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Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

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MumofCandR · Yesterday 11:53

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

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Pineneedlesincarpet · Yesterday 16:48

ElizaMulvil · Yesterday 16:31

You do not know that they approve of misogynistic cultures.They may well be leaving precisely because they don't. It is likely that they are being sent on ahead to find a safe route for their families, women and children. It is very dangerous and physically impossible for young children, the old, women etc to cross borders of countries with no functioning government or where their families may already have been targeted by the rebels in a civil war.

In failed States where there is no functioning government people often have no birth certificates or passports. Rival criminal gangs are rife.

We have brought this problem on ourselves by people having no route to apply for asylum until they are physically here. They may well be coming from eg Afghanistan, a country where those who supported us are now in danger of being killed. (They may speak English which would make life easier for them than eg France or Germany. They may already have relations here. )

The next safe country to Afghanistan is Pakistan who have returned a million to Afghanistan where they are now in grave danger, no homes, no means of earning a living. Many will starve.

It is very difficult to imagine the horrors these people have endured. We had the same problems in WW2 where the Government wouldn't allow the opponents of Hitler to enter despite knowing that refusal meant certain death in concentration camps.

Many countries allow asylum seekers to work either immediately or very quickly.eg
Australia, Canada, Sweden, Portugal - almost immediately
Germany after 3 months
Belgium after 4 months
USA, Netherlands after 6 months.
It make no sense to keep them in poverty for years on end when they could /should be contributing to our country and both they and us would benefit.
NB We have a very low birth rate ( which will break this country in the future if we don't do something about it. Annual deaths are projected to outnumber births for the first time in modern history a 'baby bust'.( See the Government list of jobs where there is a shortage btw.)

Asylum seekers allowances.
( £49.18 a week for food, clothing, toiletries. Self catered accommodation £49.18 per person per week, Catered accommodation eg hotels (£9.50 per week. Pregnant women + £5.25 per week, Babies under 1 year old extra £9.50 per week, Children 1-3 extra £5.25 per week.)

Cost Repayment Law
Adults who are granted refugee status and find employment are required to repay upto £10,000 to the Home Office. ( Works similar to student loans. and must be paid off before the person can claim settled status.)

I don't think we need any more legal routes for asylum seekers. We can't afford to support even more people who will be a burden to the state throughout their lives. Otherwise the whole system will collapse and there will be nothing for anyone.

I see we are not even in the top 20 worldwide for GDP/capita. We really are the wrong country for these young, male economic migrants to target.

Jardenalia · Yesterday 16:47

CarbootJunction · Yesterday 14:49

The sight of them made my sad heart soar.

At last, England roars.

Oh grow up! FFS, your idea of England roaring is a bunch of white male losers dressing like the SS? These men are not my England.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:46

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:43

Not seen that racist term for a while.

I think they're going straight to 'Nazi' now. They should save that for last tbh, otherwise they have nowhere else to go. It's a bit sad for them when they run out of insults.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:45

StandFirm · Yesterday 16:44

Brexit is not irrelevant. It has made effective cooperation between the UK and EU countries (specifically France) much more difficult. Both UK and French 'aspiring leaders' Farage and Bardella (President of the French equivalent of Reform) are liars when they signed their worthless MOU this week. It was a photo op. An alliance of nationalist governments across Europe is an oxymoron. It will only ever be driven by self-interest and drive more discord across the board- and bring more chaos down the line, to Putin's delight of course.

Of course they can make an agreement. It’s outside Brexit.

There’s already dealing with the French police, it’s just not going to be as effective.

Septembersunrays · Yesterday 16:45

@StandFirm well Putin is delighted that we keep pull factors to keep migrants coming and he delights in the chaos and weakening of our society and of course it's another revenue stream by washing their money

MrsBunny2018 · Yesterday 16:45

Interesting that there have been 0 arrests as per BBC, as opposed to the 169 arrests made at Notting Hill Carnival. Can't be that thuggish can they?

