Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

Except pro-Palestine protestors have been rounded up and left to rot in prison until the government is able to do away with juries because they haven’t actually committed any crime. Yesterday’s lot sauntered off home in time for the 3pm kick offs.

But again, we live in a country governed by the rule of law. Yes, you have the right to protest. For example, heckling a politician at a party conference is well within your rights of free speech. But if you are planning a march or mass gathering, you need to notify the police so they are able to properly allocate resources for your and the public’s safety and you cannot block national infrastructure. Whether you are left or right wing - that’s the law of this land, and there have been, for example, climate activists sent to jail for breaking it.

Even Reform have condemned these men at Dover, so I’m surprised to see anyone defending their behaviour.

But again, we live in a country governed by the rule of law. Yes, you have the right to protest. For example, heckling a politician at a party conference is well within your rights of free speech. But if you are planning a march or mass gathering, you need to notify the police so they are able to properly allocate resources for your and the public’s safety and you cannot block national infrastructure. Whether you are left or right wing - that’s the law of this land, and there have been, for example, climate activists sent to jail for breaking it.

Even Reform have condemned these men at Dover, so I’m surprised to see anyone defending their behaviour.

The pro Palestine protesters have shown them the way.

Was there public disorder or not?

Not necessarily balaclavas, but certainly plenty of keffiyahs pulled up to obscure their faces and serve the same purpose.

At least they're protesting about something that is happening in the UK and not something that is happening in the Middle East. The majority of UK citizens want the boats stopping.

Bollocks! I havent seen pro palestine demonstrators with balaclavas on. When the police are busy arresting 70 year old women who are sat on the pavement holding a piece of cardboard those women are definitely not hiding their faces - probably because they aren't cowards.

Those thugs in Dover dont dare show their faces - how very brave of them 🙄🙄

My next door neighbour went and he is an accountant, one of his brothers is an orthopaedic surgeon and the other is a physicist.

What happened to free speech that's currently being discussed on the Reform conference thread? It's make it up as you go along with freedom of assembly as well. Nobody was listening to Jews when they were threatened by the violent Palestinian marchers. As for the KKK reference, oh please.

The sight of them made my sad heart soar.

At last, England roars.

Freedom to protest is absolutely sacrosanct - covering faces with balaclavas is not protesting it's thuggery. Every protest in the last few years has not had that, that's a statement not based on fact. Your post has a tone of cynical whataboutery.

Hardly. You do know that they weren’t all white men don’t you? My next door neighbour went with his brothers and they are Nigerian. Born in Nigeria by the way. He moved here in his early 20s. He has the St George’s flag flying on a flagpole in his back garden.

This. People are generally very concerned about the continuing numbers of unvetted, young men coming from various countries where their cultural “values” are so different to ours.

these people are unskilled, uneducated and are very likely to be net takers from a UK that is already massively struggling financially. Servicing the UK debt is costing more than defence I believe! We simply cannot afford to accommodate all these people and there is the added danger from these men who have no understanding of consent it seems.

I’ve been saying for ages that I fear we will see increasing civil unrest and more right wing extremism. I really feel for the hard working migrant families that have made a life here who may now be targeted because of the problems caused by the small boat influx.

But of course, voicing these concerns makes me racist and no government seems willing or able to really tackle the influx.

My next door neighbour went and he is an accountant, one of his brothers is an orthopaedic surgeon and the other is a physicist.

"these people are unskilled, uneducated and are very likely to be net takers from a UK that is already massively struggling financially. Servicing the UK debt is costing more than defence I believe! We simply cannot afford to accommodate all these people and there is the added danger from these men who have no understanding of consent it seems."

Seemingly a perfect description of yesterday's comedy troupe of easily-led idiots in black 🤡

It does feel very threatening and I would feel very uncomfortable being anywhere near them. Religious reasons apart, people only cover their faces and heads when they do not wish to be identified, presumably because know they are doing, or will be tempted to do, something illegal and ominous. I find all this far right behaviour very disturbing.

Having an opinion on world affairs is absolutely legitimate-
but saying people who are protesting for an issue in their community are thick is a stretch too far, when the issue does not impact you -