Aibu feeling uneasy about men taking little girls to the toilet in the womens toilet?

But what is the big deal about men pissing in urinals ? Who bloody cares . A little boy will be exposed to the same sight going in. A few men’s backs facing a urinal . So what ? It’s not that different .

Are you suggesting mothers should take their young sons to the gents? In the end, it is the boy who is using the toilet.

When I was very little, I am going to guess about five, my dad took my brother and I swimming and used the men's changing rooms, and I saw an adult stranger's penis. It actually did quite disturb and upset me for a while. I am obviously fine now, but it wasn't nice at the time (and we are a family who are fairly comfortable with nudity, so I had glimpsed brother and dad naked before and understood men had different bodies).

Because of the nature of men's toilets, with urinals, I don't think it's OK to take little girls in there and risk them being exposed to full frontal male nudity. It's OK if the gents is cubicle only - that's different.

I also agree that guys shouldn't be in the women's toilets unless there is absolutely no alternative.

Therefore the least worst outcome in this situation is to use the disabled loo (I understand the objections to this, but there is no ideal solution sometimes) . Obviously in many cases this doubles as a family room so that's it's exact purpose! Even when it doesn't, I think using it is the least worst option.

And demand more safe, gender neutral toilets and changing spaces, to acknowledge the fact that dads have daughters, women have sons, people have opposite sex partners who require assistance with toileting, etc etc.

Are you disabled? Because I am and I still think a man with a female child should use them rather than impose himself on the ladies loos. Ideally of course, there should be a single user option that isn't disabled access. But there often isn't.

Time for the what about women washing moon cups in the sink comments.

Men's. She will be with her father.
Young children can go with their parent to use facilities based on the parent's sex.

"Parenting in the most appropriate toilet"? Lol.
By that logic, that would be mean a little girl is safest in the women's toilet instead of going into the gents, with multiple men pissing at the urinals for instance.

…and the problem with that is? Nobody is waving them around, you see the back of them and then (horrors) might hear someone urinating. It’s hardly the end of days.

@stillhiding1990

Creepy as hell a woman thinking little girls should be in a male toilet - disgusting

there fixed that for you

He should take her to the men’s - she’s with him so she’s safe.

I love this... and may steal it (sorry)

"Good men stay out, so bad men stand out"

That is it exactly for me. Can't send our girls to the women's toilet any more. We wouldn't send them into the men's toilet, because of men... now we can't send them into the women's, because of men. Their independent world gets smaller, they stay "infantilised" for longer.

Make men's toilets more like women's. Make men's toilets safe for all. Stop providing "solutions" for men that use women's spaces.

Unless the woman is pissing in the sink, she doesn't need any more privacy than the lockable cubicle door.

But do keep clutching at straws, it's getting quite amusing.

This would be solved by getting rid or urinals. Men don't need them, they don't have them at home.

It’s selfish and entitled is what it is . My father managed perfectly with me and my sister bringing us to men’s when we were kids . What the hell do you think goes on in men’s toilets that is so traumatic ? Even if they catch a glimpse of a mans body that is not traumatic

The toilet examlple sounds innoccuous, but it is a perfect slippery slope.

1)if the men's toilet are so bad for a little girl with her father, how long before someone comes with the idea that father should take his little son to the women's toilet - quoting the very same reasoning?

2)what will happen when father takes her swimming somewhere with open floor changing room? Will he go through women's with her as well?

Men, young men and men with children are still men.

Since she is the one needing the toilet, doesn’t she have the right to use the toilets that align with her sex?

Men pulling out their penises and having a wee in either individual urinals or the more common trough urinals.

What kind of hedonistic behaviour are you thinking a dad with his little girl is going to attempt in the women’s toilet?

Ok so if there aren't any disabled toilets or they are locked what should he do?

Yet more sweeping generalisations.

Men are not predators. Some are but it's completely disingeous to make such a sweeping statement.

Woman are entitled to privacy - the cublic door provides it.

A man bring his young daughter to the toilet is not creepy.

Your view of the world is distorted.

She is more than welcome to stay or to use facilities suitable for her to be accompanied by a man

Well I'm a woman and would prefer, for my DD's sake, that he parents in the appropriate toilet

What sort of Roman style hedonistic behaviour do you think goes on in a shopping centre toilet ?

you. It was ask a man to leave now it’s ask a man for privacy- they aren’t the same

He will at least realise he is isn't wanted there and that at least some women will speak up. Men don't need to be everywhere no matter how much they want to be.

The faux naivety on this thread is astonishing

You’re not just asking a man to leave, you’re asking the young girl to leave with her carer because her carer happens to be her dad.