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AIBU to be so sick of tradespeople/ cleaners asking for cash in hand?

539 replies

Endlesspasswords · 03/09/2026 06:21

So my cleaner charges £21/hour cash, but just said she wants more if I pay by bank transfer, because bank transfer means she can’t dodge declaring it. As if paying by transfer (i.e. traceably) is some kind of favour/ privilege I should pay extra for.

Same with some work I got a quote for- it’s the attitude that if I don’t want to pay in cash, I’m the one ‘hurting’ their bank balance or being awkward.

I’m freelance B2B myself. No sick pay, no employer pension contributions, no paid holiday, I know exactly what it’s like to carry your own tax and NI. But I still pay tax on every invoice, because that’s the deal.

I’m so sick with the fact that self-employed people in one sector get to treat tax as optional while others pay for their healthcare, schools etc.

and yes, I’m getting a new cleaner.

OP posts:
BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:42

FirmSnake · 03/09/2026 14:39

If we all paid enough tax, there'd be more budget to do things properly!
You can want a cash economy all you like, but a cash economy cant support half of what we all expect from government these days.

You’re either very young or very naive if you think that more money to government equals better and more services. It’s just pissed away in the giant inefficient morass of bureaucracy. We’ve tried the “more funding” before and all that happens is that certain people get very rich.

Badbadbunny · 03/09/2026 14:40

Palomiino · 03/09/2026 14:34

Travel time? Who else gets paid whilst they’re driving to work??

Most employees only commute once each way. A self employed cleaner will be doing multiple journeys between clients. If an employee has a job requiring lots of travel between clients/customers, they'll almost certainly be paid for the travel time and probably also travel costs.

FirmSnake · 03/09/2026 14:39

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:20

The government cannot manage the stuff it’s already trying to run. Utterly batshit that people want more government interference 😆.

If we all paid enough tax, there'd be more budget to do things properly!
You can want a cash economy all you like, but a cash economy cant support half of what we all expect from government these days.

Palomiino · 03/09/2026 14:38

Friendlygingercat · 03/09/2026 12:12

what do these anti-tax people think the money for public services come from? NHS, education, social care etc - are they just so selfish that they're happy for the rest of us to pay for all that while they count their piles of money?

Yes its very selfish for people like me who are child free to be paying for your subs and handouts and facilities for your kids - facilities which we do not want and cannot use. 22% of my council tax goes on children's services and I begrudge every penny of it.

That’s ridiculously narrow minded. If people stop having children then you’ll have nobody to do anything for you when you get old.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:35

Bolon · 03/09/2026 14:22

This doesn’t appeal to you? A scheme to make sure it’s not just you but the government too arguing with a cowboy builder when he runs off with your money? I find that odd.

No. The government already has too much on its plate and cannot administer the basics in an efficient and cost effective way. Any new scheme like this will be a mess and end up costing everyone money.

Palomiino · 03/09/2026 14:34

Loveofeclairs · 03/09/2026 13:15

£21 per hour is about £40k per year. Even considering travel time and expenses, she’ll be way above £22k on full time hours.

Travel time? Who else gets paid whilst they’re driving to work??

Littlemisscapable · 03/09/2026 14:23

Totally agree..there is a whole sub culture of people who earn cash and then want services in cash. So many Chinese restaurants near us are all cash. Its soo dodgy and brazen. Years ago it was a real hush hush thing now so many are so open about it. Drives me mad.

Bolon · 03/09/2026 14:22

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:20

The government cannot manage the stuff it’s already trying to run. Utterly batshit that people want more government interference 😆.

This doesn’t appeal to you? A scheme to make sure it’s not just you but the government too arguing with a cowboy builder when he runs off with your money? I find that odd.

bruffin · 03/09/2026 14:22

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:17

Banks are only safe thanks to the government guarantee which was tested to its absolute limits in ‘08 when multiple banks failed. A cursory review of history should be sufficient to show that banks aren’t completely safe. But my concern is more about periodic disruption to financial tech and payment systems (which is not unusual), plus all the other issues I highlighted.

also @Bolon
Cash is hardly safe. I have a friend who was burgled and all the cash (and there was a lot of it) was stolen. Suspect it wasnt covered under insurance either as insurance companies usually set strict rules on how much is on premises

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:20

Bolon · 03/09/2026 14:17

I think the government ideas to tackle cowboy builders look promising here. You can use a government registered builder and the government will handle any complaints and overseas payment for you if things go wrong.

The customer gets a robust complaints process and knows the builder isn’t running off with their cash.

The builder gets a stamp of respectability.

The government gets tax.

The government cannot manage the stuff it’s already trying to run. Utterly batshit that people want more government interference 😆.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:17

Bolon · 03/09/2026 14:03

You think banks aren’t safe?

Banks are only safe thanks to the government guarantee which was tested to its absolute limits in ‘08 when multiple banks failed. A cursory review of history should be sufficient to show that banks aren’t completely safe. But my concern is more about periodic disruption to financial tech and payment systems (which is not unusual), plus all the other issues I highlighted.

Bolon · 03/09/2026 14:17

I think the government ideas to tackle cowboy builders look promising here. You can use a government registered builder and the government will handle any complaints and overseas payment for you if things go wrong.

The customer gets a robust complaints process and knows the builder isn’t running off with their cash.

The builder gets a stamp of respectability.

The government gets tax.

