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AIBU to stop helping after injuring myself lifting elderly neighbour?

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Barney221 · 05/09/2026 21:11

We are a rural road of 5 houses. One house is lived in by an elderly couple one of which has dementia and the other is paralyzed. Over the last few years the gentleman who is paralyzed has fallen frequently and the rest of us have been called and gone and picked him up. We are all 60 plus except for one lad in his 20s.

This afternoon all the male members of the 3 closest homes were out. He fell from his wheelchair in his mobility van and as the only 2 people available my female neighbour and I were summoned by his wife. She and I couldn't get him up so rang another elderly male neighbour. He came and he worked from the front whilst I pulled him from the back. We got him into the wheelchair but it then slipped back into me propelling me backwards down the ramp and off it onto the tarmac drive. Hes fine but I've had to go to a and e and I've got ruptured ligaments in one knee and bruising rand cuts to both and I'm struggling to walk. I'm unlikely to be able to drive for a few days and I'm self employed.

My husband is livid and is saying that he will call the couples kids tomorrow and tell them we are no longer available to pick him up. This will include DHs brother who Is one of 5 houses. Is that unreasonable?

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EmeraldRoulette · 05/09/2026 22:23

Barney221 · 05/09/2026 22:22

We've agreed that tonight. The local a and e told us that. DH will pass this on to their children tomorrow.

Why doesn’t he tell them directly?! Why the children?

Barney221 · 05/09/2026 22:22

Happyjoe · 05/09/2026 21:45

Not only are you putting yourself at risk, you may also be putting your neighbour at risk. There's way of lifting people who are elderly.

It's incredibly kind of you to help for so long and yes, it's time to stop now. They need to get professional help going forward. Hope you heal fast OP, sounds horribly sore.

We've agreed that tonight. The local a and e told us that. DH will pass this on to their children tomorrow.

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PinkyFlamingo · 05/09/2026 22:19

Barney221 · 05/09/2026 22:15

I think we're all so used to picking him up we've never even thought about him becoming further injured. Our NDN who do the picking up with us are on board too. Thank you

You really do risk causing him further injury, none of you are medical professional aks and can risk assess if it's safe to move him or not. And you risk causing yourself a serious injury.

alexdgr8 · 05/09/2026 22:17

You should never have been doing this at all.
It can be highly dangerous for all concerned.
I'm sorry you were injured and hope you can recover ASAP.
The correct procedure is to call an ambulance for anyone who is disabled.
Suppose the person who had fallen was injured by neighbours pulling at him.
There could potentially be all sorts of legal liabilities.
And added stress for you.
This is not like posting a letter or fetching some shopping.
This is beyond being neighbourly.
All the best.

Johnogroats · 05/09/2026 22:17

MIL was insistent she was fine living alone (had capacity) but was frail. She fell several times and insisted it was ok because Joan next door could help her up. Joan was 85.

Her children were well aware she needed to move to a home but it took time to get her to agree. Joan refusing to help was part of the discussion. And obviously MILs children told Joan she mustn’t do anything like that. It’s sad but it took a painful fall and an ambulance before she agreed to go into a home.

GellerYeller · 05/09/2026 22:17

Forgive me if I’ve misunderstood, but he was in a mobility van transferring himself into a wheelchair when he fell? Does he drive?

Barney221 · 05/09/2026 22:15

GellerYeller · 05/09/2026 21:56

We’ve had similar situations here. You don’t need to be responsible if he becomes further injured during a lift, or, as we were, when he fell and no one was around to pick him up: ‘Ooh this is all Geller’s fault, why wasn’t she available to sort him out’….The next of kin were unaware how bad things were.

Please make sure your other helpful neighbours know that you’ve been incapacitated and that they all need to back you in saying together, we can’t help in future.

