School want to trial a part time timetable after just 2 weeks at the school - WWYD?

An alternative, if this hasn't been suggested already, is for him to do afternoons and as he is successful bring his start time forward. This works brilliantly for many children as it means they are successful and not getting home early if they misbehave

I’ve never known the decision to be based on staff wellbeing!! It’s always been based on the needs of the child. Certainly at the school I work at.

Ask school to find an appropriate alternative provision (AP) for the afternoon.
You can then call for an early EHCP review and request that the option for AP is written in.
I have worked with students who have flourished with this type of combined approach to education.

I agree.

We may tag team for certain children to ensure that no staff member is trying to deal with it alone but we wouldn’t exclude or reduce timetable based on that.

we spend a lot of time juggling things to meet the needs of everyone but the decisions made are always what is best for the child, or what we hope is for the best for them!

Instead of coming home is there somewhere quiet he could work in school in the afternoons with his 1:1 ?

So many people making alternative suggestions. School teachers and SENCO’s have experience. SENCO is a formal qualification with knowledge and experience. The suggestion to do mornings only will be made after considering all options and deciding what’s best for the child and what is realistic.

I imagine he’s refusing to, what with all the swearing and walking out of class.

Unfortunately, not all schools are supportive of SEN and not all have a proper understanding of SEN law (or choose to disregard it). It isn’t mandatory to have the NPQSENCO prior to beginning the role as a SENCO, so, no, not all hold a formal qualification. While many schools make lawful decisions in the best interests of pupils, not all do, which is why unlawful informal exclusions is not a rare problem.

And why do so many LSA's make the assumption all send children are like that?

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Absolutely agree.
I’m usually nursery based but a couple of years ago I scooted across to year 1 in the afternoons to support a child out of class.

This. Ask for for a review. I totally feel for you as I used to have to make these difficult decisions for children who were struggling so much in mainstream. Sometimes the only way they could cope was to do half days in mainstream then transfer to specialist in the afternoon. But provision is so patchy.
Basically you have to keep on at the school and the LA to fight for specialist provision. Be honest about the impact it is having at home on you too.
Wish you all the best x

go for a Sen school op, you will find he becomes a different kid

You obviously have your own experience to draw on but I know many boys who did not respond well to boundaries like this. They are all grown up now. Some are/ were in prison, despite their parents' efforts. Some badly hurt their parents.

I think it is very dangerous for strangers to suggest that people take steps, completely unsupported and unsupervised, which could actually cause them real harm.

Anyway it sounds to me like there is a lot more than adhd going on here.

You have said he won't take his meds sometimes - you are his parent. You need to ensure he does take his meds and you need to be honest with school that you are not ensuring he has his meds when he comes in.

Thank you for your reply. School have applied as I’ve been part of the whole process. Just before the summer holidays the LA wrote to me to confirm they agree to assess him for one. He’s already had an ed psych assessment earlier in the year so he’s already crossed some of the hurdles

School have applied as I’ve been part of the whole process. Just before the summer holidays the LA wrote to me to confirm they agree to assess him for one. He’s already had an ed psych assessment earlier in the year so he’s already crossed some of the hurdles

last year school sent home the work that he would have been doing in the afternoon and he completed the work at home with me (two of the days was just PE and the other three days were either topic or art)

they are out of the timescale but that’s due to the summer holidays, does that count?

There are some exceptions to the timescales. The exceptions are where it is impractical for the LA to comply with the timescales because:
a) the LA requested advice from the school during a period beginning one week before a date the school closes for 4+ weeks and ending one week before it re-opens and it isn't practicable for the LA to comply within 6 weeks.
b) like above but about early years.
c) exceptional personal circumstances affect you or DC during that time period.
d) you or DC are absent from the LA for 4+ weeks during the time.

Even if one of the exceptions applies, it isn’t a green light to do as they wish. They must comply as soon as practicable.

There’s not enough information in your post to say for certain if an exception applies or not. I thought your original post made it sound like you thought the school had requested a EHCNA earlier in the year but that might not be the case from your second post. What week are you on/when was the EHCNA requested? Did the LA comply with the 6 week timescale for informing you they were going to assess? Has the LA requested advice and information from the school yet, and if they have, when did they do that? Have you been on holiday for 4+ weeks? Were there exceptional circumstances that affected you/DC?

Have you requested all the necessary advice and information e.g. SALT, OT, CP? Is the existing EP report up to date and sufficient for EHCP purposes?

Work sent home doesn’t relieve the LA of their duty to provide s19 provision. You can request alternative provision.

Are you suggesting that the OP give her DS exactly what he wants in case he is violent?
You clearly don't know anything about behaviour.

I'd be getting rid of all computer games and if he has a phone, it would be a brick. Games are not a necessity. Coming home to play Xbox is just a reward for poor behaviour. Coming home to be bored makes school not so bad.

Possibly a good idea. His bad behaviour is disrupting others' learning. Maybe he could build it up to a full day over the year.

I have read your update. I am sorry to hear he has been violent with you. I know this is not uncommon. Do you have any support from.outside agencies? Is his dad on the scene?
In terms of just doing mornings, can you ask he does afternoon lessons at school, but in another room? Teachers set the work and he is supervised elsewhere. This is a pain for the teachers, i know I am a teacher, however sometimes it means the lesson can be taught potentially uninterrupted so a bit of extra work justifies the gain. Explain that no work will get done at home and why. Also, I would make the school completely aware what his behaviour is like at home. Do the school believe they can meet his need? Do they know of any different setting that will suit him.better? Work with them. They won't want to exclude him. I hope you can access support.

It’s not the start of them deciding mainstream isn’t going to work. Mainstream ISN’T working already. There’s a lot of factors to think about that include the disruption for other kids and distress to the teachers.

Have they confirmed that the dose of his meds in the correct one for him? I’m not a doctor, my son has ADHD and is medicated. He’s in year 4 now and the meds are the only way he is able to access school. We went on a reduced timetable in year 2, he was in an hour a day (sometimes 2) for 6 months and I home schooled while worked the rest of the time. It wasn’t until the end of this period that I got the right dose for meds and then he was able to manage a whole school day. The meds significant reduced the anger, violence, rudeness, disrespect. He’s honestly a different child now. I know every child is different, and I am by no means saying this will be the answer to your problems, but it may be worth looking at the meds.

The EA did not change but how people interpret it - and what is assumed it covers - certainly has.