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ds has refused his first 2 days of year 7

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dinosaursroars · 03/09/2026 11:37

my ds was due to start year 7 yesterday, he’s got asd but no ehcp which i was already concerned about

i don’t drive so he was going to to with his older brother (y10) on the bus but he wasn’t starting until today so I tried to take him yesterday but was also with my baby in the pushchair and my 5yo.

he got ready and everything but when we were walking to the bus stop he kept saying he didn’t want to go and was getting upset and tried to run in the road and it just wasnt safe as it was just me and also trying to keep an eye on my younger children so i gave in and we went home which probbaly wasnt great

Today I had to do the school run for my 5yo so couldn’t take him in and he was going to go with his brother as planned but he just wouldn’t get dressed he kept saying things like he wanted his old school and he didnt want to start a new school etc so again i gave in as he was going to make my other children late

have phones the school and the head of year 7 is supposed to call me today but hasn’t yet

I just feel like a failure already i was already worried about him going to school and how he’d cope but not actually getting him there i didnt think this would be the issue

OP posts:
MorrisseysMisery · 03/09/2026 14:29

Balloonhearts · 03/09/2026 11:51

Year 7? Seriously? He's what 10/11? He doesn't get a say in whether he goes to school. He does as he's damn well told, even if I had to drag him there by the bloody ear.

Discipline him. Running in the road wouldn't have occurred to me as my mum would have walloped my arse in front of all my new schoolmate for pulling that sort of shit.

Finally, some sense. I have a 16 year old with Aspergers and I have trained/corrected him (appropriately) over the years to not act like he rules this home and tells ME how it is!
The child here definitely requires sanctioning for running into the road. The consequences of that could be deadly.
I have witnessed a similar aged child hit by a car and it will haunt me forever.
Excellent post from yourself

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 03/09/2026 14:26

Balloonhearts · 03/09/2026 11:51

Year 7? Seriously? He's what 10/11? He doesn't get a say in whether he goes to school. He does as he's damn well told, even if I had to drag him there by the bloody ear.

Discipline him. Running in the road wouldn't have occurred to me as my mum would have walloped my arse in front of all my new schoolmate for pulling that sort of shit.

You don't have a clue.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 03/09/2026 14:25

Bumcake · 03/09/2026 12:51

Sounds like you have too many children to manage. Where is their father?

Well she has the kids now what do you want her to do about it?

draineddaughter · 03/09/2026 14:24

Balloonhearts · 03/09/2026 11:51

Year 7? Seriously? He's what 10/11? He doesn't get a say in whether he goes to school. He does as he's damn well told, even if I had to drag him there by the bloody ear.

Discipline him. Running in the road wouldn't have occurred to me as my mum would have walloped my arse in front of all my new schoolmate for pulling that sort of shit.

You are so ignorant.

Needmorelego · 03/09/2026 14:23

@roaringdragon I am always getting the C and H round the wrong way with EHCP - and my daughter actually has one 😂

WhyIsThereGlitterEverywhere · 03/09/2026 14:22

There is some seriously bad/misinformed advice on this thread. OP it sounds like he needs more support (as you probably already know!), is the SENCO involved, did they do any extra transition support? Sometimes it’s helpful for children to have some time in the building to see the classrooms, meeting teachers etc before the rest of the children arrive.

Is he known to CAMHS? You need support from the school and professionals and if you aren’t getting it keep pushing for it. If his current school isn’t helpful are there any other schools that are more nurturing or supportive even if they aren’t your closest school?

Look up information and support for EBSA, as this is what this is.

DaisyDooley · 03/09/2026 14:21

Epoisses · 03/09/2026 12:51

Had you gone on the bus with him in the holidays to do the journey?

You need to get the younger children looked after while you concentrate on this child that needs a parent,
You can’t expect his sibling to give him the support he needs.
Where is the father/s of the little ones? Get him to help out for a few days and prioritise this child or you will end up with a school refuser and another child on the scrap heap.
And l mean this in nicest way -stop having children. You only have so much to go round and autistic children need so so much support. I couldn’t even work while DD was at senior school because of the sheer amount of time and energy it took getting her there and trying to get her to stay there. Endless emails &meetings…..but I did it and she came out with all her GCSEs. But that was only though sheer hard work on my part. .
Youare spreading yourself too thin -please don’t offload your 11 yr old boy on his older sibling who has neither the ability, maturity or interest in supporting him. It’s not fair on either of them and they will both suffer.