I hope you heal soon. You’ve more than done your bit. Time for professional help for them now. 💐

I think we're all so used to picking him up we've never even thought about him becoming further injured. Our NDN who do the picking up with us are on board too. Thank you

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TheGoodEnoughWife · 05/09/2026 22:12

Not sure why people are saying the OP and husband has no right be ‘livid’ with the neighbours offspring. The OP doesn’t say that - first issue - husband is ‘livid’. Understandable as his wife has got hurt. Second issue - husband going to call the offspring of the elderly couple. Fair enough - maybe they do not know what is going on?

Separate but linked issues.

Op you need to stop helping out. Kind of you but enough now.

fashionqueen0123 · 05/09/2026 22:11

I can’t believe you’ve picked him up before and for so long. Insanity. Call the ambulance every time! They clearly can’t be safe to live together alone

EmeraldRoulette · 05/09/2026 22:08

@plra i’m really sorry you’ve had such a hard time

In terms of them living without any help, that might be their choice. If I had to bet I would imagine it probably is. It was an absolute battle for me to get my mum to agree to having an emergency button and then even bigger battle to get her to agree to having carers.

my mum is tiny and underweight, but I still wouldn’t even try and lift her even if there was someone else helping

@Barney221 Adding in the fact that you were trying to transfer someone to a wheelchair, I cannot believe no one has spoken to them before about this or that people have agreed to do it.

Barney221 · 05/09/2026 22:07

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We're not angry with them. DH babysat them as kids and has told them previously. As for they're Dad you are so right.

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Plra · 05/09/2026 22:04

Our society is such a mess. One with dementia and one paralysed = ludicrous for them to be living alone. Absolutely ludicrous. I don’t know how our society has got into such a mess. People have always got old and have a variety of issues and then they die. It’s not like this hasn’t happened a million times before. i feel particularly bitter about it as my mum, sf, mil and fil have all died recently in a bloody awful state.

op as you know with hindsight, this was an ambulance job. Not a neighbour job.

Abustedflush · 05/09/2026 22:00

You call an ambulance and wait with the neighbours until they arrive, keeping your neighbour warm and hydrated. The ambulance team will have the safest kit to hand to help get him up, and check him over for any injuries.

Torchout · 05/09/2026 22:00

BotterMon · 05/09/2026 21:46

Carers are not allowed to lift fallen clients as there is too much risk of injury. They call an ambulance every time.

That's not the case if the person has a lifter. You position it behind the person who's fallen and it wedges itself underneath them and gets them standing with no human help. I've seen one in action and they're amazing.

You shouldn't help someone whose fallen and can't get up by themselves as you can hurt them more.

Barney221 · 05/09/2026 22:00

Not livid with the kids. DH is just mad my lovely NDN and I tried to help and I'm the one hurt.

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GellerYeller · 05/09/2026 21:56

We’ve had similar situations here. You don’t need to be responsible if he becomes further injured during a lift, or, as we were, when he fell and no one was around to pick him up: ‘Ooh this is all Geller’s fault, why wasn’t she available to sort him out’….The next of kin were unaware how bad things were.

Please make sure your other helpful neighbours know that you’ve been incapacitated and that they all need to back you in saying together, we can’t help in future.

I hope you heal soon. You’ve more than done your bit. Time for professional help for them now. 💐

Ved · 05/09/2026 21:56

@Barney221

Never help again. You should have not started it anyway. People take advantage. My DH used to cut the hedges and mow the lawns of a woman on her own closeby (about 5 years older than us,) and he did it for 7 years.... I do my share of everything, and then some... I have always done 80% of everything ... shopping, cooking, childcare, washing, housework, life admin, and most of the gardening. DH cuts the high/big hedges and the lawns. (And various blue jobs, like to do with the car, DIY and heavy lifting etc, and occasional household tasks!) We are in our mid-late 50s.

A couple of years ago, DH started to get a bad back - a combination of old age, and lots of physical labour in his 30s and 40s, (before getting into admin at 48.) And he said he can't do it for her any more. He can still do ours but it's too much doing other peoples. It took him ages as she has 4 quite large lawns and long high hedges. It was taking a day or two a month during summer.

