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AIBU to share this Reform exposé from C4?

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Firetreev · 03/09/2026 21:51

To share this fantastic documentary exposing Reform for the crooks and traitors that they really are. Thank you for sharing @ihateboris

I'd recommend watching it to the end.

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/09/2026 11:19

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:05

What do you mean I won't engage? I don't need to read to answer every single comment quoting and tagging me. I didn't realise there was a need for that or a timescale in which to do it. You believe there's been wrongdoing, I'm happy to wait on conclusive evidence.

What I mean by saying that you won't engage is that you won't engage with the substance of the thread or with the evidence that was presented in the documentary and you won't offer any opinions on what has been exposed. Instead, you will try as hard as you can to derail the discussion by talking about unrelated matters. Like you have done on many previous threads.

You're not actually here to discuss or debate. You're here to derail with your irrelevant whataboutery. The pp is right, we should not respond to the bait, we should just ignore you and focus on the actual subject of the thread.

And on that note, I won't be responding to any more of your posts on this thread, unless you would actually like to volunteer an opinion on the evidence presented in the documentary.

TemperanceWest · 04/09/2026 11:15

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:12

Did I say he was British?

Well what are the parallels then? Lord Alli made perfectly legal donations to the Labour party/Starmer. All were declared on time.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 04/09/2026 11:15

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:11

Why are you using strange spelling? I don't care whether he's British or not.

Very strange, because if you don't care where donations come from, you trying to use Alli was what...pointing out parties have legitimate donors apart from Reform, who seem to have millions flooding in from overseas?

How cultured.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:12

TemperanceWest · 04/09/2026 11:09

Lord Alli is British. No overseas bribes involved.

Again DARVO.

Did I say he was British?

Gall10 · 04/09/2026 11:12

ThatLemonBear · 03/09/2026 22:07

Reform are terrible but sadly I think their “supporters” won’t care because “foreigners”. 🤦‍♀️

I doubt very much that your typical deform voter will be watching a channel 4 documentary…too busy at a balloon release for dead criminals or waving flags outside asylum seeker accommodation.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/09/2026 11:12

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:10

I'm a Tory and most certainly not "embarrassed" by my views and general stance on MN.

Yes, I have seen you say that you're a Tory before. But one that takes a curious interest in Farage and leaps to defend him and his grubby little party at every available opportunity.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:11

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 04/09/2026 11:10

Oh you mean that British guy?
Not quite Putin or Trump sending millions, is it?
"Make Britain Forrin Again" doesn't have the same ring to it.

Why are you using strange spelling? I don't care whether he's British or not.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/09/2026 11:10

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Erm, there is no law? I don't think I suggested that it was illegal not to engage?

And no, MNHQ clearly takes no action on the lack of engagement at all, hence the pp continuing to post irrelevant whataboutery on multiple threads.

I do think it's a bit pathetic to try to distract attention from the subject of the thread because you're incapable of actually engaging in the discussion constructively. And I'm entitled to that opinion.

You're equally entitled to the opinion that I'm pathetic or silly or whatever, though you haven't actually articulated any reason for this. In any case, I won't be losing any sleep over it.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:10

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/09/2026 10:50

It must be very convenient for Reform supporters to be able to dismiss the mounting evidence against the party as biased and politically motivated.

I actually find myself feeling quite sorry for you. You've tied your colours to the Reform mast and now you find the the ship is sinking, rapidly. You don't want to admit that you made a poor judgment so you're just trying to pretend that it isn't happening. Nothing to see here.

If you have watched the documentary, then you are effectively gaslighting yourself. If you haven't watched it, then you're just putting your fingers in front of your eyes and choosing not to look.

It will all unravel eventually.

I'm a Tory and most certainly not "embarrassed" by my views and general stance on MN.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 04/09/2026 11:10

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:06

Lord Alli says hello.

Oh you mean that British guy?
Not quite Putin or Trump sending millions, is it?
"Make Britain Forrin Again" doesn't have the same ring to it.

Firetreev · 04/09/2026 11:09

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Sorry, but joining in with a conversation to add nothing of value on either side of the debate is simply trolling. It's not done in good faith. I'm happy to argue with people who are prepared to present arguments to defend their position, but if you're not prepared to actually defend your side and only wish to get into what about arguments, you are wasting people's time. Of course you and any other posters have the right to join in but it is pathetic. Imagine if someone did similar in real life. You'd think they were a sad sack and tell them to fuck off eventually.

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TemperanceWest · 04/09/2026 11:09

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:06

Lord Alli says hello.

Lord Alli is British. No overseas bribes involved.

