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AIBU to think we don’t want driverless taxis?

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Burnedbyquestions · 03/09/2026 07:41

Driverless Ubers now bookable in London - as a pedestrian I would not feel safer knowing cars are driverless and as a taxi passenger I want to support humans to have a livelihood, not increase numbers on benefits and give Uber more profits. Surely most people agree? Appreciate taxi drivers need tighter controls after all the sex attack and intimidation problems but I don’t think driverless anything is the solution.
If taxis were that cheap what would happen to buses/trains? The roads would be clogged up with individual passengers in cars instead - I can’t see the point of them.

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user1492538376 · 04/09/2026 15:45

Netcurtainnelly · 04/09/2026 15:36

Our recent taxi conversation was interesting and pleasant and the car clean and comfortable.
I'm sure if you didn't want to talk though and just sit back and relax and listen to music that would be fine though. Just tell them.

Good for you! No I dont think I will just tell them they and the car stinks. That wouldnt go down well and would be rude.

SerendipityJane · 04/09/2026 15:47

Netcurtainnelly · 04/09/2026 15:37

I'm the future there will be air taxis I'm sure.
Cars won't just drive on the road . Maybe a long time off. I can see it coming though using air space .

You can already buy a human carrying drone from TEMU

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JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 04/09/2026 15:48

I can’t wait until my own car has a driverless option! I could drive to the pub and get driven home.

SerendipityJane · 04/09/2026 15:53

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 04/09/2026 15:48

I can’t wait until my own car has a driverless option! I could drive to the pub and get driven home.

Why does it have to be "your" car ?

Kajjsa · 04/09/2026 15:59

I would not put my foot in one. There are lots of examples of some electric cars (look up Volvo) having a life of their own. I also resent how these things take people’s livelihoods. Who is going to need to get into an uber or be able to afford it if none of us have jobs?!

DoubleShotEspresso · 04/09/2026 16:07

Netcurtainnelly · 04/09/2026 13:40

Could happen with a driver. Taxis can crash. It won't be allowed in the road until it's safe anyway

There have already been pilot drive schemes where these vehicles have been proven to be anything but safe.

FourSevenFive · 04/09/2026 16:32

Burnedbyquestions · 04/09/2026 13:26

So we have lots of preferences here for robot drivers vs dodgy men drivers - with dodgy men as dangerous drivers or sex attackers putting people off getting taxis.
What if there were female only taxis, driven by females and with female/children only passengers? Safer calmer better experience and saving jobs for humans?
Comments like it’s “adapt to technology or die” are exactly what I mean - we shouldn’t be putting masses of people in that position where they cannot adapt to technology so what they’re just expected to die? How exactly does a taxi driver adapt to a world of driverless taxis? They won’t die, they’ll become unemployed, drain the state of benefits and our taxi fares will line Uber pockets with insufficient tax reducing the public purse to pay for those benefits. It’s lose lose.
if the issue is bad men driving then we need an alternative of highly secure driving - black cabs need to promote their safety measures, combat false assumptions about price etc.
Driverless cars are not widely tested in real life busy narrow streets with people popping out all over the place - good human drivers can anticipate what’s going to happen and slow down in advance - we need to promote good drivers not eliminate them altogether.
And other than safety what’s the point if they’re no cheaper?
if they are cheaper then what will happen to the roads if they get clogged up with taxis? If they limit the number of cars on the roads in city centres like London then the cost will go up again rendering them pointless again.
The main benefits are for Uber, whose own shoddy driver management practices have created the perfect market conditions for their replacement - I have no confidence that they will prioritise passenger safety over profits.
Bill Gates has recently written about AI limits re human jobs, interaction etc - this seems to cover exactly those issues.
I vote for better human drivers with better safety measures. Why isn’t there a single national app for local cab drivers that offers the ease of payment and tracking that Uber has? that plus stronger safety measures and the option to request a female driver would be my preference.

The dodgy men drivers are the reason human-driven taxi is relativelly affordable. If you replace then with a better cohort (currently holding other jobs), price will have to get up. And those men will lose their jobs anyway.

Driver-less taxis are being tested in bussy streets now - and the technology is improving, if it isn't safer than average human driver today , it will be in months/year time.

I like the idea the cars which spend the most time on the streets would actually follow the rules, let pedestrians on zebra crossing cross and so on. And, I love the idea that this can reduce the individual car ownership, at least in the cities.

I understand the loss of jobs is worrying. It is therefore a bit funny that you suggest current drivers losing their jobs and being replaced with other, supposedly currently employed, humans.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 04/09/2026 16:37

