AIBU to ask for advice on how to overturn a school decision - quickly

I didn't ask for your feedback and you don't have to like my approach - it only has to work for me and my family. Maybe check your own tone before you tell others to grow up. Muppet.

The fact that you're still whining on my post tells me everything I need to know about you and your lack of logic and common sense.

Yes, I will continue to be a piss poor parent who allows my child to have a phone in their bag incase of an emergency when they are out. I’ll call SS myself right now.

I use my phone for eveything. Becuase it’s handy. I no longer have to have a Pc, a laptop, separate stuff for work, banking, paying for things. It gives me more time. What you call an unhealthy addiction, I call living in the modern world.

Fucks sake, YOU are posting on the internet. That’s what makes me laugh.

They're clearly a troll...🙄

There’s nothing wrong with internet usage.

There’s absolutely everything wrong with having an unhealthy addiction to your phone.

So I can use the Internet if I buy a laptop? I can use it if it’s not on a phone.

PHEW!

Are you this exhausting in real life?

They have lots of draconian rules, appear very rigid and authoritarian. I can grit my teeth on those. I cannot grit my teeth on this one.

You know you signed up for a draconian school @Canwehavesesomesanityback

You either take how they work, or you don't.

They aren't going to change. You'll be teaching your DD poorly if you enable her to break this rule. She will learn from your example.

I wouldn't teach my DD this lesson personally, but if you want to create a teen who thinks it's ok to flout their school's rules, then go ahead.

Why so hyperbolic? If your own points have merit then you don’t need to make things up or exaggerate.

I said phone use is fine in moderation. That is different to you claiming it is essential.

Where did I say it was essential for everyone?

It’s essential for ME because I’ve streamlined my life that way. It means I get to spend more time than ever with my children as I can be with them and have my work at my fingertips - I no longer have to physically be there or have to be in front of a computer. I prefer life this way.

My terrible phone addiction means I can spend more time with my younger children than I ever did with my 24 year old while I was working.

I struggle to read threads when only 1/5 of the actual story is being told

My children's school thankfully have a sensible approach - phones off and out of sight during school hours.

We live a 50 mile round trip from school. I want to be able to hit the call button on my dash that sends the call straight to them and tell them if I have hit traffic and going to be late. Not have to find somewhere to pull over on 60mph rural roads or motorway, get ny phone out, phone school, wait for them to answer (a challenge in itself), and hope that they can find them on the road outside school and remember to pass thr message on, which in my experience, is not great

This is the issue we have with DDs after school provision. They have banned phones in that setting too (within the school), so now, you have to rely on calling the school to tell them what time you will be there.

Previously, they had an out of sight phone policy during school hours only.

Its caused massive issues in the last few days.

As a teacher, the minute I leave the school building, I wouldn’t give a toss if I saw a kid using their phone. This coming from a teacher who works in a school where there is no restriction and it is AWFUL. Refusal from kids to put them away, constantly using them under the desk, kids walking to the toilet during class time while scrolling. Parents don’t seem to care - often they’re the phones calling mid-lesson! So I definitely wouldn’t give 2 hoots if I saw a child outside of school hours on their phone 🙄

Huge difference between being able to text your mum and being so addicted that it impacts your ability to learn, play, focus, concentrate and treat others well in real life. Sadly that’s what schools are seeing right from early primary level. Try being in a first year primary classroom where every need for attention and longing for a dopamine hit has been met by an iPad since they could hold up their own head. And now all screens have been removed and they are expected to play imaginatively and share and make friends. No that doesn’t apply to every parent or child. But teaching at primary level it’s edging scarily close to a majority in some year groups. Huge levels of ASN being diagnosed - do you know what looks similar to ADHD? Being unable to regulate because a screen has done it for you since birth. Being unable to have conversations and make eye contact looks like autism. It also looks like a child who has never been taken out of the house without an iPad attached to the buggy or mums phone on hand in the car. Anyone who doesn’t think child screen use is impacting our future generations needs to do one day in a school.

It staggers me that grown adults are believing this made up story. Probably a Home Ed Parent stirring the pot as they have been abundant with their smug posts during back to school time.

I am taking about having a phone for the way too and from school incase you run into any difficulties.

Not saying they should be on it 24/7.

As it ever was.

I home educated one of mine for a few years and Christ, it was just embarrassing at this time of year.

I find the whole banning phones from school weird! My kids they order their lunch via their phone at reg (can do this manually but means a long queue) and in some subjects are expected to use it to look stuff up.
I absolutely think if they are told to have phones away and they don't punishment should follow but a blanket ban no.

But they don’t put them away. As others have said, they film each other and staff and cause dangerous situations. All they can think about is getting their next “hit” from it so they can’t focus. Some research has found the hit from scrolling shows up brighter on a brain scan than cocaine. It’s not the children’s fault, it’s the parents giving the children an adult tool and expecting them to manage it before their frontal lobe is fully developed.

Hi! Teacher here. No I would not and neither would ANY of my colleagues be chasing a child down the street to steal their phones. Do not be so ridiculous.
secondly, my school has a no phone rule and has for years. No phones in bags even if off. It has worked, children more alert, less bullying and less distraction.
some parents have moaned of course but have got nowhere, the rule isn’t going to change.

There aren’t even pay phones around these days - how are they meant to get help on their journey to from school? Report a crime? Ring an ambulance? All things they would not be able to do if needed.

The rules are ridiculous.

You aren't telling the truth. Schools don't chase children down the road. Teachers don't even leave school til gone 4 in most cases. Children are allowed phones to and from school, they have no jurisdiction on that, many need them for their bus passes to get to school. They are not allowed them whilst IN school. My kids school has a locked pouch and it blocks the signal whilst at school. On the way out of school it's unlocked so they can merrily use it after school. I support it schools are for learning not being on phones.

Not one pay phone on the 15 minute route to my school which I walked alone from age 9-16, phoneless. Can’t believe I’m alive at 36. Also, where do you live that reporting an in the moment crime occurring is a regular occurrence for children walking to school?

All the teachers on this post are lying unfortunately, I and every other teacher in the country spent Tuesday INSET doing a special high speed driving training course so that we can in fact chase down the students using the bus passes on their phone at 7pm. We also have pepper spray for those that don’t willingly comply so I suggest when we catch them they hand it over first time.

Wasn't he daughter actually safe anyway? Presumably the girl is safe at home now, unharmed.