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AIBU to question people claiming they would happily pay more tax?

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Towerinthegarden · 05/09/2026 14:03

Yet another thread about should there be tax rises or spending cuts, and invariably you get a host of people coming out saying they are happy to pay more. Well you can https://www.gov.uk/guidance/voluntary-payments-donations-to-government

I’m pretty sure what they actually mean is I am happy to pay a tiny amount more on the understanding others will pay a lot more and then I’ll see the benefit. If that assumption is wrong why aren’t all these people saying they’re happy to pay more doing it?

Voluntary payments / donations to government

Find out how to make a voluntary contribution to government.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/voluntary-payments-donations-to-government

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concertinacornflake · 05/09/2026 16:13

moonraker0 · 05/09/2026 16:10

Because if they wanted to they could but instead they make excuses. If you say you want to pay more but don’t then you are lying, it’s really that simple otherwise people would do it. If you all wait around for it to be on your terms you’ll wait forever but I just see it as an excuse when presented with a way to pay extra tax.

They don't want to alone, they want to move to a different model. Many of those people pay to charities instead but would prefer those services to be provided by the state.

Argue against the model. Play the ball not the person.

moonraker0 · 05/09/2026 16:10

concertinacornflake · 05/09/2026 16:06

Why do you get to decide those who would pay more are lying?

You are being incredibly nerrowminded. There is always a group of voters in every survey who are willing to shift to a higher taxation model.

It's fine for you to say you wouldn't, but it's not ok for you to deny other people's political views.

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Because if they wanted to they could but instead they make excuses. If you say you want to pay more but don’t then you are lying, it’s really that simple otherwise people would do it. If you all wait around for it to be on your terms you’ll wait forever but I just see it as an excuse when presented with a way to pay extra tax.

concertinacornflake · 05/09/2026 16:06

Towerinthegarden · 05/09/2026 14:21

And that’s fine in my book, because it’s honest. What I don’t buy is people saying they’d happily pay more, but not!!

Why do you get to decide those who would pay more are lying?

You are being incredibly nerrowminded. There is always a group of voters in every survey who are willing to shift to a higher taxation model.

It's fine for you to say you wouldn't, but it's not ok for you to deny other people's political views.

HoppityBun · 05/09/2026 16:04

weeat · 05/09/2026 15:04

I’d pay more, but not voluntarily. It would need to be applied to all high rate tax payers. I am one, I already pay a whole heap, and I would pay more IF it was policy.

Same. The reason that I’m not signing the link is because it’s just a voluntary payment so you pay it and poof! it’s gone. You might just as well lose money in the lottery for all good it does.

I’ve always said that I would willingly pay more tax if it remained on our progressive system, for better and more comprehensive service services. I stick to that conviction. It’s quite selfish: society is better, healthier and more stable with a good and strong infrastructure and when it is more equal. The research conclusively shows that..

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 16:03

Itchthescratch · 05/09/2026 15:57

The posters saying that they would love to pay more tax but only for specific purposes are ridiculous or outcomes are being ridiculous. It's not how tax works. We elect governments and they spend the money. If you bang on about being happy to be taxed more then you have to accept your extra contribution could go towards anything and would quickly get consumed within the system. Your noble contribution of £10k for example would fund 10% of some children's SEN placement for a year or a few weeks in some care homes for an elderly person.

Tbf if someone wants to donate £10k they could to a local school, which would be appreciated.

BeardySchnauzer · 05/09/2026 16:00

ThisOliveKoala · 05/09/2026 15:11

I would happily pay more but my donation cannot be ring fenced for a particular area. If I could pay more and it goes to nhs for eg, I would be very happy.

I wouldn’t be happy to pay more and it goes to funding more strokes against Gaza for eg.

There are some European countries where you can actually state where your extra tax should go to.

But money is fungible

after I had my second baby we made a donation to the hospital - specifically the birth centre

Itchthescratch · 05/09/2026 15:57

The posters saying that they would love to pay more tax but only for specific purposes are ridiculous or outcomes are being ridiculous. It's not how tax works. We elect governments and they spend the money. If you bang on about being happy to be taxed more then you have to accept your extra contribution could go towards anything and would quickly get consumed within the system. Your noble contribution of £10k for example would fund 10% of some children's SEN placement for a year or a few weeks in some care homes for an elderly person.

NervousSheepy · 05/09/2026 15:51

Pluto46 · 05/09/2026 15:17

But how are you ever going to make schools better when they have to be all things to all people from potty training to dealing with every conceivable special need ever conceived. All whilst having no remit for discipline whatsoever

Yes and inclusion at all costs is ultimately damaging the experience of education. The classroom environment simply isn't the best place for some children, who may well thrive in a different environment. All deserve a good education, but the way it is delivered needs to be about what is best for the child.

welshgirl2025 · 05/09/2026 15:51

No I would not be happy paying more tax. This country is not short of money it is negligent in managing what it does have. Politicians give away billions in foreign aid (especially to Pakistan WHY?), millions to illegal immigrants whilst our public services are on its knees and our own people are neglected

NervousSheepy · 05/09/2026 15:47

At the moment I don't think it reasonable to ask people to pay more. I think there is too much waste and I think the wrong people often end up getting a lot out of our current system.

moonshinemadness · 05/09/2026 15:38

pucelleauxblanchesmains · 05/09/2026 15:15

What you will probably get in response is "ah, but it doesn't work unless everyone does it".

