AIBU to question people claiming they would happily pay more tax?

Most people have good cancer care here. We’re at the age when we quite frequently have friends and acquaintances with a diagnosis. Because of the skill and timely intervention of NHS professionals the outcome is usually positive. Bad outcomes are because many cancers are symptomless - pancreatic, liver and ovarian cancer are notorious for this, by the time symptoms manifest it’s too late.

They're regular middle class. I'm glad you had good cancer care here. Often NHS delays mean people with cancer have it spread and metastasise

So I don't really agree with the premise of the original post. I know of not one single person (nor poster) who has ever said "I'm happy to pay more tax and i don't care one jot what the government spend it on, they can spend it on parties at Westminster for all I care, where do I click". However I know plenty of people who would be willing to pay more under specific parameters, as we've seen here. For me I would willingly pay (even) more, if there was commitment to wholescale reform of the NHS, but I'm not willing to pay more to find the ongoing wastage and still not be able to get very sick relatives access to decent healthcare, let alone get any kind of healthcare at all for myself.

The link and your original post is asking people to donate with no accountability from anybody as to how it is spent. Most people quite reasonably won't do that because it would be frankly quite idiotic to do so, and you'd do as well just giving tenners to random strangers in the street in the hope that one of them one day might use it for good deeds.

Yes I’ve seen that repeated a fair few times on here. Apparently they’re keen.

Great let them join up with the others who are keen too.

The link doesn’t work.

Then they’re clearly very wealthy and probably don’t have complex health needs. The NHS is amazing for acute illness. My personal experience of cancer care and treatment is exceptional, had it happened in the US it would have wiped us out financially.

Bet if they went bankrupt after a particularly bad luck run of health issues they'd be begging for the NHS (and I don't even think the NHS is good anymore, and much prefer the mixed system in my country but one very good thing about it is that you never need to worry if you can afford to go to the doctor or call an ambulance)

Again, what about people on lower incomes who can't afford road fees? What about roads that won't generate a profit so won't be maintained? Would you like it if there was no road to your house because not enough people drive there to make it worthwhile?

Yes, some places, but surely you see how that's different to every single road being pay per use? And roads that aren't used much will either have to have unaffordable tolls or no road at all, because private developers are very unlikely to run a road at a loss.

Can’t reply in case you think I’m being personal.

Every state in the USA is different. My friends in Boston are proud of the healthcare they get and desperately don't want the NHS.

It pays for the price of using the road? It actually helps correct market failure. It's great.

You pay for how much you drive and use the road.

I wouldn’t because it’s just more money for the public sector to waste and be inept with. I used to work with the NHS and it was painful how much money was wasted.

Aren’t there toll booths in some places? People do pay.

Happening in specific places to reduce congestion and pollution is just such a far cry from having all roads privatised, we probably can't even imagine how bad it could be if all roads were in the hands of private companies - I mean look at how well private companies manage water and sewerage right now, do you want more of that?

Look at the US, it has a profit driven private medical system and people regularly go bankrupt due to the medical care while insurance companies find any reason they can to deny investigations or treatments. And prescriptions can be insanely expensive so some people can't afford necessary medications like insulin. The NHS absolutely has issues, but there's a lot worse options out there.

Just take a look at the NHS. Do you think that’s the most efficient way to run a health service? The private sector is far more efficient than the public as it is driven by a profit motive and gets on with the job.

Well we keep voting in mayors who put it in place.

It’d be harder in locations without as much public transport. I’m not for more taxes anyway, just to say it does happen here.

And how much do people complain about that? Imagine it being like that absolutely everywhere. Except for the places where they won't be any roads because they aren't profitable enough.

To be honest I think we are being run by the banks.
The banks run the Government who do whatever they want. That's why the politicians keep getting richer (have you ever known of so many multimillionaire MPs?) just look at Rayner from council house to multimillionaire - how exactly?

And the banks are just mercenary cunts.

The Government just keep wasting the public money and looking for more reasons to bankrupt us all.

It wasn't for nothing that Jesus wouldn't let the bankers into the temple.

No. Its not unreasonable but I’d rather not pay more tax tbh.

We pay enough and get nothing in return.

A&E wait times still 7 hours on a good day; potholes a plenty; crackheads on the street and still the same old chestnut for council tax increases “we need to pay for adult social care”

I’d gladly pay what I pay now IF we actually saw a return on investment.

Give me Scandi level conditions and I will gladly pay Scandi level tax.

We do get charged for driving places, in various areas of London.

Its a terrible idea, who wants to get bills all the time for driving places? It would price out lower income people from owning cars at all so their employment options will be reduced and more people will end up unemployed. That won't help the economy at all.

I’m not paying another penny while the benefits bill is so high. Sick to death of subsidising everyone else while drowning myself.