Burnedbyquestions · 04/09/2026 13:26

So we have lots of preferences here for robot drivers vs dodgy men drivers - with dodgy men as dangerous drivers or sex attackers putting people off getting taxis.
What if there were female only taxis, driven by females and with female/children only passengers? Safer calmer better experience and saving jobs for humans?
Comments like it’s “adapt to technology or die” are exactly what I mean - we shouldn’t be putting masses of people in that position where they cannot adapt to technology so what they’re just expected to die? How exactly does a taxi driver adapt to a world of driverless taxis? They won’t die, they’ll become unemployed, drain the state of benefits and our taxi fares will line Uber pockets with insufficient tax reducing the public purse to pay for those benefits. It’s lose lose.
if the issue is bad men driving then we need an alternative of highly secure driving - black cabs need to promote their safety measures, combat false assumptions about price etc.
Driverless cars are not widely tested in real life busy narrow streets with people popping out all over the place - good human drivers can anticipate what’s going to happen and slow down in advance - we need to promote good drivers not eliminate them altogether.
And other than safety what’s the point if they’re no cheaper?
if they are cheaper then what will happen to the roads if they get clogged up with taxis? If they limit the number of cars on the roads in city centres like London then the cost will go up again rendering them pointless again.
The main benefits are for Uber, whose own shoddy driver management practices have created the perfect market conditions for their replacement - I have no confidence that they will prioritise passenger safety over profits.
Bill Gates has recently written about AI limits re human jobs, interaction etc - this seems to cover exactly those issues.
I vote for better human drivers with better safety measures. Why isn’t there a single national app for local cab drivers that offers the ease of payment and tracking that Uber has? that plus stronger safety measures and the option to request a female driver would be my preference.

The black cab drivers I’ve known hardly declare any earnings either, except when they’ve wanted a mortgage etc. Regardless, progress shouldn’t stop for a few cab drivers. It didn’t stop for the miners, it’s not stopping for anyone employed in North Sea oil. Anyone young training to be a black cab driver in the last 10 years has known exactly what they were up against. The oldest ones will be able to work out their days - it’s not going to be an overnight thing. And there will probably always been some appetite for them as PP says.

Gdff · 04/09/2026 16:49

SerendipityJane · 04/09/2026 16:44

People get killed on the roads every day in the UK. Yet still we allow people to drive.

Exactly

grumpygrape · 04/09/2026 17:16

Flamingojune · 04/09/2026 14:13

Im sure there will always be choice

I wish I had your faith. Only a choice of two taxi options now here and at what cost in the future ?

Kajjsa · 04/09/2026 17:21

I am just waiting for this tech bro bubble to burst.

SerendipityJane · 04/09/2026 17:24

Kajjsa · 04/09/2026 17:21

I am just waiting for this tech bro bubble to burst.

I imagine scribes were saying the same as the printing press rolled in.

Or sailmakers as ships turned to steam.

Or blacksmiths as cars drove by not needing shoeing. (Although a few cannier ones decided to become motor car repairers ....)

Kajjsa · 04/09/2026 17:29

SerendipityJane · 04/09/2026 17:24

I imagine scribes were saying the same as the printing press rolled in.

Or sailmakers as ships turned to steam.

Or blacksmiths as cars drove by not needing shoeing. (Although a few cannier ones decided to become motor car repairers ....)

I don’t buy that argument. It’s getting a bit old.

DrNeededInInflatorRoom · 04/09/2026 17:29

I have a recurring dream/nightmare every now and then where I’m sat in a moving car and suddenly realise there’s no driver and it’s one of those frustrating dreams where I’m trying to get into the drivers seat but various obstacles keep stopping me. The idea of driverless cars has always freaked me out so no thanks.

If others want to use them fair enough but I’m sure there will always be at least some demand for taxis with a driver.

Kajjsa · 04/09/2026 17:32

I am not keen walking around town with driverless vehicles around either.

Acommonreader · 04/09/2026 17:42

My dad is in his 70s and really hopes driverless cars will be available to buy soon. I expect they will be pricey but older people become very isolated when they can’t drive anymore. He’s keen to be able to still get around!

Bringemout · 04/09/2026 17:42

I’m all for it, had some uncomfortable experiences with taxi drivers as a young woman.

Palavermalarkey · 04/09/2026 17:43

@Greyover @helpfulperson Road accidents have been going down, even when traffic peaked in the 90s. Safety glass, seatbelts, Euro regulations, improved car design, speed limits & bumps. The roads are safer now than they've ever been.

AIBU to think we don’t want driverless taxis?
OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 04/09/2026 17:44

Kajjsa · 04/09/2026 17:21

I am just waiting for this tech bro bubble to burst.

You can’t be serious

Troublein · 04/09/2026 17:50

I might use Uber if it was guaranteed to be a driverless car.

They have too many dodgy drivers who couldn't get from one end of a street to the other without using a Sat Nav.

SerendipityJane · 04/09/2026 17:54

Palavermalarkey · 04/09/2026 17:43

@Greyover @helpfulperson Road accidents have been going down, even when traffic peaked in the 90s. Safety glass, seatbelts, Euro regulations, improved car design, speed limits & bumps. The roads are safer now than they've ever been.

One interpretation of that data could be that we are comfortable with that number of fatalities.

I wonder (again) what people might think if autonomous cars could get that figure down by 50% ? Or more ? Would grieving relatives be happy that their dearest died just so a few people were happier driverless cars weren't around ?

Kajjsa · 04/09/2026 17:58

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 04/09/2026 17:44

You can’t be serious

Deadly serious

RancidRuby · 04/09/2026 17:58

We were in LA over the summer holidays and used them a lot. They felt very safe and we didn’t have a single issue, if anything it felt like they were being very cautious. The London ones will get better over time. They were generally slightly cheaper than a driven uber and you also didn’t have to factor in a tip on top of the fare price. They don’t go on the highways so sometimes a journey may take longer, we used a normal driven Uber for the one longer journey we had and interestingly when we chatted to our driver about them he was all for them. He said he’ll just eventually buy multiple driverless cars and then send them out on the road to do the work for him.