Aibu feeling uneasy about men taking little girls to the toilet in the womens toilet?

A child young enough to need help in the toilet is a valid use case for the accessible. I also don’t see an issue with a little girl in the mens, so what if sees a chap using a urinal from behind, you can’t really see anything and if she has brothers she’ll be more than familiar with the concept. A man shouldn’t be in the ladies.

Funny story, I went into a public bathroom a few weeks ago with my three year old son - obviously I used the women's - and a little girl of about 6 was waiting for us as we exited the cubicle, arms folded. She had obviously heard me talking to DS and saying good boy etc, and she pointedly told us "the boys' toilets are that way" 🤣 I just smiled and said thank you, but honestly what a girl. She will take no shit from anyone! 🙌

I have no idea how this is even a debate. Men don't belong in female spaces. Young children can go with their parent into the toilets of the parent's gender.

I've never heard of a mum accompanying their son into the men's, why men feel able to free infringe on women's privacy I have no idea.

I honestly think any man looking for an excuse to pop into the ladies is someone to be concerned about.

If there is an available disabled/non-gender toilet available, this would be most people's first choice. However, disabled toilets are higher and can feel a bit daunting with the extra bars, cords and equipment. Men's toilets also smell and this could be off-putting. A very young girl, who is just getting used to using a real toilet, should be in the most comfortable environment possible, and that is usually the women's toilets.

So much of this would be solved in about two hours if venues would just design men's bathrooms like a sensible person - either put the cubicles first so you have to walk past them to get to the out-of-sight urinals, or put saloon doors around the urinals. I have never understood this tbh!

I am absolutely with you. I go into a toilet. Into a cubicle. Lock the door. Finish using the toilet. Leave cubicle and wash hands. There is nothing about this which gives me any concern about what anyone else is doing in the same environment especially not a man with a little girl. The world has gone mad.

It wouldn’t bother me at all. As a disabled person it would bother me more if they used the disabled toilet because potentially someone disabled couldn’t wait and could be made to have an accident they wouldn’t otherwise have had because of someone able bodied using the toilet when they didn’t need to.

A man on his own is clearly not supposed to be there, but a man with a young female child?

She sure as hell doesn’t need to go to the gents!!!

I do care alot. I don’t want to do my business in a cubicle with gaps top and bottom with a man next door, even if he is assisting his daughter. I want privacy as a female, not to be subjected to this.

Op, YANBU to feel uneasy. I was at an event recently and went in to the ladies loo (there was also a separate men’s) and there was a man in there with his daughter at the sinks washing her hands. My immediate reaction was to say out loud “oh!”. I wish I’d said something now and I don’t know why I didn’t in hindsight.

How many women take young sons into the mens?

Cool. But I want to teach my daughter to look for situations that might show risk or danger. So we have very clear rules because it is difficult for a young child to understand nuance. So things like if you ever get lost you approach a policeman, a woman shop worker or a lady with children. Men in women’s loos is wrong. That kind of thing. That way when she’s 6 or 7 and wants to go in by herself she’ll know what doesn’t look right. I don’t want her thinking that’s not right but if a strange man tells me it’s actually ok then it is.

The only males in women's toilets should be young children and cleaners. A very small girl who can't manage in the ladies by herself is not going to be harmed by going into the gents with her father.

This is one of the reasons I love the toilets at our nearest shopping centre. They have family toilets - it’s got two baby changing stations and two toilet cubicles that each have an adult size toilet and small toilet in them. Makes life easier for everyone.

they also have two disabled toilets and two unisex toilets (they have handrails, but are too small for a wheelchair so can’t be disabled toilets) along with the usual women’s and men’s toilets.

Absolute fanny-rot.

My dh takes dd into the men's or into a family changing if there's a loo in there. He would never dream of going into the ladies', he'd feel like it was a creepy thing to do.

My dd is 6 now and can go into the ladies in her own. (It's not much different to going to the loo at school.) I'd be enraged if she was in there and a Dad went in.

Men should not go into the ladies'.

Sensible, practical answer 👍 I get vertigo so if toilets are upstairs I have to use, or ask to use, an accessible toilet.

I don’t care who uses what toilet for whatever reason. it’s a toilet. the stalls are private. so i just don’t care.

My thoughts exactly.

Very entitled, should definitely use the disabled toilet or the baby changing toilet.

It's not remotely "morally wrong" for a man to use the accessible loo to take a daughter to the toilet. It's a perfectly legitimate accessibility need because it's not appropriate for them to use either the mens or the womens. Yes this means there is a higher demand for the accessible loos, that doesn't make it wrong, it means that providers should ensure there are more accessible loos. Accessible loos are not just there for people with physical disabilities but for a huge variety of reasons where the normal provision of men's and women's loos don't work. Their provision shouldn't be rationed or guarded but expanded to meet need.

I don't like it either. When DH was out with DD he'd take her in the men's. Nothing is going to happen to her with him there with her. I took DS into the ladies while we were out until he was about 7. He's insisted on using the men's alone since then.

No little girl should have to go in a men's toilet

I thought disabled toilets were now considered as access toilets. My mum would use one if the alternative was using the stairs as she was scared of falling, but she wasn't disabled. No reason why they shouldn't be used for other various reasons.

Perhaps there wasn't a disabled toilet option? It's tricky as a woman wouldn't necessarily take her young son to the men's toilet but I wouldn't want my young child seeing men at the urinal either.

I don't care which toilet people use, also think men's toilets are ok for little girls. What is the big deal with all of this? There are doors on the cubicles, and we all need to wee and poo, and we are all naked under our clothes.