Again DARVO.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:06

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 04/09/2026 11:03

They wanted "sovrintee" didn't they? Bribes from overseas paying their politicians is a funny way of keeping us "British"!

Lord Alli says hello.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:05

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/09/2026 10:58

I know you're right - she won't engage.

It's pathetic, really.

What do you mean I won't engage? I don't need to read to answer every single comment quoting and tagging me. I didn't realise there was a need for that or a timescale in which to do it. You believe there's been wrongdoing, I'm happy to wait on conclusive evidence.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 04/09/2026 11:03

ThatLemonBear · 03/09/2026 22:07

Reform are terrible but sadly I think their “supporters” won’t care because “foreigners”. 🤦‍♀️

They wanted "sovrintee" didn't they? Bribes from overseas paying their politicians is a funny way of keeping us "British"!

TemperanceWest · 04/09/2026 11:02

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 10:34

A great sting and brilliant journalism - by left wing activists 😆 🤣

Vaz was brought down by a left wing sting. You seemed quite happy with that.

Florenceeiderduck · 04/09/2026 11:02

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LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 11:01

Florenceeiderduck · 04/09/2026 10:45

We don't know if anything illegal has occurred yet.
Let's see what the investigation says.....

Exactly. Like intelligent people do.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/09/2026 10:58

Firetreev · 04/09/2026 10:56

There is no point in engaging with this poster. I keep making the mistake of doing so - he/she, or perhaps even it, never ever actually engages with the topic at hand. It's always whataboutery, with no defence provided. They don't debate in good faith. They have nothing of value to say what so ever, it's actually quite embarrassing.

Obviously, I don't mean you @MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack i mean the poster you were replying to!

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I know you're right - she won't engage.

It's pathetic, really.

Florenceeiderduck · 04/09/2026 10:58

Firetreev · 04/09/2026 10:56

There is no point in engaging with this poster. I keep making the mistake of doing so - he/she, or perhaps even it, never ever actually engages with the topic at hand. It's always whataboutery, with no defence provided. They don't debate in good faith. They have nothing of value to say what so ever, it's actually quite embarrassing.

Obviously, I don't mean you @MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack i mean the poster you were replying to!

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So stop engaging then. Simple.

Firetreev · 04/09/2026 10:56

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/09/2026 10:54

The thing is, Farage and his cronies wouldn't have got "stung" by "left wing activists" or anyone else if they had stayed within the boundaries of the law.

It wouldn't make a very good documentary if people were covertly filmed declining illegal donations and insisting that they must stick to the rules.

There is no point in engaging with this poster. I keep making the mistake of doing so - he/she, or perhaps even it, never ever actually engages with the topic at hand. It's always whataboutery, with no defence provided. They don't debate in good faith. They have nothing of value to say what so ever, it's actually quite embarrassing.

Obviously, I don't mean you @MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack i mean the poster you were replying to!

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/09/2026 10:54

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 10:34

A great sting and brilliant journalism - by left wing activists 😆 🤣

The thing is, Farage and his cronies wouldn't have got "stung" by "left wing activists" or anyone else if they had stayed within the boundaries of the law.

It wouldn't make a very good documentary if people were covertly filmed declining illegal donations and insisting that they must stick to the rules.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 04/09/2026 10:50

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 10:15

When evidence is presented, that's unbiased and not led by political motivation, I will make my mind up. An investigation has started so forgive me if I don't favourably join in on the witch hunt .

It must be very convenient for Reform supporters to be able to dismiss the mounting evidence against the party as biased and politically motivated.

I actually find myself feeling quite sorry for you. You've tied your colours to the Reform mast and now you find the the ship is sinking, rapidly. You don't want to admit that you made a poor judgment so you're just trying to pretend that it isn't happening. Nothing to see here.

If you have watched the documentary, then you are effectively gaslighting yourself. If you haven't watched it, then you're just putting your fingers in front of your eyes and choosing not to look.

It will all unravel eventually.

Limeandfigs · 04/09/2026 10:49

Florenceeiderduck · 04/09/2026 10:45

We don't know if anything illegal has occurred yet.
Let's see what the investigation says.....

You are right in that no-one has been convicted of anything.

Senior sides admitting on camera that they have broken the law multiple times in the past with overseas donors however is fairly clear, I would say.

BIossomtoes · 04/09/2026 10:49

LuckyHazelFox · 04/09/2026 10:24

Youre very keen on pressing this point. You believe everything left wing political activists bring you, I will proceed with caution.

Watch the C4 programme. The evidence is literally in front of you.

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