If you want to get him into school tomorrow -which I would advise as missing three days is a lot at the beginning of a new year -then he needs you 1:1 to be there with him. Can you make an appt withthe SENCO for end of school today to come up with a plan with him? Take him with you? Try and get the SENCO on side - and don’t rely on an EHCP. The application will take at least a year and councils simply haven’t got the funds for them so likely would have togotoappeal.
I know I sound tough - but by god you have tobe. Either that or home educate him .

roaringdragon · 03/09/2026 14:21

OonaStubbs · 03/09/2026 14:16

How are they going to cope with work where there are no "ECHPs" and they are expected to get on with the job they are being paid to do?

Work is a very different environment to being at school.

Some are self employed where they have far, far more control.

Many receive support that enables them to develop strategies to cope and regulate themselves.

Some receive reasonable adjustments at work.

Some receive support via Access to Work.

BTW, it is EHCPs. If you are going to post nonsense at least use the right terms.

ncGW · 03/09/2026 14:20

I'm autistic and so are my DCs. School was very hard for all of us until we were... about 20 I'd say.

But refusing only makes it worse. Taking him late is a good option. The longer you wait, the worse it will get - singled out with pupils and teachers on arrival, starting to believe he can avoid it.

Make an appointment with the head of year, SN coord or some key person to discuss introduction into the year, and talk (all three of you) about what needs to go into place that he feels he can.

Help you DS open up about his reasons (bullying? Distance? Change? Specific teachers, subjects? Something he finds at home that won't be there, or in his old school but won't be there?) so that you know what do to about him. Sometimes all it takes is knowing his favourite biscuits is in the lunchbox, or cutting a scratchy uniform label.

As an autistic son and parent I know that it's both despairing and wonderful. All the best to you.

Needmorelego · 03/09/2026 14:19

OonaStubbs · 03/09/2026 14:16

How are they going to cope with work where there are no "ECHPs" and they are expected to get on with the job they are being paid to do?

Work places are often much much better at helping their staff members when they have a disability.
Not always but usually considerably better than schools do.
Also adults generally choose the working environment they work in.

Burred · 03/09/2026 14:18

OonaStubbs · 03/09/2026 14:16

How are they going to cope with work where there are no "ECHPs" and they are expected to get on with the job they are being paid to do?

Ah. The inverted commas probably tell us a little more about your POV than anything else you've said.

FusionChefGeoff · 03/09/2026 14:18

Is it a school bus or public service? If public you can practice the route with him just to get him more comfortable with that. You had all summer to do that and get him used to going on buses on his own but you are where you are so you can do this at the weekend at least.

And you need to keep shouting for an EHCP don’t let the system (its shit) beat you - you have to fight harder.

Definitely keep trying to get him there - don’t give up. late is better than not at all.

Merrybandofpirates · 03/09/2026 14:17

OonaStubbs · 03/09/2026 14:09

It is no wonder we have so many NEETs. People are living in dream world if they think a boy who persistently refuses to attend school is going to walk into "a job of their choosing" which is far easier than school. It's far more likely that they will be unable to cope with work any better than they do school and end up unemployable and on benefits.

Statistically, he is already far more likely the leave school with few qualifications, and never achieve more than minimum wage jobs. Single parent family, multiple siblings, low income household. Statistically, he won’t do as well at school as most others. Which is exactly why he really needs to be in school where the support can target him, so his mum needs to make an effort here and get him in. Even if he spends the day doing revision work in the SEN room. He needs to be in school to have any chance to get out of the lifestyle he is being raised in.

I’m a single parent, and I’m aware of the challenges and the reality of that. My oldest is autistic. So I’ve worked my arse off to make sure my kids won’t be disadvantaged - and they’re both top set in all their subjects, win awards every year, play instruments in a band which won the Scottish youth championship, committed to a sport etc. It doesn’t just happen, it takes work and it takes a lot more work as a single parent. This kid doesn’t seem to have that support behind him. He needs to be in school.

OonaStubbs · 03/09/2026 14:16

How are they going to cope with work where there are no "ECHPs" and they are expected to get on with the job they are being paid to do?

Needmorelego · 03/09/2026 14:14

@OonaStubbs we probably have so many NEETS because the education system has failed them.
The OP said an echp should have been done years ago.
But it wasn't.
This poor child was let down by the education system before he had even finished primary.

roaringdragon · 03/09/2026 14:13

OonaStubbs · 03/09/2026 14:09

It is no wonder we have so many NEETs. People are living in dream world if they think a boy who persistently refuses to attend school is going to walk into "a job of their choosing" which is far easier than school. It's far more likely that they will be unable to cope with work any better than they do school and end up unemployable and on benefits.

Not managing secondary MS doesn’t automatically mean they won’t go on to manage adult life and work. Some do. Some go on to university and work. Obviously some won’t, but it isn’t a blanket given that they won’t. SEN isn’t about not wanting to do things or just a matter of “persevering and growing stronger and more mature”. If that is what you think, you have very little understanding of SEN.

