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Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

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MumofCandR · Yesterday 11:53

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

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EasternStandard · Yesterday 19:01

Switchnow · Yesterday 19:00

Ukraine don’t have a history of what? They are literally at war fighting for their history.

On this Ukrainians are on humanitarian visas here, and were vetted.

Switchnow · Yesterday 19:00

Dersie · Yesterday 18:59

Ukrainians do not have a history nor do they feel its acceptable to rape or attack uk women and children upon their arrival

Ukraine don’t have a history of what? They are literally at war fighting for their history.

Dersie · Yesterday 18:59

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:17

Yes because it’s about tiny numbers of people fleeing problems we the UK and others have started in their home countries. The people making these protests when interviewed make white supremacist statements and can’t explain why Ukrainian refugees are different

Ukrainians do not have a history nor do they feel its acceptable to rape or attack uk women and children upon their arrival

Pineneedlesincarpet · Yesterday 18:58

Stairlifter · Yesterday 18:44

Jesus Christ. A huge net across the sea?

What an amazing, practical and not at all completely ridiculous suggestion!

Let's spend untold billions of pounds rigging up a net that would somehow stop dinghies but let the hundreds of ferries and merchant ships which use the Channel every day pass freely through without disruption. Why didn't we think of that before??

The thing is, stopping the boats is hard. Nobody wants them. The government would love nothing more than to stop them. But it's really very difficult, and the overstretched military probably have better things to be doing.

Nobody knows how to stop them, least of all these balaclava wearing thugs.

A net across the sea was slightly tongue in cheek. As I hoped I made clear by saying luckily Im not in charge. But gorgeous of you to give it your wise assessment as to the prospects of success 🤣.

The main role of government is to defend the country. And many people have described the influx of undocumented males from countries we have recently been at war with and who may not have our best interests at heart as an invasion. I think at this stage, given the government has clearly failed in defending our borders and doesn't seem to have the intention or will to do much about it, the military are entirely appropriate and a perfectly good use of their time. They can check what the Russian subs going through the Channel are up to at the same time.

Switchnow · Yesterday 18:55

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Yesterday 18:51

Yes, that's what makes me uncomfortable, and why I would think they weren't safe to be around.
They're not "protecting women and children" at all.
Only the ones they think worthy of saving which sickens me.
If you're white and think they stand for all women's safety, you're deluded.

I suspect that pp hadn’t realised the significance of that point at all, and just thought we’d all share her view since ‘white women and children’ have been harmed by immigrant men. Actually we don’t know the ethnicity of all the women who’ve been sexually assaulted by immigrant men, and we never will because they have a lifelong right to anonymity. I wonder why they assume that only white women and girls are at risk.

Dersie · Yesterday 18:54

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:35

Serious criminals who can’t just fly in on private jet??

No they dont have any money for private jets, why do you think they want to come here!!? Dear or dear

WinterGold · Yesterday 18:53

Switchnow · Yesterday 18:43

https://x.com/jimthegiant/status/2096534855009902787

Looks like Tommo has admitted he was paid to set this up, and the funds are linked to some interesting characters.

Anyone who thinks this is about stopping the boats or protecting UK citizens is wrong. Paid for disruption is never about citizens, it’s always about power.

It always is.

The same as BLM was and the current Pro Palestinian marches are. People being manipulated and fed distorted information by third parties intent on creating anarchy and disruption.
Take an element of truth, put a spin on it, add a bit of shock/horror and rely on the fact that very few will actually check facts and will join up in the mistaken belief they are doing something positive.

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Yesterday 18:51

Switchnow · Yesterday 18:33

And as a black British woman with mixed race daughters and a son, I would not feel comfortable being in the street, or a train carriage, with silent, balaclava clad men, or knowing my children were. And if you think my comfort matters less than yours, I’d consider you a white supremacist.

