Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

This thread is bringing out the bizarre ..antifa …is Dads Army, WW2 allied soldiers it is the fight against fascism and racism…it’s twisting to claim anything else

Matey you can say black is white but it doesn’t make it true. ‘Antifa’ is quite literally, anti fascist.

Yes OP it was disturbing to see.
On the plus side, I think most of the 'ordinary people' who we're constantly being told agree with this sort of thing because the government aren't listening bla bla bla, condemn it too.
Its one thing for people to peaceably make their concerns about immigration known, quite another for a gang of...what do they call them...'fighting age men'...I believe, to rammage through our streets in masks. At worst causing fear at best huge inconvenience to people wanting to travel.
They are in real danger of overplaying their hand with this sort of thing. Most people don't want any gangs of threatening men in their communities.

This doesn't even make sense.
You know absolutely fuck all about "anonymous balaclava clad right wingers" either but you'd feel safe locked in a room with them?!
When their usual schtick is to intimidate or riot in these circumstances, I wouldn't want to be locked up with them.
Even if I'm probably the "right kind" of woman they pretend to care about and protect underneath their masks.
(White, straight, English British etc)
Whereas immigrants will have a wide range of opinions, and personalities - which would feel more safer than a load of right wing "protesters."

No your England is groups of young men coming on small boats to harass young girls. Who believe that the streets are paved with gold. It's women being made into second class citizens. It's the archbishop of Canterbury saying there should be Sharia law in parts of the UK. It's white college students being stabbed, then arrested because they were called racist. It's British soldiers being hacked to death on the streets.

It's children attending a pop concert in Manchester being blown up.

That's your perfect England. It's not mine.

No we wouldn't.
Obviously not all people who are anti the small boat crossings are white supremacists.
But it's a safe enough bet that all white supremacists are anti the small boat crossings, and that they would be highly likely to be amongst the protesters.
These men were masked so we don't know who they are, what they believe or how far they'd go. We've already seen people setting fire to buildings housing immigrants and hurling missiles at homes with children inside.
There are some highly dangerous men who are 'anti small boat crossings' and i can't fathom why you'd want to pretend that they and ordinary people concerned about immigration are one and the same just because they both want to stop the boats.

Which racist coward?

I'm hoping so too because I can't believe someone really thought Antifa were literally anti fascists.

Yes because it’s about tiny numbers of people fleeing problems we the UK and others have started in their home countries. The people making these protests when interviewed make white supremacist statements and can’t explain why Ukrainian refugees are different

She probably thinks they’re grooming gangs

Quite frankly the country is on the brink of civil war. There’s just too many divisions. Multiculturalism can’t work, society cannot withstand being pulled in different directions, the gap between rich and poor is unsustainable in a capitalist society, the effects of technology has left too many without meaning, people are exposed to too many conflicting ideologies too easily. There’s too many people in the country for into resources and infrastructure to support.

Rage and protest are happening across the political spectrum (at least they aren’t attacking female police offficers with hammers )

Ozp by making this a left/right thing you are part of the problem but probably can’t see it because you’ve bought the lie about being part of the “virtuous left”

Danny Tommo has a conviction for an armed kidnapping.
Quite surprised anyone would think of him as a leader.

How are they relevant to the stop the boat supremacist crowd?

Please explain the parallels between protests in Dover and KKK

my understanding is that KKK stood for white supremacy - clearly abhorrent

my understanding is that the Dover protesters are anti- small boat illegally landing with economic migrants

in order to support the parallels theory we would have to say that people who are anti - the channel small boats are white supremacists

my experience is that people who are anti small boats feel that way because they believe that small boats contribute to higher welfare costs / tax rises / crime rates etc -
regardless of being black / brown / white Eastern European etc ….

due people truly think that being anti small boats / illegal entry / loss of border control is paramount to white supremacy ?

What do you think antifa is?

Any view on those op and @Anyahyacinth?

I'm hoping so too because I can't believe someone really thought Antifa were literally anti fascists.

I'm hoping so too because I can't believe someone really thought Antifa were literally anti fascists.

I sense you’re hoping for a break up of the EU, or at least a shrinking. I don’t see that happened. Hungary decisively rejected Orban and Poland will go through the same process. It’s also a bit curious to me to see a woman (presumably) welcoming the rise of the right in those countries when it has brought with it restrictions on women’s rights.

I think we’ll see Europe try to move more collectively on immigration and finding third country solutions, potentially investing in Africa. But if people think there will be a shift towards simply blocking access or mass deportation they’ll be disappointed.