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AIBU to feel upset after my meeting with my manager?

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derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 07:38

I have been working somewhere for nearly 10 years, after being a SAHM. I loved my job, but the company has gone through many restructures and it has changed completely.

Over the past 2 years we have had many redundancies and people not replaced. As a result my workload has massively increased. On top of this many of my colleagues have sought out doctors notes, and other things to exempt them from certain tasks. I have been given this extra work too. This has caused me a lot of stress. It also affects others and a few of my work colleagues are now on antidepressants or have left. Our staff turnover is horrendous. People are leaving with no job to go to. Everyone is unhappy and it is a toxic environment.

Anyway, I had my appraisal and it went OK, but afterwards I realised I had been downgraded. I asked some of my colleagues, not directly, but they confirmed they received higher. I was really upset about this, as I'd say I was one of a few people who do the lions share. I even manage the department when there is no manager. Since my boss is on holiday I asked the next level up (it is usual to escalate to this person) about my appraisal.

What then followed has really shocked me. I was told that it had been agreed amongst them to downgrade me as whilst my work was excellent and appreciated, I had a bad attitude and my behaviours are not aligning with what they list as what we should be demonstrating. Apparently people say hello to me, and I have my head down and barely acknowledge them or I am in a mood and people tread on eggshells around me. I am a thorn in the managers side, and I bring problems to the manager but not solutions. I am abrupt. I was totally shocked by this because in the 30 years that I have been working, and the many appraisals I have had, I have never had this feedback. In fact I have constantly been told I am very popular and respected and a go to person if someone needs help. I have never worked with this manager. It felt like a character assassination.

Some points;

I asked for some specific examples, but they could not name one.

I have never had a complaint made about me by a customer, or by a colleague in 10 years.

Apparently I am too outspoken, but they specifically asked me to join a group of staff to talk about branch issues. I asked to step down from this and was asked to stay as my opinions are valued. After one meeting the head of the company told my manager that they were really impressed with how I professionally handled myself. Seeing me upset, a friendly manager told me that I had pissed off one of the managers by questioning something, and that the company ask for my opinion, but don't always like the answers.

In this company, I have had at least 18 appraisals and mid years, and not once have I ever had feedback on my attitude. There is no history of this whatsoever.

Now, I am not disputing my attitude and behaviours. However I asked them to put it into context. I am covering a very large portion of the workload. I have asked to reduce my hours, and change my days (there is one week a month where I work 7 out of 8 days in a row). I come home stressed out and crying. I have raised concerns numerous times about my workload and improving my work life balance. These have all been rejected as we are short staffed and it doesn't suit the business. I asked to move department and they have said no. So, with that in mind, yes I look stressed, I look unhappy, I may not be skipping along saying hello to everyone. However, no one has complained about me, neither staff member or client.

Apparently they have observed this about me for a while, and my manager should have addressed it with me, but they did not. Even though I spent an hour and a half in my appraisal. Apparently they are too scared of me. I am in my 50's and they are in their late 20's.

FYI this is a minimum wage job. I do have another PT job which I can increase the hours. I don't really need the money, but I saved and invested all that I earned and felt I was contributing to my household and our future.

This manager suggested that I get my manager and a couple of other managers who also work along side me in a room and they tell me bluntly about my attitude and behaviours, I can then go away, reflect on it, and come back acting differently. I don't really like the sound of this!!!

My DH is not being very supportive about me leaving. He says I shouldn't till I get another job, but I just don't see how I can stay if this is what they think of me. My adult DC say that I am going to end up having a heart attack or stroke and it is not worth it.

AIBU to be upset, or is this kind of feedback normal?

What would you advise me?

What's stopping me leaving;

The money was invested and it feels good.
I like to be busy, and have structure to my week.
I'm in my 50's, it'll be hard to get another job. However, I do have another job that I enjoy and I can develop (I am a pilates instructor)

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madaboutpurple · 06/09/2026 08:27

I hope you can get a voluntary redundancy as this company do not sound a caring place at all. It sounds to me if you can increase the Pilates hours that would better as that organisation will be a place that is a caring organisation and you would be far happier. I am sure the participants in the Pilates class would describe you far more favourably than the dreadful company so it sounds like they are doing their best to assassinate your character. I hope you can get a good deal on a voluntary redundancy deal and I wish you a happier future. Other posters are right this could end with your health suffering. Like others have said you could look at shop work for awhile if you needed The Pilates seems a great place as participants will be much nicer than the awful company. I send my best wishes.

