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AIBU to want payment for fitted items left in my rental?

181 replies

Maurit · Yesterday 17:54

I just left a rental and left behind three items I had fitted: an extra loo, fitted wardrobes and 4 curtain rails. I asked the landlord to message the new tenants that I was happy to leave these provided they pay a small fee for each - much less than they cost to me. They don’t want to do that and the landlord is suggesting I just leave the items as less hassle than taking them out. AIBU in thinking that the new tenants are just joy riding on this, knowing that they’ll get access to the items for no fee? .

OP posts:
Andylion · Yesterday 18:39

Notmybestusername · Yesterday 18:38

I just need more info on this second toilet. I have so many questions

I know someone who installed a very tiny powder room in the front hallway closet when one of their relatives could no longer manage the stairs to the bathrooms. I imaginethis is a similar scenario.

Secretseverywhere · Yesterday 18:39

I think you have to leave them as you’d need to “make good” yhe damage removing them would cause which would bb probsbly cost more thsn they are worth.

Im struggling with the extra loo though it was quite expensive when I put in a second loo. Removing it would be a faff as I extended waste pipe.

Heronwatcher · Yesterday 18:39

Also as others have said, if these are improvements to the property and the landlord agreed to you doing them surely the landlord should be paying? At best the new tenants have a right to use them for a limited time.

Littlebitpsycho · Yesterday 18:39

Don't add fixtures and fittings to a rental unless you are happy to walk away. There is no obligation for either the landlord or new tenant to 'buy' them from you.

Either leave them and forget about what they cost, or take them with you and make good any damage caused by doing so. Lesson learnt 🤷‍♀️

Ilikesundays · Yesterday 18:38

Did your landlord agree to your installing these items? Did you make any arrangement with him/her about what would happen when you left? It looks as if you installed them at your own risk and now will have to leave them in situ or remove them and make good any damage.

Greenseacat · Yesterday 18:38

Why on earth should the new tenants pay?

You chose to install these items and if you can't take them with you it is not the tenants' problem.

Have some common sense.

In fact the landlord could ask you to remove that stuff and put the property as it was when you signed up to rent it. So consider yourself lucky that they have not said they would take the money out of your deposit to restore the property to its initial condition.

Notmybestusername · Yesterday 18:38

Andylion · Yesterday 18:36

The landlord has every right to ask you to remove them at your own expense so that the property looks how it did when you initially rented it.

I am just imagining what would happen if the OP actually did that, and then the new tenants moved in, looked around and saw they were one down loo. They agreed to rent it with a certain number of bathrooms.

I just need more info on this second toilet. I have so many questions

gamerchick · Yesterday 18:38

You'll need to return it to it's original condition or write it off. Why you did that stuff to a house that wasn't yours is beyond me.

babasaclover · Yesterday 18:38

This is so made up 🙈🙈🙈

TurkishShepherd · Yesterday 18:38

I work for a huge housing org.
If tenants do work, it either stays or they remove the items and pay for rectification to return the house to the state they found it.

If it's badly fitted/damaged/unsafe and we have to remove it, they pay the rectification cost.

I think this is pretty standard & sensible.

Your assertion that new tenants are profiteering because of your freely-made choice to invest in someone else's property is interesting but unfair.

I'd tell you to come and get your toilet!

Heronwatcher · Yesterday 18:37

How the hell did you fit an additional loo?

Maybe they hate the additions or just can’t afford it?

A couple of times I have had sellers of houses try to flog their horrible outdated furniture/ carpets/ curtains to me for a fortune and had to politely decline, but at least they owned the place! I always either had something better myself or would frankly rather have lived in a bare room…

hididdlyho · Yesterday 18:37

It doesn't make sense to try to charge the new tenants. Even if they were daft enough to pay, where would it end? Would they then charge the tenants after them for the items?

Andylion · Yesterday 18:36

The landlord has every right to ask you to remove them at your own expense so that the property looks how it did when you initially rented it.

I am just imagining what would happen if the OP actually did that, and then the new tenants moved in, looked around and saw they were one down loo. They agreed to rent it with a certain number of bathrooms.

Toottooot · Yesterday 18:36

Don’t forget to bill them for any wallpapering/painting you might have done. Or better still strip all the walls back whilst you rip oot the wardrobes etc.

BrokenWingsCantFly · Yesterday 18:36

You want a tenant to pay for the extra loo you put in? That's crazy.

You made the choice to put in permanent fixtures into a rented house (Loo and fitted wardrobe). That is nothing to do with the new tenant, why would they want to pay out for things they cant take with them when they move.

As for the curtain rails, take them with you if you like them. They are not hard to remove & refit, they might not even be to the new tenants taste

Besidemyselfwithworry · Yesterday 18:34

outerspacepotato · Yesterday 17:58

Go get your things. As a new tenant, no way would I be paying for stuff you left behind.

This
when we rented it was “rented for x £ a month as was seen” not “oh by the way the tennants own x y z they want paying for them” this is mental

my colleague said that she rented a place once and the current tenant had put up really lovely made to measure blinds and the agent emailed her before she signed the tenancy agreement and said ex tenant said they want £xxxx for these blinds. My colleague said she’s not paying she viewed the house with them in and that if anyone should pay for them it should be the landlord. Colleague moved in and the blinds were all there as they weren’t much good for anywhere else as they were made to be measure! Some people are just chancers! X

PepsiBook · Yesterday 18:29

Why would they pay? It's not your house but you chose to add something to it whilst you lived there. If you bought a new carpet you would not expect them to pay... Surely?

Ponderingwindow · Yesterday 18:26

The landlord is doing you a favor by not charging you for not restoring the place to its original state.

We have made changes to rentals in the past. Always with permission and always knowing we would not be reimbursed in any way.

Blondeshavemorefun · Yesterday 18:24

Where’s the extra loo ?

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · Yesterday 18:24

Of course the new tenants shouldn't pay a penny. They might only be there for 6 months. It was silly to spend money on improving a property that wasn't yours, but any negotiation would be with the landlord to ask them to contribute, as it's their property and they who get the permanent benefit of what you spent, but the time to negotiate would have been before you spent the money. The landlord would be within their rights to insist you revert the property to its original state at your own expense, so has no motive to pay you money not to do so.

Notmybestusername · Yesterday 18:22

Is this one where the Op never returns?

ColdAsAWitches · Yesterday 18:21

You have an insane way of thinking! All those items are 100% your responsibility. There is no legal, ethical, moral or financial obligation on the landlord for these, never mind the next tenants What possessed you to install a new toilet in a rented property without discussing it with the landlord?

Itsthewoluff · Yesterday 18:20

Did you get your deposit back? You should have sorted all this with your LL before you left.
You don’t have a leg to stand on now.

AgnesX · Yesterday 18:20

Why did you add a toilet? If the existing toilet was broken (the only reason I can think of where you would replace it) why didn't the landlord fix it?

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Yesterday 18:17

You can want whatever you like - you won't be getting it though 😂