OonaStubbs · 03/09/2026 14:09

It is no wonder we have so many NEETs. People are living in dream world if they think a boy who persistently refuses to attend school is going to walk into "a job of their choosing" which is far easier than school. It's far more likely that they will be unable to cope with work any better than they do school and end up unemployable and on benefits.

ClairDeLaLune · 03/09/2026 14:05

Balloonhearts · 03/09/2026 11:51

Year 7? Seriously? He's what 10/11? He doesn't get a say in whether he goes to school. He does as he's damn well told, even if I had to drag him there by the bloody ear.

Discipline him. Running in the road wouldn't have occurred to me as my mum would have walloped my arse in front of all my new schoolmate for pulling that sort of shit.

I really hope you don’t have children.

SilenceInside · 03/09/2026 14:01

@MrsJeanLuc My DS has autism. I am thrilled that your DC with ADHD has a fully functional independent adult life. I am desperately concerned and worried daily that my DS with autism won't, and I do everything in my power to work towards increasing the chances of that. Of course having autism means he has more challenges and needs more help to face them. That's what (nearly) everyone here is emphasising, so it's odd that you think I don't know that. What I was questioning was the point and the helpfulness of a post like @OonaStubbs made which implies that there are no issues that a little perseverance and maturity won't solve. Which is clearly bollocks.

TeddieBears · 03/09/2026 13:57

OonaStubbs · 03/09/2026 13:40

If he can't cope with school, how is he going to cope with work, and adult life in general? Part of growing up is having to do things you find difficult or don't want to do, persevering and growing stronger and more mature as a result.

Can't stand this argument.

My child is autistic and managing primary OK so far, although he has some struggles. I am very worried about secondary school in a couple of years.
I completely disagree that forcing a child to go into an environment that causes anxiety day after day for years will help 'strengthen' them. My fear is that it could do the opposite and break my child.
I have hope that an adult workplace of his choosing will be much easier for him than secondary school but he has to get through secondary school first.

SilenceInside · 03/09/2026 13:57

@SeenYourArse what on earth are you on about? This is nothing to do with parenting styles or non-competitive events. This is about a child with autism who hasn't been supported properly by the primary or secondary school, with a parent who has clearly got a lot on her plate with the three other children and (apparently) no support from a partner or the children's father.

The OP made the right decision in the moment for the sake of safety. Now she is asking for support on what to do next to get him into school. All very sensible.

ToffeePennie · 03/09/2026 13:56

ASD makes transitions so difficult. Call the school, speak to the SENDCO and see if he can be put on the SEND register. Ask if there’s any way he can do shorter days for (eg) half a term, maybe just going in the afternoons or the mornings to build his confidence. Or maybe he can have a designated safe space or a safe person/friend/teacher he can speak to at any time he feels anxious or nervous. Also try to give him a “routine” as much as you can; we tell our year8 ASD son, who’s taking him and who’s collecting every day for a week, put his clothes out the night before, pack his school bag etc. just try to get him “balanced” before school. My son has an EHCP, but before that was on the SEND register and could use the soft start club and the sensory rooms to regulate before going into his lessons. That might help?

MrsJeanLuc · 03/09/2026 13:54

SilenceInside · 03/09/2026 13:42

This may be a shock to you @OonaStubbs but a lot of adults with ASD struggle with daily adult life and find it harder than those without autism to get work and stay in work.

It might be a shock to you to learn that people DO understand that.

My (now adult) DC has ADHD. It's hard for her, but she manages to hold down a job and rent her own home. Yes she struggles, yes it exhausts her, but the point is she is able to live a fully functional independent life.

That's what @OonaStubbs is suggesting @dinosaursroars should want for her son. Yes having autism means that he has more challenges to face and needs more help to face them.

SeenYourArse · 03/09/2026 13:52

Gentle parenting and everyone wins culture has now got us to the point where a child saying I don’t want to go to school mean mum just gives up and goes home again twice in a row and then asks what to do! Seriously worrying times fro a parenting perspective, it’s not always ASD sometimes it’s just worry about the unknown and you need to give him the strength and perspective that it’s normal to worry and part of life and you dont just back down and go home at the first wobble.

FreudvsJung · 03/09/2026 13:49

I worked with students who found it hard to transition to secondary school (doesn’t necessarily have to be a special educational need reason). Are you able to take the little one in first and then your son to school? I would do this for a week and then eventually just walk him near by. The thing with anxiety and avoidance is that the more you don’t do it, the more big the anxiety becomes. It might be helpful for a member of the pastoral team to meet him at the gate too.