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AIBU to share this Reform exposé from C4?

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Firetreev · 03/09/2026 21:51

To share this fantastic documentary exposing Reform for the crooks and traitors that they really are. Thank you for sharing @ihateboris

I'd recommend watching it to the end.

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GaIadriel · 05/09/2026 22:38

PerkingFaintly · 05/09/2026 22:35

Supposedly the young English guy should be eligible for benefits, from which he would pay for food just like everyone else on benefits.

But a lot of the drives to "crackdown on benefits" – very popular with the rightwing media – have created gaping holes through which people fall.

It's shit.

Yes, but the likelihood of any emergency accommodation in the meantime is defo not.guaranteed. You could be on the street the same day you get evicted.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/09/2026 22:36

GaIadriel · 05/09/2026 22:28

I've mentioned previously that my workplace is literally next to a migrant hotel - owned by the same woman who owns the land our plant is on.

I was at the lights turning into plant the other day and there was a young English guy asking for food. He didn't look like a crackhead and was asking for food rather than money. People were giving him bags of crisps and sandwiches they'd packed for work etc. And there was literally a food delivery going on in the carpark of the migrant hotel. It just seemed dystopian.

It's easy to call people intolerant online but actually seeing this stuff in person is uncomfortable. It's not about disliking anybody for their race (although certain cultural differences are problematic), it's just about realising it's insane to not be able to house our own population yet not effectively manage how many people we take in and house/provide for.

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I absolutely agree that allowing homeless people to go hungry is a stain on our society.

However, I don't agree that asylum seekers are the cause of this.

We don't have to choose between supporting vulnerable British people and vulnerable asylum seekers. We just need the political will to make change happen.

Arguably, the constant focus on migration is just a distraction for government which gets in the way of them dealing with the real challenges that our society faces.

Warmlight1 · 05/09/2026 22:35

Isn't there some sort of health and safety angle here.

PerkingFaintly · 05/09/2026 22:35

Supposedly the young English guy should be eligible for benefits, from which he would pay for food just like everyone else on benefits.

But a lot of the drives to "crackdown on benefits" – very popular with the rightwing media – have created gaping holes through which people fall.

It's shit.

Warmlight1 · 05/09/2026 22:34

BermudaRhombus · 05/09/2026 16:06

It is quite bizarre - there are clearly security guards dealing with the situation. Most audience members would stand back and let them do their job. But for some reason two elderly participants decide to grab her hair and hit her with a stick.

I've been reading some posts querying - how that could unfold
Like- the woman whom protested in the previous conference was let back in, so that....she could protest again?
And the two most aggressive/ vulnerable participants in the conference just happened to be right by her and also pre prepared was Nigel with a power point of ' Boring' and quip about sociology degrees.
So- where was the risk assessment outlining roles in the event of a protest/ fracas and why wouldn't a leader in that situation immediately appeal for calm. Or remain silent.
Did the risk assessment include the actions he took and words he said?
' She appears to have hurt herself'
well did he see it or didn't he? It lasted more than a moment.
So where did this 5 million go because he can't have engaged with his security team on a safety plan. That's no one's professional plan.

GaIadriel · 05/09/2026 22:34

PerkingFaintly · 05/09/2026 22:26

I work in the construction sector with a lot of self employed men that are one workplace injury away from being unable to work and being given a tent and sleeping bag.

This is exactly what disability benefits exist for. You know, the ones Reform wants to cut? And housing benefits.

I've had to leave work because of becoming disabled. I was lucky enough to be in employment rather than self-employment so went onto Contributory benefits rather than just means-tested, which has saved me a small degree of degradation in terms of having my bank-accounts combed through. Still have to go through the even more soul-destroying disability assessments though, and the lying assessors and the appeals and reinstatements.

It's deeply shit, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But this is why we have disability benefits.

I wasn't really talking about becoming disabled, although it's absolutely something that could happen. Literally a broken leg could be enough for somebody to not be able to pay their rent if their solution was already precarious. And at that point it's hello tent.

GaIadriel · 05/09/2026 22:28

I've mentioned previously that my workplace is literally next to a migrant hotel - owned by the same woman who owns the land our plant is on.

I was at the lights turning into plant the other day and there was a young English guy asking for food. He didn't look like a crackhead and was asking for food rather than money. People were giving him bags of crisps and sandwiches they'd packed for work etc. And there was literally a food delivery going on in the carpark of the migrant hotel. It just seemed dystopian.

It's easy to call people intolerant online but actually seeing this stuff in person is uncomfortable. It's not about disliking anybody for their race (although certain cultural differences are problematic), it's just about realising it's insane to not be able to house our own population yet not effectively manage how many people we take in and house/provide for.

PerkingFaintly · 05/09/2026 22:26

GaIadriel · 05/09/2026 21:22

But why wasn't there a 'rabid cult' in years past? 🤔 It's almost as if there's a pressing societal issue driving this unprecedented support. And let's not pretend that there aren't thousands upon thousands of Reform supporters. Many times the number of the thugs who are always conveniently focused on.

