Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

I personally didn’t think of the KKK

but I think it’s very concerning that across Europe we are seeing people taking matters into their own hands and governments increasingly struggling with the issues of immigration and not working together

But that's the problem, the "laws" in Britain don't seem to apply to everyone?? I know first hand that certain "minority groups" are treated differently and was told so by the police officer dealing with the "problem". Yes we have laws but unfortunately the government decides who they do and do not apply to. Saying "if you don't like our laws leave" is a joke now, because the laws are not working.

“Let the people do it”. What? Summary justice for anyone any random balaclaved thug doesn’t like the look of? That’s not the way we do things here in Britain. If you don’t like living with our laws then leave. I’ve heard St Petersburg is nice this time of year.

It’s the black shirts all over again and anyone who can’t see that needs to read up on the conditions that led to WW2. Horrific.

There are cling ons taking advantage of human rights laws. That's why it needs to go.

Its not an extremely difficult problem at all.

Countries in eastern europe - poland, hungary etc - manage very well at keeping these chaps out. Accordingly their towns and cities are much safer for women and girls.

Stop giving them free money, phones, accomodation etc and they will stop coming.

Or see how Australia stopped its problems with boat people - by ramming their boats back into neutral waters, repeatedly, until they get the message that they are not wanted. Or if they managed to land in Oz, forcibly putting them on a boat straight back.

Edit - we could keep out nazi germany, but we cant keep out a bunch of illiterate tribesmen from the 3rd world? Difficult problem? Dont make me laugh!

Well to prevent a conflict of laws. If we want to stay in the ECHR we have to abide by its requirements. If we want to diverge from the ECHR, which many do in order to control illegal immigration, we need to leave it. We can keep the bits of the Human Rights Act (which brings the ECHR into domestic law ) that we like and lose the rest.

International law is an illusion in that it isn't really "law" in that it is directly enforceable in UK courts without Uk legislation. (EU law by contrast did have that direct effect). Its just a convention and countries chose to follow it or not. You cant force another country to follow International law unless you are stronger than it either economically or militarily. So gor example no country currently can force the US to follow any International law. No.military is stronger and its economy could probably withstand sanctions.

What or where is the French equivalent of the RNLI? Why do illegal migrants on boats sometimes only a few metres from the French coast have to be rescued by our services?

Immigrant men have an offending rate similar to British men - in fact somewhat lower.
We would not be supporting them for years if we changed the rules so that they could work as in many other countries. It makes no sense to prevent them working when we have jobs which can't be filled. ( See the Government list of jobs that need filling.)
With the crisis situation we face with a birth rate of 1.39 children per woman, when we need 2.1 children per woman if we are not to have a crisis of underpopulation.
We desperately need people to come here to work so that our elderly can retire at a reasonable age. We can't keep raising the retirement age so that the poorest and those who have been working in unskilled manual labour jobs eg have fewer and fewer years of retirement. Unskilled male life expectancy 71-73, professionals 79-80. How is that right?
( NB Some countries eg China eg allow most women to retire at 55. only the managers retire at 60. Still much younger than we retire!)

Every demonstration that has happened in the last few years everyone has had their faces covered.

Thankfully our country is still a democratic society where within the law, freedom of speech is acceptable.

There are plenty of countries around the world where freedom of speech is not allowed, women rights are non existent, and people are dictated too how they choose to live their lives.

whatever yours or my opinion of these demos, we do have the freedom to protest - be very careful siding with people who want to erode peoples rights

If it’s an illusion why the need to leave the ECHR? As you say, our laws are made here.

Denmark appear to have cracked it too - and their government is Left leaning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1mgkd93r4yo

If it’s an illusion why the need to leave the ECHR? As you say, our laws are made here.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/far-right-afd-wins-historic-victory-in-german-state-election/ar-AA2bFQDB

Our human rights do not come from the ECHR ultimately. They come from laws made by the UK parliament. As mentioned, international law is an illusion.

Its not an extremely difficult problem at all.

Countries in eastern europe - poland, hungary etc - manage very well at keeping these chaps out. Accordingly their towns and cities are much safer for women and girls.

Stop giving them free money, phones, accomodation etc and they will stop coming.

Or see how Australia stopped its problems with boat people - by ramming their boats back into neutral waters, repeatedly, until they get the message that they are not wanted. Or if they managed to land in Oz, forcibly putting them on a boat straight back.

Edit - we could keep out nazi germany, but we cant keep out a bunch of illiterate tribesmen from the 3rd world? Difficult problem? Dont make me laugh!

The government being unable to solve an extremely difficult problem (despite reducing it by 40%) does not make it wholly predictable that a group of balaclava clad vigilantes take to the streets with no actual practical solutions other than to shout 'stop the boats' as if the government hadn't perhaps already thought of that.

The government being unable to solve an extremely difficult problem (despite reducing it by 40%) does not make it wholly predictable that a group of balaclava clad vigilantes take to the streets with no actual practical solutions other than to shout 'stop the boats' as if the government hadn't perhaps already thought of that.

The government being unable to solve an extremely difficult problem (despite reducing it by 40%) does not make it wholly predictable that a group of balaclava clad vigilantes take to the streets with no actual practical solutions other than to shout 'stop the boats' as if the government hadn't perhaps already thought of that.