To wonder if Reform voters actually realise that Farage and his cronies are responsible for the increase in migrant boats reaching the UK

Good news today, a group of 5 EU countries have been given the go ahead to process and hold migrants in a non EU country and then return them home. Hopefully this will lead the way for us.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of PP bleating about accusing WC people of stupidity, then trying to belittle a WC person who disagrees with them for writing something incorrectly.

I'm not sure what your point is ?

I've typed a word incorrectly. Are you genuinely asking me what that word is, because you can't work it out? Or are you simply drawing attention to my error to sneer at me, belittle me and imply I'm stupid because you despise working class people?
(See what I did there?)

Another string of clichés.

Exploitatating us?

Out of interest, for the people who support Reform, how much a week should be given to the people who as you say haven't put in? Can I have a rough amount to what you think is acceptable?

PMSL. I couldn't be further from the descriptions on this list if I tried!

You're barking up the wrong tree with me I'm afraid. I don't despise people on benefits or low incomes. I'm a working class woman from a deprived area who's spent most of my career in roles supporting people others look down on. I don't mock ordinary people, so clearly you and I differ on that. The only people I despise are the corrupt chancers getting rich from exploitating us.
So save your feeble attempts to portray me as sneering at the ordinary folk in order to justify your support for a party who will bring us nothing but harm to feather their own nests. Its tiresome, its old and it doesn't wash anymore I'm afraid.

I think they are moved to other accommodation after the initial accommodation.

Do you think Reform will ignore those whispers from big business?

Farage and Reform are gaining popularity because neither of the two main parties have done anything about a variety of migration routes, legal and illegal, which bring in people who are a net cost to the UK.

Labour won't do enough because too many of their rank and file MPs are not prepared to say

• yes, we hear your distressing story but don't believe you and think you are actually an economic migrant, your asylum claim is rejected
• no, you can't bring your mum to live with you, she's too old to work, speaks no English, and will be a drain on the healthcare system.
• OK, we understand that when you came to work in this country there was a path to citizenship in place for people like you, but the rules have now changed, so sorry for your disappointment but the best we can now offer is an extension on your working visa.

The Tories have proved that they will say all the above right up to the point where big business whispers in their ear that they want a cheaper workforce, then it's a different story.

Farage and reform don't want the boats to stop. They want them there as a permanent scapegoat to point the finger at

As long as they can whip up a frenzy from about 30% of the population then they can win seats.

Then they'll properly and irreversibly fuck the country while enriching their backers at the cost of you and me

He's not a patriot, he's not on your side. He's a cunt who just wants to enrich himself and his mates

He's not on your side. Unless you're a billonaire who donated to him

I think they are moved to other accommodation after the initial accommodation.

That doesn’t seem right.
While their claim is being processed the government must house them.

After they are granted or refused asylum, then they only have 42 days to get themselves sorted or present themselves to whichever council they intend to claim housing off.

Illegal immigrants have no recourse to public funds and asylum seekers also cannot claim benefits.
Asylum seekers get £49 a week to buy food, clothing and anything else they may need. If the place they are housed in provides food this drops to less than £10.
Many become homeless as initial accommodation is only provided for 3-4 weeks.

The benefits system in the uk is contributing to an increase in immigrants. And the fact we speak English.
And we’re so inclusive ! Anyone who disagrees is just racist.

I think that support for Reform is a big issue. Its ousted your party of choice into a poor third place, effectively replacing them as the viable alternative to the government, and at one time looked like it would pose a serious threat to mine.
I've said before, given I support the encumbent government, the three horse race and possible hung parliament doesn't concern me. But I'd have thought those who hate Labour would be interested in Reforms prospects and discussing people's motives for keeping them in the game, when there seem so many reasons for people to have lost confidence in them.

And some can’t get past a dig to Reform voters. It’s on pretty much any political thread.

I don’t agree with it, there are bigger issues to discuss.

There isn’t an increase atm.

Numbers are significantly down this year.

No thanks to NF, obviously.

But yes, Brexit made it much harder to deal with.

Its a stereotype though, isn't it? The sneering superior 'leftie', the uncaring bootstrap Tory, the stupid Reform voter. Its a little hypocritical to object to one while attributing it to your stereotype of another.
The only position on this that has a hope of the high ground is one that stereotypes no one and judges a poster on the content of their post rather than the party they support.
You can't get past your need to dig at Labour voters, other people can't get past theirs to have a go at Reform supporters. Neither is better than the other.

Oh well. It’s there, it builds a picture of how some, whose voting is often obvious, speak about people.