HelpMeGetThrough · 06/09/2026 08:26

Seems to me they see you as a threat and want to chip away at your confidence. Its a nasty management tactic (normally used by extremely inexperienced or bad ones) I’ve seen played out a few times.

If you don’t need the money to live on, I’d leave before it gets any worse for you. I would however get signed off for a decent period and then quit whilst off.

RandomMess · 06/09/2026 08:26

If you get sick pay go off with stress and let them endure you not being there to carry the weight. Your GP can then do a Fit Note for you with part time hours etc. At any point you can then resign hopefully a lot less stressed and ready with your increased Pilates work ready to launch.

BluesBird19764 · 06/09/2026 08:24

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 06/09/2026 07:40

Leave. Your health is more important. It sounds like a very toxic place.

This, 💯 no job is worth that stress.

LeahCariad · 06/09/2026 08:24

Dear twattish boss.

Please accept this letter as my formal notice of resignation.

As per my contract I am required to provide 4 weeks notice, therefore my last working day will be xx/xx/xxxx.

Regards

xxx

Atleastitsnotsunstroke · 06/09/2026 08:24

Unfortunately not a company that values you. Pls do not think you cannot get a job elsewhere. Look up Brave Starts for inspo.

JennyForeigner · 06/09/2026 08:23

Absolutely get signed off sick. They have fucked you about and not need to find out. You should never make a decision about resigning in the heat of the moment - I agree with others that they are trying to push you out and jumping straight to resignation is playing their game. Get yourself down to your GP and explain.

If you do end up resigning, play writing the letter with a straight bat. You resign as of x date. You wish them well. Let the 'with running this place into the ground you absolute twonks' be unspoken.

LilacBalloons · 06/09/2026 08:23

Definitely leave OP - life is way too short to put up with this. It's clearly a toxic environment and it's just not going to get better. Work on your Pilates job prospects or find something else but don't keep putting yourself through this misery for money you don't even need.

TrishM80 · 06/09/2026 08:23

Getting that stressed out about a minimum wage job is insane.

Waytoohothot · 06/09/2026 08:23

You are being bullied by a bunch of twenty year olds, just go off sick tomorrow and never return you will get paid for 6 months at least, life is too short, they may also be trying to get rid of you so dont allow them to do that, go off sick stating bullying and ignore them

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/09/2026 08:22

I am in my 50's and they are in their late 20's

That could easily be enough to do it, with ageism being so rife - you're good enough to shoulder the burden of the work but no longer fit the team in their eyes
Also, If they're going for contractors rather than permanent staff they may also be looking to save money

Obviously you need to leave, and when you do I'd want an exit interview where you can tell them precisely what's led to the massive staff turnover and toxic atmosphere

Gardenflowering · 06/09/2026 08:22

derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 08:15

OK, thank you.

I think I have decided to resign. I will have another job - my pilates work and I can up it. I can also take some time for myself, and to support my DC doing their A levels.

I am shaking with stress here, I didn't sleep last night.

What do I go in and say to them?

Do it. It’s best now.

Write 2 resignation letters, one for fun, keep it to yourself, telling them what bastards they are, pour it out, pour out your inner sass and let rip.
Then
Get onto ChatGPT to help you formulate a short, professional resignation letter. Ping that to HR, copy in the manager.
Can you take any owed leave to go in a week or so??

Cardhey · 06/09/2026 08:21

Go sick and plan your exit.

Bunnie007 · 06/09/2026 08:21

derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 07:56

We did actually get told in a meeting recently that we all need to smile more. They don't actually think about why we are not smiling.