I'm not a fan of Farage but it's clear that a lot of these virtue signalling lefties are totally blinkered. I work in the construction sector with a lot of self employed men that are one workplace injury away from being unable to work and being given a tent and sleeping bag. I'd be terrified if I was in that situation! Thankfully as a woman it's unlikely I'd be left roaming the streets were I ever unable to pay my rent.

I work in the construction sector with a lot of self employed men that are one workplace injury away from being unable to work and being given a tent and sleeping bag.

This is exactly what disability benefits exist for. You know, the ones Reform wants to cut? And housing benefits.

I've had to leave work because of becoming disabled. I was lucky enough to be in employment rather than self-employment so went onto Contributory benefits rather than just means-tested, which has saved me a small degree of degradation in terms of having my bank-accounts combed through. Still have to go through the even more soul-destroying disability assessments though, and the lying assessors and the appeals and reinstatements.

It's deeply shit, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But this is why we have disability benefits.

TemperanceWest · 05/09/2026 22:26

Florenceeiderduck · 05/09/2026 22:15

Good.
And on that note, my On Call shift is finished and I'm going to bed.

On call for what, I wonder?

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:26

GaIadriel · 05/09/2026 22:05

Who deals with housing?

You're not under the impression that there are unlimited funds and unlimited houses are you?

Asylum seekers’ accommodati9n is funded by central government. The majority of the costs come from the overseas budget. It’s not covered by council housing budgets. As to unlimited housing - have you seen how many empty properties there are in the U.K.?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/09/2026 22:20

5128gap · 05/09/2026 22:18

Do you think that means another one's going to take over?🤔

I presume so.

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2026 22:20

5128gap · 05/09/2026 22:18

Do you think that means another one's going to take over?🤔

I think it’s already happened. There was a marked improvement in vocabulary halfway through the thread.

5128gap · 05/09/2026 22:18

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2026 22:16

Poor thing. You must be exhausted.

Do you think that means another one's going to take over?🤔

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/09/2026 22:17

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2026 22:15

I miss the laughter emoticon.

I really miss that too. There have been a few posts on this thread which have definitely warranted it!

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2026 22:16

Florenceeiderduck · 05/09/2026 22:15

Good.
And on that note, my On Call shift is finished and I'm going to bed.

Poor thing. You must be exhausted.

GaIadriel · 05/09/2026 22:16

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2026 22:08

It will not, different budgets, one is funded entirely by central government, the other is funded locally

I let you work out which is which

So when a migrant enters a hotel he can just stay there for the rest of his life?

Florenceeiderduck · 05/09/2026 22:15

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/09/2026 22:14

That's fine. You have been unable to answer many of my questions on this thread. I'm getting used to it.

Good.
And on that note, my On Call shift is finished and I'm going to bed.

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2026 22:15

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/09/2026 22:13

My Reform council seems to positively champion hopelessness. They have made a real effort to get as many hopeless people as possible elected as councillors.

I miss the laughter emoticon.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/09/2026 22:14

Florenceeiderduck · 05/09/2026 22:13

I'm not answering your facetious question.

That's fine. You have been unable to answer many of my questions on this thread. I'm getting used to it.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/09/2026 22:13

BermudaRhombus · 05/09/2026 22:10

Reform Councils tend to need extra funding for reducing “hopelessness”.

My Reform council seems to positively champion hopelessness. They have made a real effort to get as many hopeless people as possible elected as councillors.

Florenceeiderduck · 05/09/2026 22:13

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/09/2026 22:11

Irregular migration is down.

I'm not sure how you know that there are so many asylum seekers wandering around your town. Do you interview everyone to ascertain their immigration status?

I'm not answering your facetious question.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/09/2026 22:11

Florenceeiderduck · 05/09/2026 21:49

And the need is decreasing because the backlog is being cleared.
So how is it that we have so many wandering around my town ?
All they are doing is kicking the can down the road.
And don't forget they are now coming over by lorry as well as boat.

Irregular migration is down.

I'm not sure how you know that there are so many asylum seekers wandering around your town. Do you interview everyone to ascertain their immigration status?

BermudaRhombus · 05/09/2026 22:10

GaIadriel · 05/09/2026 22:02

But tackling immigration will leave the council with more money to address hopelessness. This isn't a complicated thing to comprehend.

Reform Councils tend to need extra funding for reducing “hopelessness”.

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2026 22:08

Thank you for proving my point. We spend £2 billion on housing migrants according to your link. Because we haven’t built nearly enough social housing.

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2026 22:08

GaIadriel · 05/09/2026 22:02

But tackling immigration will leave the council with more money to address hopelessness. This isn't a complicated thing to comprehend.

It will not, different budgets, one is funded entirely by central government, the other is funded locally

I let you work out which is which

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