Yes, that's what makes me uncomfortable, and why I would think they weren't safe to be around.
They're not "protecting women and children" at all.
Only the ones they think worthy of saving which sickens me.
If you're white and think they stand for all women's safety, you're deluded.

connie26 · Yesterday 18:50

MumofCandR · Yesterday 11:53

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

Ridiculous to say KKK vibes. People have simply had enough of the government not listening or doing anything about the boat situation. When pamphlets are being produced to try and explain that women and girls should not be raped, it's obvious that we've completely lost control. I feel sad and anxious every day about the dreadful state this wonderful country is becoming. The Dover protesters are masked because anyone who dares try to stand up for their country risks being banged up in jail. Unless we have a government who starts looking after it's citizens, people are going to become increasingly angry.

Switchnow · Yesterday 18:48

Dersie · Yesterday 18:45

You just called me a white supremacist, you are oddly making this a race thing, when i was just commenting on being very concerned about illegal men coming into the the country without documentation, men that can and have been violent to a lot of white women and white children, which is a fact.
Stick with the topic

No, I said ‘if you believe X, then I would consider you a white supremacist’.

The men you believe you have so much in common with have highly probably been violent to white women.

You say it’s not about race for you and yet you only mention being worried about harm to white women and children.

Again, tell me how any of that makes me ‘extremely racist’?

Dersie · Yesterday 18:48

MumofCandR · Yesterday 18:33

If that's the case I pity you and nothing can be done for you.

Youll be ok though, I have a feeling.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 18:47

Baldrapunzel · Yesterday 17:35

It does. But numerous posters appear to believe that if we rid the country of immigrants it will be a land of milk and honey. I was just pointing out that there are many regions where it's not immigrants who are poisoning communities.

Whataboutery

I live in an area where a certain white group cause issues. It doesn't stop me from caring about what's happening in the rest of the country though. Plus, we have our own influx of migrants, so
there's twice as much to worry about now.

Dersie · Yesterday 18:45

Switchnow · Yesterday 18:38

Please tell me how I’m ‘extremely racist’?

You just called me a white supremacist, you are oddly making this a race thing, when i was just commenting on being very concerned about illegal men coming into the the country without documentation, men that can and have been violent to a lot of white women and white children, which is a fact.
Stick with the topic

Stairlifter · Yesterday 18:44

Pineneedlesincarpet · Yesterday 18:33

Well they built the nightingale hospitals without a single shot being fired as far as I'm aware. Perhaps they would build some electronic warning system in the channel or a huge net across the dividing line. Who knows? Luckily I'm not in charge of thinking of something. The important thing is that the military seems to be wheeled out when the apparatus of civilian government is failing. Which it clearly is. As the military do a proper effective job.

Jesus Christ. A huge net across the sea?

What an amazing, practical and not at all completely ridiculous suggestion!

Let's spend untold billions of pounds rigging up a net that would somehow stop dinghies but let the hundreds of ferries and merchant ships which use the Channel every day pass freely through without disruption. Why didn't we think of that before??

The thing is, stopping the boats is hard. Nobody wants them. The government would love nothing more than to stop them. But it's really very difficult, and the overstretched military probably have better things to be doing.

Nobody knows how to stop them, least of all these balaclava wearing thugs.

Baldrapunzel · Yesterday 18:44

Gloriia · Yesterday 18:36

They clearly don't want to be identified by trolls/nutters who will incorrectly label them 'far right' or'KKK' and try to destroy their lives. Why not Dover? People protest anywhere it doesn't have to be in the exact spot that dinghies arrive y'know.

But that doesn't explain why they were all dressed exactly the same all in black. They could have all worn jeans and a blue t-shirt, or beige shorts and a white t-shirt. Or a mix of colours and clothing. But no, all black is far more intimidating.

And as for people protesting anywhere, all they did was inconvenience fellow citizens trying to do a day's work, or perhaps heading off on a much anticipated holiday. That's not going to win them any support.

5128gap · Yesterday 18:43

GaaNeen · Yesterday 18:31

I take your point that racists WILL be anti boats
and that not all anti boats people are racists
thanks

Thank you. If only those pretending that everyone who protests the boats is a harmless upright citizen took it too.
I would like to see an end to the small boat crossings. I think you'd struggle to find anyone who wouldn't. Even those who actively support asylum seekers don't want them to arrive this way.
But those who refuse to accept that concern about immigration has been hijacked by some extremely dangerous bad actors and condemn them where they appear, is at best naive and at worst complicit.