What people often mean is they think they'd be fine with it if they had no choice and they don't expect their tax to ever actually rise. In which case it's all very noble but also hypothetical. And they could always choose not to make use of ISAs or premium bonds...

Exactly 🤣

Its all bollocks - they say it because it makes them sound moral and virtuous but they dont actually mean it

Velumental · 05/09/2026 15:36

Towerinthegarden · 05/09/2026 14:23

But if everyone who claims they’re happy to pay more did it wouldn’t be a measly amount. Therefore my first claim is correct, you’re happy to pay a little more only if others pay a lot more.

Yes, that's how society works.

jeanne16 · 05/09/2026 15:35

It is so very easy to say you'd be happy to pay more tax. What they really mean is they want other people to pay more.

MNLurker1345 · 05/09/2026 15:31

@Towerinthegarden I am sure not many people knew of this before you posted it.

Please all you MNetters that say they would be happy to pay more tax on multiple political threads, do sign up and put your money where your mouth is.

Makebelieveanotherlife · 05/09/2026 15:22

101jobs · 05/09/2026 15:05

I absolutely do not want to pay more tax.

I am already paying way too much and I’m not happy with how it’s spent.

I agree with you OP by the way.

Same. I don’t know a single person who is happy to pay more too.

MNLurker1345 · 05/09/2026 15:17

I am a high tax payer already so no!

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 15:17

ThisOliveKoala · 05/09/2026 15:11

I would happily pay more but my donation cannot be ring fenced for a particular area. If I could pay more and it goes to nhs for eg, I would be very happy.

I wouldn’t be happy to pay more and it goes to funding more strokes against Gaza for eg.

There are some European countries where you can actually state where your extra tax should go to.

This could happen. Voluntary tax for those who want to pay more and say where you want it to go.

Pluto46 · 05/09/2026 15:17

Harrumphhhh · 05/09/2026 14:06

I’d happily pay more if I felt it would make a difference to education funding. I presume my measly extra alone wouldn’t make much difference. Increased taxation across the board could significantly improve schools, which in there would improve outcomes for younger people, lead to them earning higher wages, paying more taxes, etc.

But how are you ever going to make schools better when they have to be all things to all people from potty training to dealing with every conceivable special need ever conceived. All whilst having no remit for discipline whatsoever

pucelleauxblanchesmains · 05/09/2026 15:15

What you will probably get in response is "ah, but it doesn't work unless everyone does it".

What people often mean is they think they'd be fine with it if they had no choice and they don't expect their tax to ever actually rise. In which case it's all very noble but also hypothetical. And they could always choose not to make use of ISAs or premium bonds...

geumsun · 05/09/2026 15:11

I won't pay more as things currently stand. I've also reduced my earnings purposely over the last few years because way too much was going on tax.

Once they've sorted out the fiscal drag on income tax and VAT, I will think about throwing some more money into the coffers.

ThisOliveKoala · 05/09/2026 15:11

I would happily pay more but my donation cannot be ring fenced for a particular area. If I could pay more and it goes to nhs for eg, I would be very happy.

I wouldn’t be happy to pay more and it goes to funding more strokes against Gaza for eg.

There are some European countries where you can actually state where your extra tax should go to.

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 15:08

Towerinthegarden · 05/09/2026 15:06

Between January 2003 and 13 March 2024, HM Treasury received 137 voluntary donations totalling £4,111,587.79.

That works out at roughly £196,000 a year over the period, although the average is heavily affected by a small number of very large donations. For example, voluntary donations totalled £972,622 in 2010 and £1.19 million in 2020, but only £28,212 in 2023.

So the best official figure for people voluntarily giving additional money to the UK government is around £4.1 million over 21 years. Which is absolutely tiny, and doesn’t touch the sides of the dozens of people who claim they’d happily pay more.

Apparently a bunch of millionaires are very keen to pay more too. Good news, they can.

Towerinthegarden · 05/09/2026 15:06

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 14:56

Ik it’s often said but probably never done.

Between January 2003 and 13 March 2024, HM Treasury received 137 voluntary donations totalling £4,111,587.79.

That works out at roughly £196,000 a year over the period, although the average is heavily affected by a small number of very large donations. For example, voluntary donations totalled £972,622 in 2010 and £1.19 million in 2020, but only £28,212 in 2023.

So the best official figure for people voluntarily giving additional money to the UK government is around £4.1 million over 21 years. Which is absolutely tiny, and doesn’t touch the sides of the dozens of people who claim they’d happily pay more.

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101jobs · 05/09/2026 15:05

I absolutely do not want to pay more tax.

I am already paying way too much and I’m not happy with how it’s spent.

I agree with you OP by the way.

weeat · 05/09/2026 15:04

I’d pay more, but not voluntarily. It would need to be applied to all high rate tax payers. I am one, I already pay a whole heap, and I would pay more IF it was policy.