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AIBU to ask for advice on how to overturn a school decision - quickly

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Canwehavesesomesanityback · 05/09/2026 08:36

What can I do to overturn a school decision - quickly? It is regarding mobile phones. The school has introduced a no phones at school policy. If a teacher is on a journey home and sees a child on a phone, they will “chase them down the street and snatch it out of their hand” as it shows they had a phone in school.

There was a horrible and frightening incident fairly near school today. So whilst school were busying themself with catching children out for taking a blazer off at a bus stop or using a phone after school, my child was involved in something bloody terrifying. I’ve been up half the night. It should involve the police, but we are not going down that road and time would have been of the essence anyway. My husband was driving about a minute away from her at the time, happily oblivious. I’m shaken up, but also feel in an impossible situation.

This occurred close to school, with a couple of friends, in daylight with people nearby. Her journey also includes much larger elements where she’s on her own and secluded. I’m really fucking angry and revolted too (huge understatement) that the school have the power to dictate the removal of a tool for use outside of school, compromising my child’s safety.

As a bare minimum, I want a brick phone allowed in school - turned off, handed in, confiscated if used or seen - I don’t care. I want them to find a way that the other 97% of schools do, so that my child has access to a phone, even if it’s just a brick phone, should she need it out of school.

They have lots of draconian rules, appear very rigid and authoritarian. I can grit my teeth on those. I cannot grit my teeth on this one. It’s a very large academy, gives the impression so far that “we are always right and totally trustworthy” and others will have it wrong or lie. Please help. How best to approach a school that seems terrified of giving an inch, (whilst it simultaneously encroaches the fuck and takes miles) to get an outcome that will make my child safer out of school.

If you’ve read this far, please help. I also believe from what I’ve seen so far that if I raise this, the school will frequently check my daughter’s bag. I am willing to now break the rules on this, but obviously can’t keep replacing mobiles and she shouldn’t have to be punished by school for it either.

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TheDenimPoet · 05/09/2026 15:07

KarcherK5 · 05/09/2026 08:44

How do you know that she doesn’t need a phone, when her own parents know her, know her route home, know that parts of it are secluded, and believe that she does in fact need a phone for her safety? I wouldn’t go walking around secluded places alone without my phone, I can’t imagine why you expect a child to.

Look, if a kid is walking somewhere secluded, and someone wants to harm them, they will do so very quickly, and a phone won't save them. It's all excuses to why "their" child should have a phone.

Sassylovesbooks · 05/09/2026 15:04

I can't imagine any member of staff, in a secondary school, chasing down students after school, for using a phone. Most staff are still in school once the students leave, they don't generally leave at the same time. A member of staff can't 'snatch' a phone off a student, it would be completely against professional guidelines as a teacher, especially outside of the school grounds. A teacher has no more right to do this, than anyone else has!

Unless you've personally seen a member of staff snatch a phone off a student outside of the school grounds, then I'd say this is a highly exaggerated statement made by a student who's misunderstood or has an over active imagination! Do some due diligence and please check this with the school!

I've worked in schools a long time, and in my humble experience, children exaggerate at best and lie at worst! Even the most honest of children will exaggerate (including my own teenage son!). It's a right of passage, exaggeration, for teenagers.

Banning of mobile phones has come from the government, but schools are choosing how they implement that ban.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/09/2026 15:02

Neverstopwondering · 05/09/2026 12:58

This

And I work in a secondary school

When their school welfare room stopped giving paracetamol for periods or headaches because of change in policy. I just stuffed paracetamol in the bottom of their bag on days I thought they were well enough for school but might not manage without a couple of paracetamol midday.

Most secondary school age children are smart enough to understand to keep hidden from other students and staff things like a phone or medication if you tell them too. If not then just don't give them such items because they probably shouldn't have unsupervised in that case.

Since when were school staff qualified doctors or pharmacists? It was never a change in policy - it was the Law.

I lost count of the number of times kids would come in asking for this apocryphal supply of paracetamol/nurofen/antihistamines/inhalers for kids who didn't have an asthma diagnosis and it would turn out that they'd already had three paracetamol, a sudafed max strength and a Lemsip at 7am (it was 8.30) and had they not been questioned, chances are that they would have got another two paracetamol from a mate, then more at break, lunch and at the end of the day - and, tbh, being told no, it's not possible, they could have still gone and got another 8 from various kids whose parents thought they knew better and then had another 4-6 in the evening.

User3627282646322244 · 05/09/2026 14:59

My sons always took his. He uses it to and from school but thankfully is really good at remembering to put it away during the school day. I honestly don’t think the teachers can dictate on what happens after school has finished, I’m planning to send my daughter who’s starting in year 7 with hers, again same as above in bag and turned off.

i feel more comfortable with them having a phone on them than not at all the school is only 8 miles away but the bus has been known to be late/not turn up at all/break down/turn around and go back to school on the ay home due to terrible behaviour from a small group of students!