Notonthestairs · Yesterday 18:43

Baldrapunzel · Yesterday 18:37

Oh lord, I didn't realise it was those 2 scrotes behind the protest. I thought they were in France, asking for (and being given) money to finance them posing in front of, then stabbing, dinghies.

Banned from France I think.

Switchnow · Yesterday 18:43

https://x.com/jimthegiant/status/2096534855009902787

Looks like Tommo has admitted he was paid to set this up, and the funds are linked to some interesting characters.

Anyone who thinks this is about stopping the boats or protecting UK citizens is wrong. Paid for disruption is never about citizens, it’s always about power.

JimmyTheGiant (@jimthegiant) on X

Danny Tommo, the man who organised yesterdays blackshirts rally, openly telling us a foreign American think tank wired him £30k for his very first street protest. Foreign money is propping up the British far right

https://x.com/jimthegiant/status/2096534855009902787

Pange79 · Yesterday 18:43

watchinginhorror · Yesterday 16:14

My friend’s brother has been in prison since before PA were designated as a terrorist organisation. I’m not sure what he did, other than attend a protest. It seems neither are the government as they haven’t brought him to trial as there is nothing a jury can convict him of.

Seems you can be kept in custody after being charged but without going to court for up to 182 days but they can apply for an extension. Is that what happened?

Greenmouldycheese · Yesterday 18:42

metameta · Yesterday 18:40

it was a genuine question. I find it interesting that you haven’t answered it.

Stop lying.

metameta · Yesterday 18:40

Greenmouldycheese · Yesterday 18:29

Have you bothered following the news over the past few years or do you pick and choose what you pay attention to? Their behaviour has been disgusting. Search it.

it was a genuine question. I find it interesting that you haven’t answered it.

Switchnow · Yesterday 18:38

Dersie · Yesterday 18:36

Then you would be very wrong, but you are extremely racist

Please tell me how I’m ‘extremely racist’?

Baldrapunzel · Yesterday 18:37

Notonthestairs · Yesterday 18:30

Daniel Thomas has quite the background.

Thomas – who goes by the name Danny Tommo – was handed a two-year sentence in 2016 for an attempted kidnap after targeting the wrong man. He and two others arrived at the victim’s home in Hampshire armed with knives. Portsmouth Crown Court heard how they punched him, pinned him against a wall, grabbed and pulled his T-shirt, trying to force him from his home. But their victim resisted, clinging to the door frame. The bungling perpetrators fled in a car, shouting: “We’ll be back.” However, realising they had got the wrong person, one of the trio later sent the victim a Facebook message apologising.
Meanwhile, Thomas was said to have made inflammatory comments online in the wake of last year’s attack on a children’s dance class in Southport. Hope Not Hate (HNH) says on its website: “Daniel Thomas (AKA Danny Tommo), Tommy Robinson’s associate... shared a video in the hours after the Southport attack claiming that ‘we need to do something very extreme’ and ‘every city needs to go up’. Two days later, Thomas would lead a demonstration at Whitehall at which more than 100 people would be arrested.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/flag-chiefs-migrant-sabotage-tommy-36326862.amp

Oh lord, I didn't realise it was those 2 scrotes behind the protest. I thought they were in France, asking for (and being given) money to finance them posing in front of, then stabbing, dinghies.

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:36

Switchnow · Yesterday 18:33

And as a black British woman with mixed race daughters and a son, I would not feel comfortable being in the street, or a train carriage, with silent, balaclava clad men, or knowing my children were. And if you think my comfort matters less than yours, I’d consider you a white supremacist.

Absolutely agree ..imagine not understanding what that clothing choice means in addition to racist chants

GaaNeen · Yesterday 18:36

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:31

It’s all mega divide and rule distraction from the very wealthy extracting wealth and asset stripping out countries ….in old folk homes profits, sewage in every river but 100 of millions of profits extracted to share holders and more. It’s a ‘look over here, be afraid’ distraction. I live by a migrant dispersal centre and see nothing but contribution and participation ..vibrant interesting additions to our society.

Unless we have gone mad as a society and claim we don’t have home grown vile rapists and murderers too?

Thanks - I appreciate your response, I’m
taking your insights on board 👍