TonyChestnut · 03/09/2026 14:05

It's rather a stretch to think that minimising cash in hand work would lead to a society without cash.
My observations of people who insist on being paid in cash is that it rarely for legitimate reasons (like avoiding bank fees) and mostly in order to evade paying tax - which of course pays for public services used by all - and/or so they might continue to receive earnings-related benefits, or avoid meeting their paternal responsibilities.
Personally, I would be more than happy to make it illegal to pay cash for goods or services beyond a de-minimus amount and illegal to receive cash for the same. There are many tech options available to make this practicable for 99% of the population.

Bolon · 03/09/2026 14:03

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:02

with respect, you have a very privileged viewpoint. It’s great that your parents can manage, but many can’t. Nothing in my post was related in any way to conspiracy theories.

You think banks aren’t safe?

FirmSnake · 03/09/2026 14:03

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 12:33

Would you really report a low paid female cleaner on about £22k a year?

Why not? Other low paid women are paying taxes to subsidising that cleaner. Do you think that is fair?

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:02

Bolon · 03/09/2026 13:58

None of the above ‘reasons’ are valid though. Those reasons are just a mixture of ludditism and conspiracy theory madness. Are you saying none of these can be overcome? My parents are in their 80s and both taught computing. They know most about computers than I do. It’s really patronising to say old people don’t understand tech or aren’t capable of learning something new if they have to.

with respect, you have a very privileged viewpoint. It’s great that your parents can manage, but many can’t. Nothing in my post was related in any way to conspiracy theories.

Bolon · 03/09/2026 13:58

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 13:48

Do you really want to live in a society without cash? What becomes of the millions of people who do not have (and cannot open) bank accounts? Or those who do, but are debanked (not as rare as you’d think). How would the homeless manage? What about those who cannot afford smart phones or internet access, or the elderly who cannot work the tech. Do you want a society where you are forced to entrust all of your money to third parties (are banks always safe? - imagine not having a bit of cash for emergencies). What if you were in a financially controlling relationship and cash was the only way to protect your money? What happens when the banking tech goes down - it happens and people don’t fully realise how vulnerable that system is. Many rural areas do not have access to the necessary tech infrastructure to enable bank payments. This is before we even get on to the question of freedoms and the state’s right to track absolutely everything you do. Honestly, there are so many reasons that cash is important and it’s crazy that some people would so willingly give it up.

None of the above ‘reasons’ are valid though. Those reasons are just a mixture of ludditism and conspiracy theory madness. Are you saying none of these can be overcome? My parents are in their 80s and both taught computing. They know most about computers than I do. It’s really patronising to say old people don’t understand tech or aren’t capable of learning something new if they have to.

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 13:55

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 13:48

Do you really want to live in a society without cash? What becomes of the millions of people who do not have (and cannot open) bank accounts? Or those who do, but are debanked (not as rare as you’d think). How would the homeless manage? What about those who cannot afford smart phones or internet access, or the elderly who cannot work the tech. Do you want a society where you are forced to entrust all of your money to third parties (are banks always safe? - imagine not having a bit of cash for emergencies). What if you were in a financially controlling relationship and cash was the only way to protect your money? What happens when the banking tech goes down - it happens and people don’t fully realise how vulnerable that system is. Many rural areas do not have access to the necessary tech infrastructure to enable bank payments. This is before we even get on to the question of freedoms and the state’s right to track absolutely everything you do. Honestly, there are so many reasons that cash is important and it’s crazy that some people would so willingly give it up.

I know. Hopefully we’ll keep some freedoms and cash.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 13:48

Bolon · 03/09/2026 13:39

Yes. That is my solution. For the extra £26bn it would raise would you not think it worth while?

Do you really want to live in a society without cash? What becomes of the millions of people who do not have (and cannot open) bank accounts? Or those who do, but are debanked (not as rare as you’d think). How would the homeless manage? What about those who cannot afford smart phones or internet access, or the elderly who cannot work the tech. Do you want a society where you are forced to entrust all of your money to third parties (are banks always safe? - imagine not having a bit of cash for emergencies). What if you were in a financially controlling relationship and cash was the only way to protect your money? What happens when the banking tech goes down - it happens and people don’t fully realise how vulnerable that system is. Many rural areas do not have access to the necessary tech infrastructure to enable bank payments. This is before we even get on to the question of freedoms and the state’s right to track absolutely everything you do. Honestly, there are so many reasons that cash is important and it’s crazy that some people would so willingly give it up.

Bolon · 03/09/2026 13:39

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 13:33

Is your solution to ban cash payments?

Yes. That is my solution. For the extra £26bn it would raise would you not think it worth while?

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 13:36

Loveofeclairs · 03/09/2026 13:33

But not to ask for cash exclusively, especially when no invoice or receipt is provided. And also not the situation described in the OP.

You’ll end up in a society with no cash.

Loveofeclairs · 03/09/2026 13:33

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 13:30

Yet again, just assuming that asking for cash is for a tax dodge. If you’d reviewed the thread you’d have seen lots of legitimate reasons why people do this.

But not to ask for cash exclusively, especially when no invoice or receipt is provided. And also not the situation described in the OP.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 13:33

Bolon · 03/09/2026 13:31

90% of the time it is a tax dodge. Small businesses are 62% of the tax evasion in the UK. It’s utterly vast.

Is your solution to ban cash payments?

TheTortiePuffinNeedsHerBreakfast · 03/09/2026 13:33

I barely use cash for anything and would definitely not agree to a weekly cash payment for anybody. What a hassle, especially as so many ATMs have disappeared recently.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 13:31

Whoops75 · 03/09/2026 13:30

My friends DH is a plumber and they are so cash rich. I do feel envy at times but it seems to be the norm, we recently paid a painter 6,000 in cash for doing our house.

Which is a completely lawful and legitimate way to pay for goods and services.