AIBU to want spending cuts rather than more tax rises?

Because they aren’t been given money for nothing, they are earning it

I find threads like these hard.
I'm (just) a 40% tax payer.
My DSis has a motability vehicle and gets PIP. She's younger than me but had an accident and is disabled. Sometimes wheelchair, sometimes crutches when she is doing better. She can't work as has to rest a lot. She makes the absolute best of it but it's not a life anyone would wish for. Every time I go to London I see the dripping wealth in Knightsbridge etc (not all parts of London, specific parts) and wonder why our poorest and most vulnerable are the focus of our money saving/generating as opposed to our richest.

Let me guess, you live up north, and work for Andy, with that very specific property tax figure?

Those of us with more expensive properties generally (apart from the very rich) have less disposable income as our mortgages are higher. Living in an expensive area doesn't necessarily mean we earn more - the nhs pays the same whether you live in the south east or north east. And I'm sure I will get 'well you could always move somewhere cheaper' - not so easy in the current job market, and with elderly relatives to care for.

The previous NI rises have already crippled nhs and schools, as it goes up for employers as well as employees, as well as having a huge impact on private business, impacting on economy and likely leading to a reduced ratherthan increased tax take

Your question is too simplistic.

Cut child benefit completely - the number of people on here who save the child benefit to pay for driving lessons is ridiculous.

The pension needs to be means tested. I know - shock horror!

But they do it in Australia with the superannuation system, and it works well.

Judging from the first few pages on here, many would like to.

It should really be highlighted and advertised as an option. Lots of people trust the govt to spend tax wisely and want to give them more.

It should be added as an option on the HMRC app.

Haven’t rtft but here’s the link for anyone wanting to pay more tax.

https://advisingfamilies.org/uk/information-portal/managing-money/can-i-pay-more-tax-voluntarily/

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They did use real tax figures, and then even did the percentages for you.

I think we're realising that not only do you have no clue about what people are taxed (despite your strong opinion that it isn't enough...) but you also can't do basic maths.

Weren't you the poster who insulted a pp's education, when she has a masters in engineering?

And made a rather rude comment about me too?

Hmmm.

How many kids do you have?

I think if people were paying £30k tax on £200000 paye we wouldn’t be having this conversation 😁

I disagree with cutting jobs in the civil service - we need more people working and not fewer. I’d rather my taxes be spent on people working and doing bullshit jobs than be spent on benefits for them becuse there are no jobs to do. I’d also like the nhs to employ all the currently out of work health care professionals - if the shit show we have is costing the figures I’ve seen here, an extra billion on physios and nurses is neither here nor there. But then I don’t think the nhs should be completely free anymore and we should have a more European attitude to healthcare.

Surely, we need to remove the triple lock. It costs c12billion per year more than if pensions just tracked average earnings increases. With changing demographics, It’s become unaffordable.

Someone on £20k isn't even doing a full time minimum wage job - yet will still be topped up to cover their housing, and extra to live on to a more than acceptable standard. Not just the basics at all. As well as free money, they get cheaper bills (social tarifs), reduced council tax, free prescriptions and opticians, and even reduced attractions entrance as we learned recently! As well as free access to state provided services - free medical care, education etc - which cost the state an average of £10k per person each year.

Sure, they'll be paying £2k tax per year. (assuming you meant they actually earned the £20k. If the £20k was benefits, they're paying nada). It comes nowhere near covering even the services they get, let alone the handouts.

Whereas someone on £200k is handing over £82k tax. And not getting any of those tax discounts or free extras.

How the hell can you suggest that they're paying "the same rate of tax" ?

The £20k earner is a net recipient - paid for by absolutely huge amounts of redistribution from the £200k earner.

You're right that it's not fair. And you'll only realise how greedy you are when it's too late - when you've pushed it too far, and those high earners have stopped massively subsidising you.

Some great ideas here. Scrap the House of Lords. Biggest waste of money and completely irrelevant bunch of old farts. Scrap PIP and DLA for all but the most needy. Scrap PIP and DLA for MH/Anxiety/Depression and ensure they are receiving treatment and intervention for their MH issues rather than sitting at home and rinsing the taxpayer. Too many playing the system and if you think otherwise, you have no idea what is really going on.

Someone on 200k takes home c117k 🤦‍♀️

There is rough numbers and then there is 70’grand off.

That's just completely wrong

So why did your SIL agreed to pay cash in hand? She should've gone all above the board and pay via bank. This would cost her much more because that Maltese lady would have to pay tax and wouldn't be able to claim benefits.
Don't you see that it's your SIL's fault?

I'm literally taking rough numbers of net take home off the table the op has posted not using real world taxation figures.

But I want you to tell me what point you are making with the link and how the information in the article relates to your point. Is appreciate the clarity

Yet the person on 20k takes home 17k and the person on 200k takes home 170k.

Do they?