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AIBU to question people claiming they would happily pay more tax?

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Towerinthegarden · 05/09/2026 14:03

Yet another thread about should there be tax rises or spending cuts, and invariably you get a host of people coming out saying they are happy to pay more. Well you can https://www.gov.uk/guidance/voluntary-payments-donations-to-government

I’m pretty sure what they actually mean is I am happy to pay a tiny amount more on the understanding others will pay a lot more and then I’ll see the benefit. If that assumption is wrong why aren’t all these people saying they’re happy to pay more doing it?

Voluntary payments / donations to government

Find out how to make a voluntary contribution to government.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/voluntary-payments-donations-to-government

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Itchthescratch · 08/09/2026 11:23

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 11:13

Exactly this. It’s really not difficult - if an employer feels a job is worth a large amount of money then they pay it. Employers not known for being overly generous, they wouldn’t pay it out if it wasn’t worth it financially.

A good example for this is that Taylor Swift allegedly tipped each of her dancers £1 million after the Eras tour. This is many multiples the salary of a more 'worthy' job so I assume some would be up in arms about this but ultimately it's her money and her choice. She isn't asking the tax payer (American or British) to fund this. She is estimated to have made around $190 million from the tour so she has essentially generated the wealth and shared it with her employees. They will pay tax on this and presumably the US government will pocket this.

Employers can pay whatever they want to employees as they are the one funding it all. Most aren't overly generous but even if they are, so what? Would it have been better if Taylor had pocketed all that money herself?

Araminta1004 · 08/09/2026 11:18

NHS consultants often work privately and then can really be raking it in. It is also why they aren’t going to crack down on private health care - it subsidises the doctors long term and keeps costs down for the NHS.
The teachers becoming heads also get paid handsomely. There are career paths in all those professions. For nurses, some have gone into agency and overseas agency recruitment really raking it in. What you need in every profession is a ladder to the top where there is some wealth.
A lot of people in banks and law firms etc don’t make big bucks either. It is only those at the very top and the press loves to focus on those since the financial crisis. It makes for a good story.

Also a lot of people on big money in some finance jobs can get the sack quite quickly anyway. So no pension, no real job security etc, many many hours and climbing the greasy pole. If it was that easy to do it, everyone would be doing it.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 11:13

PhoebeBuffays · 07/09/2026 15:41

Nurses, doctors and teachers are paid fine. If we had a more free market for healthcare and not a crappy NHS they'd actually make lots more. US nurses and especially doctors make a lot more.

Someone on £250k generates enough value or revenue for their firm to justify that pay. Their firm WANTS to pay them that way. It's usually due to delivering value and revenue for the firm. They are more skilled and knowledgeable.

Exactly this. It’s really not difficult - if an employer feels a job is worth a large amount of money then they pay it. Employers not known for being overly generous, they wouldn’t pay it out if it wasn’t worth it financially.

Thelittleweasel · 08/09/2026 11:12

I would love to see the personal allowance at £15000 and the rate at 22%!

Oh and 10p per week [!] extra on the TV licence!

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 11:10

Differentforgirls · 08/09/2026 11:09

Which I don’t. I’ve reported them all anyway. Bullying.

And that’s fine - it’s what the report button is for.

Differentforgirls · 08/09/2026 11:09

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 11:05

Nobody has made a personal attack but just pointed out that it’s something that most people realise isn’t appropriate so it stands out. Just like other posters stand out for different reasons.

The poster questioned why you do that and you responded with the ‘creepy’ comment. They weren’t attacking you, just asking why you do it

Which I don’t. I’ve reported them all anyway. Bullying.

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 11:05

Differentforgirls · 08/09/2026 10:22

I don't but people aren't obliged to reply by making personal attacks.

Nobody has made a personal attack but just pointed out that it’s something that most people realise isn’t appropriate so it stands out. Just like other posters stand out for different reasons.

The poster questioned why you do that and you responded with the ‘creepy’ comment. They weren’t attacking you, just asking why you do it

PhoebeBuffays · 08/09/2026 11:00

BIossomtoes · 08/09/2026 10:09

Tax isn’t theft.

It kinda is. Especially at extortionate rates.

JaceLancs · 08/09/2026 10:48

I would happily pay more if I thought it would be spent sensibly - however I don’t trust politicians or any decision makers to do so, so will save any I have spare to pay for private health care and services
If I could afford it would pay private education for DGD too

Araminta1004 · 08/09/2026 10:44

The bit you are right on OP is that all kids should have the chance to go to the best school for them fit wise within a reasonable commuting distance. Grammar schools get critiqued for creaming off the more wealthy children especially if their catchments are largeish or even superselective with no catchment - but you are right in that the State is not facilitating enough children to access the best schools for them if the transport is not readily available. There is always this focus on free school meals when plenty of it is nutritionally questionable and actually when I look at DS at grammar and some of his friends on FSM, despite the free offer of meals, the parents are still sending in home cooked Indian food. I think they know what has more nutrition! Despite poverty.