Fattypantss · 05/09/2026 14:59

SparklingTurquoiseOcean · 05/09/2026 14:49

An actual friend of mine who is a home ed parent posted that they set up a picnic near the local primary school and laughed at the Children queuing to go inside their prison.

Oh god, I went to a few “not back to school” picnics that were just awful. The terrible things they would say about schools and children who went to them. I can completely imagine that happening.

I liked home educating for the time we did it, but I tended to steer clear of a lot of other home educating families, some were just unhinged. I was dropped like a hot stone when we sent ds to school!

Walkaround · 05/09/2026 14:57

Canwehavesesomesanityback · 05/09/2026 08:36

What can I do to overturn a school decision - quickly? It is regarding mobile phones. The school has introduced a no phones at school policy. If a teacher is on a journey home and sees a child on a phone, they will “chase them down the street and snatch it out of their hand” as it shows they had a phone in school.

There was a horrible and frightening incident fairly near school today. So whilst school were busying themself with catching children out for taking a blazer off at a bus stop or using a phone after school, my child was involved in something bloody terrifying. I’ve been up half the night. It should involve the police, but we are not going down that road and time would have been of the essence anyway. My husband was driving about a minute away from her at the time, happily oblivious. I’m shaken up, but also feel in an impossible situation.

This occurred close to school, with a couple of friends, in daylight with people nearby. Her journey also includes much larger elements where she’s on her own and secluded. I’m really fucking angry and revolted too (huge understatement) that the school have the power to dictate the removal of a tool for use outside of school, compromising my child’s safety.

As a bare minimum, I want a brick phone allowed in school - turned off, handed in, confiscated if used or seen - I don’t care. I want them to find a way that the other 97% of schools do, so that my child has access to a phone, even if it’s just a brick phone, should she need it out of school.

They have lots of draconian rules, appear very rigid and authoritarian. I can grit my teeth on those. I cannot grit my teeth on this one. It’s a very large academy, gives the impression so far that “we are always right and totally trustworthy” and others will have it wrong or lie. Please help. How best to approach a school that seems terrified of giving an inch, (whilst it simultaneously encroaches the fuck and takes miles) to get an outcome that will make my child safer out of school.

If you’ve read this far, please help. I also believe from what I’ve seen so far that if I raise this, the school will frequently check my daughter’s bag. I am willing to now break the rules on this, but obviously can’t keep replacing mobiles and she shouldn’t have to be punished by school for it either.

I don’t believe for a single second that any school in the UK has a policy that includes the wording, “chase them down the street and snatch it out of their hand,” so why the random quotation marks?

What is the school’s actual policy, minus hyperbole, on mobile phones? Actual wording would help give more actually helpful responses.

SparklingTurquoiseOcean · 05/09/2026 14:56

aliceyyyy2654 · 05/09/2026 14:50

What an incredibly strange thing to do

I told her it was incredibly disappointing

Fattypantss · 05/09/2026 14:56

waitinginwonderland · 05/09/2026 14:50

Great. Now if the other 1699 parents in my local high school could do the same we’d be all set 👌

I’m not saying it’s not an issue. I can only talk about ME.

Dds school have pretty strong sanctions for phones being seen, they have done for a long while.

If it’s seen it’s confiscated for the day in the first instance, then a week, then a term. Parents have to collect it when it’s released between 9 and 10 am.

It’s an all girls grammar though where on the whole, they are all pretty well behaved.

Our local school where a lot of her friends went do have a lot of issues with phones and teachers being filmed on social media. But they have a lot of issues in general (the metal detector arch on the way in due to kids bringing in knives tells you all you need to know).

MonetsLilac · 05/09/2026 14:52

MyEasterBonnet · 05/09/2026 14:50

Teachers aren’t leaving at the same time as the kids to be able to see them walking home on a phone. They’re also not jumping out of their cars to take a phone from a child outside of school property. Just have the phone switched off in the bag and make sure it’s not seen. There’ll only be an issue if it’s seen or heard in school, and if it is then it deserves to be taken.

This ⬆️. That's what students do and it's fine.

MonetsLilac · 05/09/2026 14:51

Crispsandcola · 05/09/2026 14:50

Which teachers are volunteering (after school so not a mandatory part of the job) to chase children down in the street and steal their property? 🤔 Sorry, I don't believe this is a real school policy.

Of course it isn't.

waitinginwonderland · 05/09/2026 14:50

Fattypantss · 05/09/2026 14:48

Okay, well mine couldn’t film on hers even if she wanted to.

It doesn’t even have snake on it.

Great. Now if the other 1699 parents in my local high school could do the same we’d be all set 👌

MyEasterBonnet · 05/09/2026 14:50

Teachers aren’t leaving at the same time as the kids to be able to see them walking home on a phone. They’re also not jumping out of their cars to take a phone from a child outside of school property. Just have the phone switched off in the bag and make sure it’s not seen. There’ll only be an issue if it’s seen or heard in school, and if it is then it deserves to be taken.

