AIBU to question people claiming they would happily pay more tax?

If they asked for donations towards specific projects, I think they'd have far more success in attracting donors. I'd happily sign up to £100 a month for 5 years to build prisons & secure migrant holding centres.

It isn’t just about supporting other people, it’s about a range of things that make it a better place for our children to live in. Unsupported and unpoliced others can become a risk to us and our children. If there’s no social care system my child will likely end up having to care for me. I don’t want that for her.

Ultimately people don’t want to pay more - they want to pay more with conditions - be it a better NHS or better schools

as it stands more money isn’t going to improve public services because they aren’t functioning properly for the society we have now - tinkering around the edges isn’t going to fix anything. The triple lock is going to bankrupt this country and politicians are to short termist to be willing to touch it.

instead they tinker with putting in populist taxes like VAT on schools and the mansion tax which raise very little

I’m in the 42% bracket and I’m not exactly thrilled with it of course, and neither would I be delighted at the prospect of paying more. But on the other hand I understand I need to pay it if I want functioning public services. I’m not going to go and do a voluntary payment because what would be the point if nobody else did? It works on the basis of everyone who can contributing.

I make the voluntary donations

It's a common feature of current conversations about politics to attack the people who say things (e.g. 'they do not mean what they say, they mean this other thing'), and set up a straw man argument ('they could do this other different thing anyway'), rather than discuss the substance of anything.

There are, and always have been, and presumably always will be, people who would want the UK to move to a different taxation model in which they personally pay more. Look at Scotland for example - the SNP does not only levy the additional tax on opposition voters.

There are also people who want a more steeply progressive tax model. Then some want a more regressive tax model, some want wide tax cuts.

None of these people are saying something they don't mean, they are all saying what they mean.

Because I literally said in my post that I’d be willing to pay it on the basis everyone else does, and that basis isn’t currently true …

I think most people would not be faffed to specifically go on the relevant website and pay. However like (many?) I would be prepared to pay an additional amount of tax to improve public services etc. You can't have excellent public services in a low tax situation - see USA - you can have excellent public services with higher taxes. If we had excellent public services people wouldn't feel the need to pay for private healthcare, education, social care etc so more of the income they had left would be disposable income.

I am a pensioner, my combined pension income is around 22k. I agree I think I should pay NI on it

I actually do set up my tax card with a higher withholding rate than it needs to be, but I do get the extra back the next year.

The lady who doesn't explain why she left her previous accommodation, presumably because it doesn't fit the tabloid sad face script.

Yeah. I mean, I'd happily vote for an extra 1% in the UK too but I left the UK so long ago I don't feel right voting in elections there any more.

We shouldn't be paying millions to accommodate foreign men if we don't have adequate provisions for our own populace. Councils could be granted significantly more funds to help people like the lady in the article.

It's unsurprising that so many people are bewildered by the widespread support for Reform if they can't understand stuff like this.

Then they don't qualify for council housing or the emergency homeless accommodation that the nurse is seeking in the article. What's your point?

IF after claiming asylum they eventually are granted refugee status, they can go for the same assessment as the nurse does, and has exactly the same rules applied.

Don't let your prejudice hit you on your way out.

Do you mean you want to pay more tax in Finland?

I would happily vote for a 1% increase all round (or just for the upper two thirds or so, which will include me)

Still no proper answer?

Why don't you think the government should prioritise the safety of its own citizens (and former employees!) over random foreign men that haven't paid into the system?

I'm in Finland and just had a go at comparing my tax here and what it would be for the same income in the UK. I take home about 40 euros less per month here than I would in the UK, but for that 40 extra euros my children get free lunch every day at school, I paid nothing for nursery, and I don't have to pay a separate council tax so actually come to think of it, I pay less tax.

Not if they arrive on an inflatable boat.

Unless you're part of the Mumsnet apparent majority of exceptionally high earners, you haven't been. You've had the state pay for your childhood NHS bills and education and you'll be getting a pension so you'll be taking more than you put in, like the majority of people in this country. Except that is, for the migrants who take out less because they get their education elsewhere and come here as adults, contributing through work, without having the deficit of childhood costs.
Unless you have lived off grid and didn't go to school of course, which is entirely possible given the level of ignorance you've shown here.

As a childfree person Ive spent my life being economically raped to provide for subs and handouts to those who chose to breed so your not getting any more of my money mate. Sick of sucking off the tax man for things I do not want and cannot use.

I had a looking around and found that the systems operate differently and aren’t easy to compare.

Some figures here for you;

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-tax-burden-hit-record-173642211.html

Tax burden
The overall tax burden in the UK is forecast to rise from the equivalent of 35.3% of GDP (gross domestic product, or the total value of the economy) in 2024/25 to 37.7% in 2027/28, the highest level since current records began in 1948.
At the budget in October 2024, the OBR forecast the tax burden would climb even higher, peaking at 38.3% in 2027/28.
The new forecast is still above the previous record of 37.2% in 1948/49.
It is also more than four percentage points above the pre-pandemic level of 33.2% in 2019/20.

Where's your reliable source of information?