Elefantio · 08/09/2026 10:43

And it’s all very well saying follow
the rules but in the ME (some of) their own people are doing things like sex trafficking and drinking excessively and beating up domestic staff and getting away with it due to wealth and connections, but they come down hard on foreigners for things like a few grains of cannabis on their shoe 🤦🏽‍♀️

https://www.npr.org/2008/02/09/18842015/dubai-jails-british-man-with-bit-of-marijuana-on-shoe

At least in countries like Singapore with strict systems I believe there’s more consistency although I could be wrong but that’s just from what I know of it.

Araminta1004 · 08/09/2026 10:39

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Elefantio · 08/09/2026 10:38

PhoebeBuffays · 08/09/2026 10:06

Just follow the rules. That's all you need to do

Did you miss the word “spurious” ? So the point is people are being locked up for nonsense reasons!

They may have did something minor or in some cases did nothing at all.

And then either way they are being badly treated in custody and/ being landed with excessive sentences.

It tends to happen to the foreigners, usually the brown or black ones but sometimes the white ones too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g4471e2yko

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/bizarre-crimes-tourists-have-been-accused-of-in-dubai/news-story/d7538068943723e7ef20e9a2cbd9a7ed?amp

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-02-16/my-dubai-holiday-ended-with-traumatising-three-month-stretch-in-prison

A man in a black hat and hoodie holds a toddler. The toddler's face is blurry.

British father tortured in Dubai detention - human rights group

Ryan Pepper, from Kent, has been imprisoned in the UAE "without explanation", says the group.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g4471e2yko

Differentforgirls · 08/09/2026 10:32

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Differentforgirls · 08/09/2026 10:22

Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 10:20

If you do keep asking personal questions (I don’t know whether you do l) then it’s something that stands out so of course people will remember your user name.

I don't but people aren't obliged to reply by making personal attacks.

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If you do keep asking personal questions (I don’t know whether you do l) then it’s something that stands out so of course people will remember your user name.

Humerdu · 08/09/2026 10:19

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You certainly do. Always asking about people’s personal circumstances. I’m not stalking you but it’s really obvious because no one else on mumsnet does it. I don’t ever notice anyone’s user name apart from yours. If you can’t pick people up on the reasonable points they make you point out some minor grammatical misdemeanour. It’s odd.

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Anarchy99 · 08/09/2026 10:15

Itchthescratch · 08/09/2026 10:07

Seems Saint Lineker wasn't so happy to pay tax at all when it came to it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65103265

Hypocrites as always. I would wager that virtually everyone that states they are willing to pay more tax are either hypocritical virtue signallers or people that actually pay very little tax and envisage other people footing the vast majority of the bill to pay them more benefits or pay for better services that they can use.

oh that is GOLD 🤣🤣🤣

I agree completely. This isn’t about paying more tax. It’s about getting OTHERS to pay more tax to make themselves look like a good person.

Anyone wanting to pay more can do that, but it doesn’t garner enough attention to do that!

Humerdu · 08/09/2026 10:14

Somersetbaker · 07/09/2026 20:39

Well I think the state of the of the privatised industries shows that that the private sector doesn't give a shit (unless it's being pumped into the rivers) about any public benefit they can provide, it's all about how much they can trouser before walking away, saying "wot me guv, I had no idea".

What are you talking about? Do you have any examples?

Humerdu · 08/09/2026 10:13

Pumpkindice · 07/09/2026 18:36

But by that happening, it creates a 'look at me I'm so generous with my taxes and I shouldn't have to be' as has been seen on this thread, rather than a recognition that a person earning 250k + a year isn't some magnificent super human that we should all be grateful has graced us with their presence in the country (often, putting huge amounts of money off shore and/or paying people to hide as much as their income as they can get away with)

What makes you think these people are moving money offshore or paying people to hide money? Do you know any of these people IRL? Do you imagine anyone that earns £250k has the dodgy morals of a Reform politician? I know lots of people on £250k + and I don’t know anyone that would ever dream of doing any dodgy tax avoidance of evasion, unless you count getting an isa and a pension. They’re all decent, upstanding people with incredibly valuable skills that companies pay vast amounts of money for, and the government receives an awful lot of income tax from.

People in the UK earning high salaries is a good thing.

BIossomtoes · 08/09/2026 10:09

PhoebeBuffays · 08/09/2026 10:06

We aren't masochists so will be leaving this nation to keep our money. We don't like being stolen from!

Tax isn’t theft.