Crispsandcola · 05/09/2026 14:50

Which teachers are volunteering (after school so not a mandatory part of the job) to chase children down in the street and steal their property? 🤔 Sorry, I don't believe this is a real school policy.

aliceyyyy2654 · 05/09/2026 14:50

SparklingTurquoiseOcean · 05/09/2026 14:49

An actual friend of mine who is a home ed parent posted that they set up a picnic near the local primary school and laughed at the Children queuing to go inside their prison.

What an incredibly strange thing to do

EvilNextDoor · 05/09/2026 14:50

Our school have allowed years 8-11 a mobile phone but it has to be switched off and in the bottom of their bag during the school day. It’s a blanket ban on all year 7’s.

We live rurally and the bus has kicked my children off the bus 5/6 miles from home - I’ve had to go and collect them. Without them having their phones I wouldn’t have been able to find them and quite probably had to call the police.

whilst I think our government is completely bonkers about this the idiots have indeed mandated it so unless I home school I have to abide by it.

Ive never known a teacher to be bothered to chase a child down after the school day has finished…

waitinginwonderland · 05/09/2026 14:49

iwishtoo · 05/09/2026 14:46

Guidance to schools is changing about use of phones in school. And you may find it informative to look at the research about the impact of smartphone use on developing brains. The website Smartphone Free Childhood is a good info source.

They’ve got a good Facebook group (oh the irony 🤣) that is very supportive! We looked at the research that the 1000 Hours Outside challenge stemmed from, way back when DSD was a toddler. It’s US based but essentially they found that children under 18 were spending an average of 1000 hours per year in front of a screen, and challenged families to equal that with outside hours. We’ve done it every year since and it’s great motivation, she’s 11 now and still likes to colour her tracker!

SparklingTurquoiseOcean · 05/09/2026 14:49

Fattypantss · 05/09/2026 14:30

As it ever was.

I home educated one of mine for a few years and Christ, it was just embarrassing at this time of year.

An actual friend of mine who is a home ed parent posted that they set up a picnic near the local primary school and laughed at the Children queuing to go inside their prison.

stopbeingnasty · 05/09/2026 14:49

Mooselander · 05/09/2026 08:44

No child needs a phone. Neither does an adult, come to that.

Okay genius. If you get assaulted in a dark alleyway, what's the first thing you're doing?

aliceyyyy2654 · 05/09/2026 14:49

Your daughter is the minority and you know that.

Fattypantss · 05/09/2026 14:48

waitinginwonderland · 05/09/2026 14:35

But they don’t put them away. As others have said, they film each other and staff and cause dangerous situations. All they can think about is getting their next “hit” from it so they can’t focus. Some research has found the hit from scrolling shows up brighter on a brain scan than cocaine. It’s not the children’s fault, it’s the parents giving the children an adult tool and expecting them to manage it before their frontal lobe is fully developed.

Okay, well mine couldn’t film on hers even if she wanted to.

It doesn’t even have snake on it.

aliceyyyy2654 · 05/09/2026 14:48

KarcherK5 · 05/09/2026 14:45

That’s quite a presumption. She hasn’t told us what the incident was or how her daughter is now.

Considering she has time to make an insane mumsnet post and not with police/hospital I would assume her daughter is perfectly fine. If not, then her priorities are skewed and her daughter has other problems aka parents with issues.

iwishtoo · 05/09/2026 14:46

Crocsforlife · 05/09/2026 14:34

I find the whole banning phones from school weird! My kids they order their lunch via their phone at reg (can do this manually but means a long queue) and in some subjects are expected to use it to look stuff up.
I absolutely think if they are told to have phones away and they don't punishment should follow but a blanket ban no.

Guidance to schools is changing about use of phones in school. And you may find it informative to look at the research about the impact of smartphone use on developing brains. The website Smartphone Free Childhood is a good info source.

KarcherK5 · 05/09/2026 14:45

Mapletree1985 · 05/09/2026 14:42

Wasn't he daughter actually safe anyway? Presumably the girl is safe at home now, unharmed.

That’s quite a presumption. She hasn’t told us what the incident was or how her daughter is now.

MonetsLilac · 05/09/2026 14:43

This clearly isn't the school for your DC. Why did you apply for a place there? Start the procedure for transfer to another school.

Mapletree1985 · 05/09/2026 14:42

Notaninfluencertype · 05/09/2026 14:40

All the teachers on this post are lying unfortunately, I and every other teacher in the country spent Tuesday INSET doing a special high speed driving training course so that we can in fact chase down the students using the bus passes on their phone at 7pm. We also have pepper spray for those that don’t willingly comply so I suggest when we catch them they hand it over first time.

Now that's what I call teaching those kids a lesson!

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