
They might say that if the new tenants say they don't want to pay, and the landlord doesn't want to pay

If thats the case, I'd just keep quiet. Its a spent cost anyway as you've already had the items put in place

If you install items into a rental property then I don’t think you can expect money back from either the landlord or next tenant (unless the landlord has explicitly asked/agreed for them to be installed and stated that they’ll pay for the replacement/upgrade).

Your options are to either remove the items you installed when you move out and return the property to the same state it was when you moved in (which might involve filling holes/repainting/replacing tiles etc if the fittings you used have caused damage). Or accept that you had the benefit whilst you lived there and that was worth the money you paid.

It's got nothing to do with new tenants what you've done to the place.
You can try to ask the landlord if they will pay for improvements to the property, however they're more within their rights to charge you what it would cost to put back to the opening inventory.

Well you could take the curtain poles with you but the toilet and wardrobes will be almost impossible to remove without damaging the property. New tenants can’t be made to pay for things that don’t belong to them. If anyone is paying it’s the landlord. What was the agreement with them when you put it in.?

Or….

they don’t want them/can’f afford it,

when we bought our last house the sellers offered that we could buy the curtains for ten grand.

we said no.

The landlord could make you pay to put things back how they were.

Unfortunately that's not how rentals work. Don't make expensive permanent changes to a house that's not yours if you're not prepared to swallow the cost.

Okay. Just going to say this. Fitting an additional loo…?

If you take them out you'll have to fix any plastering/painting and flooring that's now uneven etc, is it worth the hassle? No they shouldn't have to pay, but if they've viewed, the landlord needs to let them know that the items aren't included.