Great plan from them- make your staff really unhappy. Then give them negative appraisals for daring to appear unhappy and god forbid anyone should have an opinion. Your manager is not doing there job properly if they can not politely and professionally address any issues that they have with your behaviour. If you have been rude etc, as they imply then this should be dealt with promptly, by your direct line manager- sounds like they are flaky! Do the bare minimum look for another job. Speak to GP re stress and menopause and log this with your HR- it could be seen as discrimination to be down grading you for displaying signs of menopause!!!! Play the game. You owe them nothing. Get signed off and practise your Pilates or phone in sick on random days with a ‘migraine’ - they have come on because of the stress of the appraisal. Continue to plan your exit. Good luck

MsPrufrockk · 06/09/2026 08:20

You've already had plenty of great advice (I definitely agree with your decision to leave!), so I just wanted to say I'm sorry you're being treated like this when you've obviously worked so hard for this company! Ultimately it's going to be their loss 💐

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 06/09/2026 08:19

Sorry to derail but if you are a Pilates instructor please increase! Where I go, the waiting list for a class is huge, you need to be at one to book on the next and the evening one I go to is full of retirees, pt workers and SAHP… you absolutely could get day time or 1-1 classes well full!

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 06/09/2026 08:19

derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 08:15

OK, thank you.

I think I have decided to resign. I will have another job - my pilates work and I can up it. I can also take some time for myself, and to support my DC doing their A levels.

I am shaking with stress here, I didn't sleep last night.

What do I go in and say to them?

Be blunt. Tell them that you’re leaving because you are not appreciated for the work you do and you wish to work somewhere that you will be. Don’t need to say much more than that. They will have a shock when you go- they probably assumed you wouldn’t leave and that they could manipulate you into doing more work, criticising you to erode your confidence and giving you less pay. Don’t stand for it, you deserve so much more.

InterestedDad37 · 06/09/2026 08:17

Are you in a union? If so, get them onto your case. Sounds like shocking treatment. The damage is done, and I'd understand that you probably don't want to stay there, but they might help you get an exit with some recompense for the treatment you've had.

NiceCupOfChai · 06/09/2026 08:15

Get signed off work with stress, and use the time to plan your next move be that upscaling Pilates or applying to other jobs. When ready you can resign while still off sick.

derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 08:15

OK, thank you.

I think I have decided to resign. I will have another job - my pilates work and I can up it. I can also take some time for myself, and to support my DC doing their A levels.

I am shaking with stress here, I didn't sleep last night.

What do I go in and say to them?

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Ivygarland · 06/09/2026 08:14

I work with late 20s early 30s. I am not that much older. But some of this is almost certainly generational disconnect between how the two generations communicate. IME in particular they give out extremely harsh criticism and are the first to cry unprofessional but absolutely cannot take any negative feedback themselves and like it all to be super positive and 'collaborative' without any of the work to get there. It's all about appearances and does t go any deeper. There's no loyalty cos it's all about them and how they feel. So anything you say has to be reframed into their mindset. There's some really good research and you tube videos into how gen X can approach communication with gen z to try to bridge the gap and it does help.

UnwillingAdvocate · 06/09/2026 08:13

derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 08:08

"I would start to look elsewhere and make plans to leave but don't quit as a reaction to a unsatisfactory appraisal"

It is not really the appraisal but that vitriol feedback on my character at work that indicates to me that they want me out.

Edited

But it is the appraisal. You’ve been downgraded because of all those things they listed. You know how toxic this working environment is because you’ve seen so many people leave. Look back on the thread, it’s pretty unanimous. It’s not you, it’s them

MintSnail · 06/09/2026 08:12

Awful, I feel for you. My take, this job has affected you and your professional behaviours more than you realise with all the extra work etc. their feedback may be factual and valid but nothing has been mentioned to you or documented and that is unprofessional and unhelpful. I would immediately increase the hours on the other job and / or get another job. If you can afford to resign and are comfortable moving on without another extra role then do. I could not bear to work with such a bunch of unfair amateurs. You sound like a thoughtful, experienced thoroughly professional employee, they don't deserve your dedication.

LeahCariad · 06/09/2026 08:11

In your shoes, I'd be slapping my resignation letter on them tomorrow morning, clearing my desk and then being off sick for the remainder of my notice.

derFutterneid · 06/09/2026 08:10

avonleabonbon · 06/09/2026 08:07

Leave. You are more than capable. You’ve been doing the lions share for no reward. Perhaps your ability to manage shows up other’s ineptitude- not your concern. They will only verbally abuse you worse as they’ve opened the door to it. This will only affect your self confidence more and a reference you may need. Perhaps say “ since you find me difficult to work with, could we agree a reference and I’ll resign?” intending to resign anyway. Don’t give into their mind games!

They don't give references as company policy, only a letter head with "they worked here x to y".

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