Is the trans kids trend over? Aibu to wonder what happened to the kids caught up in it in the 2010s?

I wish it had. This upcoming puberty blockers trial is going to damage a whole new cohort of children, and as per my previous post, the Chelsea and Westminster hospital is chopping off breasts and grafting forearm flesh onto abdomens at the tax payers' expense. They have had to employ tissue viability nurses to identify the inevitable tissue necrosis. It is like something out of Frankenstein's Monster.

Gosh, this is shocking. As the parent of a 21 year old with ASD and trauma who identifies as trans I am appalled that Mumsnet has a director who advocates for medical transition of young people, particularly when it is not backed by good evidence as acknowledged by NHS England. I would very much like if this person could explain their position.

It is also worth saying that The Good Law Project is losing all credibility.

To answer your question OP. It certainly seems to be on the way out in the schools around me in Greater London. But this is just from what I have noticed with my own children’s schools. Three or four years ago most schools had a small number of kids identifying as trans, all of them were probably neurodivergent. As I understand it, a couple of years ago it was no longer cool to be trans and the only kids left behind were the ones with autism 😞

Exactly. A child's body but over the age of consent.

I have worked in children's services for over 40 years in different roles but always with young people and families that needed support.

We had no children claiming to be trans until around until 2019 when we had 3 within 4 months on our case load. The following years it increased significantly. At one point out of a case load of 127 between the team we had 34 claiming to be trans. All but one were female claiming they were male.

From the moment the child said they were trans we had to refer to them with their new name, God forbid if we slipped up and used their 'dead name' and write our records up referring to them with their new name and gender even if the parents protested. We noticed the numbers we got of young people claiming they were trans started to decline around late 2024. We have no trans kids on our case load at the moment

All those that we had previously have reverted back to their original gender and name. Every single one. Most have kids of their own now.

These children were given every support to chahge their gender within the legal framework, their views were respected and so on.
We live in a mid size town. Most of the teens know each other, if not there is always a connection with the teens .
For me it seemed to be a fad. The only observation I can offer is all the children were either diagnosed with autism or adhd or they didnt quite fit in with their peers some how and were never quite in with the in crowd and were quite awkward with their behaviour.
I never specifically worked with children that had autism as such, all the children were in main stream or alternative provision.

I know on the feminist board the trans issue is still a live one and I am only speaking from personal expierence and not disputing other peoples views.

Incidentally we only had one furby,I think they're called. He had cat ears,cat collar and tail and meowed every time we spoke to him.The other kids couldn't quite comprehend it. The kids at his school erent bothered but at our place the children are from different schools in ghe area.His mother encouraged his behaviour. I think it started to stop when the children who stayed with us ( semi residential) took the piss and asked if he needed de fleaing when it was bath and shower time. This kid is doing ok and has now finished college and the cat kit has long hone!

I always wonders if (in addition to autism) some of the FtM was driven by the very girly/non natural aesthetic. The big lashes, fake tan etc.

I see far more girls embracing more of a 90s look at the moment and it's much less full on. Perhaps easier to fit with if you are not a girly girl without thinking you have to be something else.

My youngest just says people have gone back to default factory settings which while fairly amusing does seem to be correct.

What made me different as a kid was the fact I never saw the need to conform to what everyone else was doing. I did not take drugs and sit in fields drinking like a lot of my peers, not that I was this amazing kid I just did not like the thoughts of it. I found out in later life I have Audhd so it makes sense now but I never did the dying of my hair or shaving it underneath my ponytail like a lot of my schoolfriends did, no tattoos till I was in my 40's! I got my nose pierced once and my dad told me it suited me so I removed it lol

Kids with trans issues was mainly a fashionable trend. Life has moved on.

"some kids will try anything to push back or to get attention"

Oh lord yes. I remember my mother in the late sixties remarking in an amused way that people in their teens and early twenties at the time were very keen on being individualists and expressing their true selves, which they did by all having long hair, dressing identically in jeans and a sweater (in winter, a t-shirt in summer) and loudly supporting the same causes. This applied equally to the male and the female clones, she added thoughtfully.

A few years after that she pointed out that tattoos were the first adolescent fashion during her lifetime that the people who got them would be stuck with for the rest of their lives. (In those days removal was difficult and very expensive.) Piercings could be allowed to grow back, and would, but tattoos were not so easy to pretend had never happened. (And you might go off Maisie.)

Oh I know who he is. Unfortunately I know more about GLP than I would like. I just had no idea he was a MN NED.

Yet again, MN sorely disappoints. If it wasnt for all of the wonderful FWR members, I'd have left here long ago - and if not, this would definitely have sealed the deal.