StandFirm · Yesterday 16:44

Vivi0 · Yesterday 16:33

Have you been to Europe recently?

The UK isn’t even as bad as many European countries…yet.

Brexit is irrelevant.

Brexit is not irrelevant. It has made effective cooperation between the UK and EU countries (specifically France) much more difficult. Both UK and French 'aspiring leaders' Farage and Bardella (President of the French equivalent of Reform) are liars when they signed their worthless MOU this week. It was a photo op. An alliance of nationalist governments across Europe is an oxymoron. It will only ever be driven by self-interest and drive more discord across the board- and bring more chaos down the line, to Putin's delight of course.

Wakemeuuuup · Yesterday 16:43

It should be illegal to hide your face when protesting. If you feel your cause is just, own it

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:43

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:43

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about the decapitate and burn them in oil lot. Charming aren't they? Such hypocrisy.

Have we had 'gammon' yet? I think that one's going out of fashion.

Not seen that racist term for a while.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:43

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:42

I did read the post. Where are the endless insults ?

On any thread really. I’m sure there’s already been a few re IQ below, scroll back.

Septembersunrays · Yesterday 16:43

ElizaMulvil · Yesterday 16:31

You do not know that they approve of misogynistic cultures.They may well be leaving precisely because they don't. It is likely that they are being sent on ahead to find a safe route for their families, women and children. It is very dangerous and physically impossible for young children, the old, women etc to cross borders of countries with no functioning government or where their families may already have been targeted by the rebels in a civil war.

In failed States where there is no functioning government people often have no birth certificates or passports. Rival criminal gangs are rife.

We have brought this problem on ourselves by people having no route to apply for asylum until they are physically here. They may well be coming from eg Afghanistan, a country where those who supported us are now in danger of being killed. (They may speak English which would make life easier for them than eg France or Germany. They may already have relations here. )

The next safe country to Afghanistan is Pakistan who have returned a million to Afghanistan where they are now in grave danger, no homes, no means of earning a living. Many will starve.

It is very difficult to imagine the horrors these people have endured. We had the same problems in WW2 where the Government wouldn't allow the opponents of Hitler to enter despite knowing that refusal meant certain death in concentration camps.

Many countries allow asylum seekers to work either immediately or very quickly.eg
Australia, Canada, Sweden, Portugal - almost immediately
Germany after 3 months
Belgium after 4 months
USA, Netherlands after 6 months.
It make no sense to keep them in poverty for years on end when they could /should be contributing to our country and both they and us would benefit.
NB We have a very low birth rate ( which will break this country in the future if we don't do something about it. Annual deaths are projected to outnumber births for the first time in modern history a 'baby bust'.( See the Government list of jobs where there is a shortage btw.)

Asylum seekers allowances.
( £49.18 a week for food, clothing, toiletries. Self catered accommodation £49.18 per person per week, Catered accommodation eg hotels (£9.50 per week. Pregnant women + £5.25 per week, Babies under 1 year old extra £9.50 per week, Children 1-3 extra £5.25 per week.)

Cost Repayment Law
Adults who are granted refugee status and find employment are required to repay upto £10,000 to the Home Office. ( Works similar to student loans. and must be paid off before the person can claim settled status.)

If they a fleeing the awful sexist culture it's really not helping their cause to leave the women and children behind and if all men left with all females and children they would all be much safer wouldn't they ?

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 16:43

Septembersunrays · Yesterday 16:31

Exactly being weak on it protects no one and helps no one and creates fear.

We/they (gvnmt) really should have saw this coming........

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:43

Gloriia · Yesterday 16:36

Totally agree. Not one arrest and of course they hide their faces lest they get sacked for being 'far right'.
Good for them.
I find trans activists running about in wigs and dresses shouting 'decapitate terfs' and 'burn anyone who disagrees with us' far more threatening.

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about the decapitate and burn them in oil lot. Charming aren't they? Such hypocrisy.

Have we had 'gammon' yet? I think that one's going out of fashion.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:43

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:38

Do they ?