So I told her in 2024, that DH wouldn't be doing it any more, because of health reasons, and she said 'oh, OK, well I don't know what I shall do then....' I said 'there are several people nearby who mow lawns, and cut hedges, and the like.. I have a card in the house I can pass to you...' She just frowned.

Then she said 'well can't you do it?' I said 'well not really, I don't do big hedges and lawns, its out of my physical remit.' She said 'well maybe you should give it a go, it may make you fitter and get you out of the house, and trim you down a little bit.' I was gobsmacked. I said 'no I don't think I will be doing it, and I do get reasonable exercise and do a lot, and I get out of the house plenty!' and I was like Hmm (I am not even that big/overweight, so the 'get trimmer' comment was out of order!) Even if I had been, it would still have been rude!

She could see/detect I was offended, but she laughed and said' ooh, don't take it personally I can see I've hit a raw nerve.' I said 'of course I am taking it personally, the comments were aimed directly at me.' She said 'oh don't be so silly!' Speaking to me as if I was 5! Really dismissive and rude. I said 'I have to go put dinner on now.' Then I turned my back and went back home.

2 years ago, and I have never forgiven her, and don't speak to her anymore. She has tried to speak a few times, (in the 3-4 weeks after she was so rude!) but she hasn't bothered since. GOOD. She can fuck off. We may have been able to help her a bit with other things that she was struggling with, like taking her to the shops if her car was off the road, or bits here and there, but I wouldn't lift a finger to do anything for her now. She was so fucking rude, ungrateful, and nasty, and KNOWS she offended me, but never apologised. In 2 years, not one word of 'sorry I offended you.' So to hell with her. For 7 fucking years my husband did her lawns and hedges.

Bit of a rant there sorry, but I just wanted to explain how bloody ungrateful some people can be. So be prepared for some anger and resistance when you start refusing to do anything else, after helping for so long! No good deed goes unpunished and all that!

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PyongyangKipperbang · 05/09/2026 21:54

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I can well believe that. One of the reasons my parents NDN insisted on my father helping him was because he had totally run out of goodwill on the part of his son in law. Also, people are selfish, why should they do it if they can get you to do it.

Barney221 · 05/09/2026 21:54

Thanks all. Part of the problem is the close knit relationship. My DH and his brother have lived here for 60 years. DH has told the son who he's known since he was born repeatedly that the situation can't carry on. Going forward we will be calling him followed by an ambulance. Neighbours agree.

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Onefairfish · 05/09/2026 21:54

You don’t need to help someone to the extent that you are injuring yourself.

Remagirl19 · 05/09/2026 21:54

You should call an ambulance in this scenario. My parents had a similar scenario a few years back. I had to tell them to stop trying to lift the elderly man and help by calling 999. They weren’t qualified to determine if the person they were helping was injured and safe to move. I also didn’t want them getting injured.

PyongyangKipperbang · 05/09/2026 21:52

Stop helping.

My father ended up in hospital needing surgery after their neighbour (who was, we later found out, was an entitled CF) needed help like this that he refused to pay for. In this case it sounds like they are doing the "its not that bad and the neighbours help out", head burying.

You need to stop for their sake as much as yours.

Sheep85 · 05/09/2026 21:51

As PP have said the ambulance service will pick them up and make sure they’re ok and not take the person to hospital if they’re ok. Some areas have a falls team whose job it is to go round picking people up. Some areas use the fire service.
Definitely stop picking them up. You can still help by waiting with them for the correct service to arrive.

croisette · 05/09/2026 21:47

Ruptured knee ligaments can be a major injury and you may need a lot of physio and some need an op. If it’s as bad as it sounds you won’t be able to help any more anyway. I do sympathise as you were clearly trying your best but would have been much safer to decline which you must do in future

Hairsnakes · 05/09/2026 21:47

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