The only genuine case I know of is still living as a man now in his late teens, born female. My now ex boyfriends daughter and 4 of her best friends are strangely now happier they 'stayed' female as if anyone believed any of them. My kids went through educate together schools in Ireland where you can be anyone you want and there are a very tiny minority of trans kids in that school. I do think it was a trend like when I was in secondary school the 'trend' was to be bisexual. None of mine have had any trends so far and as they are all just out of their teens now I am not seeing it happen. I do think that there are genuine cases of course but some kids will try anything to push back or to get attention and as a solo mum I am delighted none of mine felt that need.

Oh yes, that too. And not telling anyone about the kiddy-fiddler who said it would be their secret would add to the thrill, wouldn't it.

(why are some men so vile? why do they enjoy destroying others?)

@lifeturnsonadime spot on.

Also puberty blocking arrests child development. It's not hard to imagine what kind of people would be interested in keeping children in a pre-pubescent state.

Because one of the things the trans agenda does is set out to subvert child safeguarding, at a guess. All too successfully in many ways: "it will be our secret, we won't tell your parents" used to be the line pursued by a sexual abuser, not a child's teachers, for God's sake! Children used to be taught that any man encouraging them to keep his behaviour a secret from their parents was up to no good however nice he might seem; not any longer.

A pp up thread asked why Epstein would be interested in trans people?
When a pervert and sexual predator becomes bored they look for their next kick.
Chole cole addresses this in her podcast with Dr Soh.
One of the mtf people I employed was passed from man to man without love but for kinks. A very unhappy individual. You'd be surprised how many married men wanted to see them naked.
The other mtf employee was very old school. You would look twice due to the height and the hands but everyone was supportive and they were very private.
So my story up thread was even a shock to me with some limited knowledge.

If they are not medical, what exactly are puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones?

The Tavistock was certainly handing those out pretty freely; enough to alarm some of their staff and lead eventually to their resignation after whistleblowing failed to have any effect.

GIDS did a study on puberty blockers which began in 2011 and enrolled 44 children aged between 12 and 15 over the following three years. At the time, only those aged 16 and over were eligible for puberty blockers in the UK. When they were compelled to give up the data on that study, it revealed that all but one of these children went on to take cross-sex hormones. (There was no control group for this study, which in itself should raise questions.) They treated at least a thousand children, that is, people under thee age of eighteen. There are no records of what later became of these children, because the Tavistock didn't keep those.

The place was specifically founded to be for patients under eighteen. "The Tavistock clinic, named the Gender and Identity Development Service (GIDS), was launched in 1989 to help people aged 17 and under struggling with their gender identity." Keira Bell was treated there and prescribed puberty blockers when she was sixteen (by which time it was way too late to stop her from going through much of her puberty) and testosterone injections a year later, when she would have been seventeen.

Did you mean surgically? She didn't have the double mastectomy until she was twenty.

There were two men dressed as women wandering about M&S in Princes Street, Edinburgh one time last year. Both rather tall, even for men. One looked to be in his 50s, judging by the combover and grey hair. (It was dyed purple, but had worn off.)

My impression was that they were looking to be noticed, given their body language.

I haven't seen any young MtF recently. The former pupil that I mentioned in a previous post was at uni when he began to transition. He must be in his late 40s or early 50s by now.

I had three girls all in the one secondary school who identified as male.

Two had typical short haircuts for a girl, I'd say; the third was 'stealth', had transferred from another school and had a short back and sides.

She was quite a big girl and wore baggy shorts, top and a baseball cap. (The boys wouldn't have been allowed to dress like that in school, I must say.)

She was excused P.E. and used the disabled toilets. The boys found out when she told them that she was trans.

She very rarely attended school, so I suspect that there were various issues there.

I've said elsewhere on these boards that - so far as the girls who were openly trans were concerned - their pals seemed to be more invested in their trans identity than they were. They both used the girls' toilets and girls' changing facilities for PE.

I'm aware of one former pupil who went through a MtF transition round about 2000. My understanding is that they've had all the surgeries.

My trans (ftm)autistic kid was in an specialist autistic school

not one of his autistic friends identify any more as their natal sex.

all are trans, some mtf, some ftm , many non binary

he has other friends of course not from his school and they are a mixture of straight, trans, bi, gay but EVERYONE of the autistic friends identify as trans.

What was this in response to?

Interesting article here How Having a Disability Became Cool.

www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/9dce51f79879bcb0

I'm not sure but I was out in my local city the other day and spotted no less than seven young men who were attempting to present as female. They were not doing to well on that front.

None of them have social media accounts? No… they don’t have ones that you may know of.