I am left wing working class. And what I see is Reform folk endlessly playing the victim card, with no basis in truth.

It's an electioneering ploy, to yell out "see how they persecute us". With no evidence for this "persecution" presented.

Nobody is talking about persecution. The pp was referring to the usual sneery language aimed at WC not daring to vote Labour. Not to mention the presumptions about intellect. I agree also on the bingo card @smallglassbottle

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:42

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:41

Read the posts here. Endless insults.

I did read the post. Where are the endless insults ?

LocalHobo · Yesterday 16:41

Because of the failure of government to protect us/our borders, I genuinely fear for my friends/colleagues from India, Pakistan and Africa who came here legitimately. I worry they are to become collateral damage with the rise of right.

^ This

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:41

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:38

Do they ?

I am left wing working class. And what I see is Reform folk endlessly playing the victim card, with no basis in truth.

It's an electioneering ploy, to yell out "see how they persecute us". With no evidence for this "persecution" presented.

Read the posts here. Endless insults.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:39

Cherry8809 · Yesterday 16:37

Personally I’d feel a lot safer locked in a room with a bunch of anonymous balaclava-clad right wingers than a bunch of fresh off the boat migrants that we know nothing about 🤷🏻‍♀️

...or the Antifa and Palestine Action Group thugs, who don't think twice about attacking women.

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:38

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:26

Funny how the leftists always have to turn to nasty insults regarding the working class.

Do they ?

I am left wing working class. And what I see is Reform folk endlessly playing the victim card, with no basis in truth.

It's an electioneering ploy, to yell out "see how they persecute us". With no evidence for this "persecution" presented.

Cherry8809 · Yesterday 16:37

Personally I’d feel a lot safer locked in a room with a bunch of anonymous balaclava-clad right wingers than a bunch of fresh off the boat migrants that we know nothing about 🤷🏻‍♀️

Gloriia · Yesterday 16:36

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 16:12

No, not for me. I see citizens at the end of their tether, trying to bring attention to an issue that the government is ignoring. It is unfortunate to it has come to this.
Before the pounce. I’m sure many wanted to call trouble but others want to hid their face while protesting as it’s frowned upon, people are getting arrested for tweeting, they’d definitely lose their job for protesting at Dover.,

Totally agree. Not one arrest and of course they hide their faces lest they get sacked for being 'far right'.
Good for them.
I find trans activists running about in wigs and dresses shouting 'decapitate terfs' and 'burn anyone who disagrees with us' far more threatening.

Vivi0 · Yesterday 16:33

ClaudettedeBeauvoir · Yesterday 15:56

Unfortunately a majority of voters (probably mostly those more likely to support Reform/Restore) voted for the exact conditions which were the catalyst for the small boat trafficking - Brexit.

Have you been to Europe recently?

The UK isn’t even as bad as many European countries…yet.

Brexit is irrelevant.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:32

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:29

I do indeed see. I have my bingo card and it's almost full 😁

😆 🤣

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:31

WinterGold · Yesterday 16:16

I do.

i object to any man or woman covering their face whether for religious or political reasons.

Human interaction relies heavily on facial expressions and non-verbal cues. Masking the face can be seen as creating a barrier to trust, social connection, and integration within a community.

Consequently, I don’t trust anyone who attends a demonstration of any political persuasion who wears a mask. We are in a democracy, you don’t need to hide your face unless you have nefarious reasons.
A woman wearing a burqa is being denied agency; she is being intentionally isolated and denied integration and controlled by men.

Yes fair points. I see more women with faces covered than I have the men the op objects to.

WinterGold · Yesterday 16:31

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:26

Funny how the leftists always have to turn to nasty insults regarding the working class.

Always do.
Won’t be long before the predicable words “ fascist” and “Nazi” are then bandied about.

Godwin’s Law always comes into play eventually.

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/godwins-law

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<p>Godwin's Law is an Internet maxim formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990, which posits that as online debates progress, the likelihood of participants comparing others to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis increases. Godwin's observations stemmed from his experie...

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