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AIBU to be so sick of tradespeople/ cleaners asking for cash in hand?

539 replies

Endlesspasswords · 03/09/2026 06:21

So my cleaner charges £21/hour cash, but just said she wants more if I pay by bank transfer, because bank transfer means she can’t dodge declaring it. As if paying by transfer (i.e. traceably) is some kind of favour/ privilege I should pay extra for.

Same with some work I got a quote for- it’s the attitude that if I don’t want to pay in cash, I’m the one ‘hurting’ their bank balance or being awkward.

I’m freelance B2B myself. No sick pay, no employer pension contributions, no paid holiday, I know exactly what it’s like to carry your own tax and NI. But I still pay tax on every invoice, because that’s the deal.

I’m so sick with the fact that self-employed people in one sector get to treat tax as optional while others pay for their healthcare, schools etc.

and yes, I’m getting a new cleaner.

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BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 15:40

FirmSnake · 03/09/2026 15:37

Because controlling partners are famously unable to find or demand cash...
What about all the women on PAYE who cant afford to leave their abusive partners because they have to pay tax? Screw them i guess.

I think that’s the best “what aboutery” I’ve seen in months 😆

FirmSnake · 03/09/2026 15:37

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 15:30

And those women who do it to protect their money from financially controlling partners. Screw them I guess.

Because controlling partners are famously unable to find or demand cash...
What about all the women on PAYE who cant afford to leave their abusive partners because they have to pay tax? Screw them i guess.

Flickitspinittwistitbopit · 03/09/2026 15:37

WalkingWavy · 03/09/2026 07:18

Yes, personal experience. I use Royal Bank of Scotland. The first 2 years of business bank were free but they charge after that. As a small business I also get charged for change from the bank (fair enough) which is why I prefer card payments.

This is awful - I have had a business account with monzo for 4 years and never been charged; do check them out!

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 15:35

Loveofeclairs · 03/09/2026 15:32

Even if they work 80% of the time, it’s still over £32k. So why shouldn’t they pay tax?

And how do you know they’re not paying tax? I can’t be bother to repeat all of the myriad reasons why some people prefer cash.

Loveofeclairs · 03/09/2026 15:32

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 15:18

How many domestic self-employed cleaners do you know who manage to work 37.5hrs? Come on, use some common sense.

Even if they work 80% of the time, it’s still over £32k. So why shouldn’t they pay tax?

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 15:30

Summerhillsquare · 03/09/2026 15:23

Shamefully, I had not thought of that. Will double down on my stance, thank you for stating it.

And those women who do it to protect their money from financially controlling partners. Screw them I guess.

Summerhillsquare · 03/09/2026 15:23

Sartre · 03/09/2026 06:49

Let’s not also forget the many men who do it to dodge child maintenance… It’s dodgy, you’re right.

Shamefully, I had not thought of that. Will double down on my stance, thank you for stating it.

dingodan · 03/09/2026 15:22

I know lots of people who are very comfortable paying cash in hand.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 15:18

dreamingofgoodhair · 03/09/2026 15:17

£21 an hour x 37.5 (full time) is £40,900 a year.

How many domestic self-employed cleaners do you know who manage to work 37.5hrs? Come on, use some common sense.

dreamingofgoodhair · 03/09/2026 15:17

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 13:22

I think it’s clear you have no idea what you’re talking about given you’re suggesting cleaners make over £40k a year. It’s embarrassing.

£21 an hour x 37.5 (full time) is £40,900 a year.

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 15:17

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 15:10

Basically anyone who is paid in cash is now a suspect and should be reported. What a society we’ve become.

Ik maybe it’s just this thread, but those posts are full on.

FirmSnake · 03/09/2026 15:16

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 15:08

Do you know anyone who cleans for a living?

What difference does that make?
As long as they're paying their taxes and keeping their books they'll be fine. If they're not, then no sympathy from me.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 15:15

dreamingofgoodhair · 03/09/2026 15:13

£21 an hour is not low paid. That’s over £40k gross a year full time. Why should she not pay tax ?

Yes, but the average self employed domestic cleaner is not working anything like full time. Why can’t they be paid cash? There are numerous legitimate reasons why people prefer cash - read the thread.

dreamingofgoodhair · 03/09/2026 15:13

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 15:06

Reporting a low paid cleaner is just going to wreck stuff for them and cause huge stress, not much else.

£21 an hour is not low paid. That’s over £40k gross a year full time. Why should she not pay tax ?

Bolon · 03/09/2026 15:12

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 15:06

Reporting a low paid cleaner is just going to wreck stuff for them and cause huge stress, not much else.

That would be excellent. Scummy little tax dodgers get what they deserve.

dreamingofgoodhair · 03/09/2026 15:11

rwalker · 03/09/2026 06:52

In the big scheme of things it makes no difference to him he gets £1800 cash or £2200 transfer after tax that’s more or less £1800

Not to what he will end up with but he’s dodging tax that we all have to contribute so society can function ?

KoiTetra · 03/09/2026 15:11

HenriettaHippopotamus · 03/09/2026 06:42

I agree and try to avoid it. My partner is even more so a believer than me and avoids take away that don’t accept cards which is annoying as there are some nice places we miss out on. He works for HMRC so I guess he’s in the right job.

To be fair, that doesn't always mean a tax dodge.

The card fees can be a killer. My hair dressers will take card but prefer bank transfer or cash. This is 100% to save the card fees.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 15:10

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 15:08

Do you know anyone who cleans for a living?

Basically anyone who is paid in cash is now a suspect and should be reported. What a society we’ve become.

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 15:08

FirmSnake · 03/09/2026 15:07

Entirely self inflicted...

Do you know anyone who cleans for a living?

FirmSnake · 03/09/2026 15:07

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 15:06

Reporting a low paid cleaner is just going to wreck stuff for them and cause huge stress, not much else.

Entirely self inflicted...

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 15:06

Loveofeclairs · 03/09/2026 15:03

Again, lots of people work and are struggling, yet still pay their tax. And perhaps those people’s tax burden would be less if everyone paid their fair share.

Reporting a low paid cleaner is just going to wreck stuff for them and cause huge stress, not much else.

Loveofeclairs · 03/09/2026 15:03

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 14:46

Who the ‘their’ in this post? People who think female cleaners aren’t raking it in and are probably struggling financially already.

Add vindictive reporting on top.

Again, lots of people work and are struggling, yet still pay their tax. And perhaps those people’s tax burden would be less if everyone paid their fair share.

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 14:46

Loveofeclairs · 03/09/2026 14:42

Agree, but was trying to preempt the ‘but she doesn’t get paid when travelling between jobs/holiday/sickness’ brigade. That always seems to be their main argument.

Who the ‘their’ in this post? People who think female cleaners aren’t raking it in and are probably struggling financially already.

Add vindictive reporting on top.

FirmSnake · 03/09/2026 14:44

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 14:42

You’re either very young or very naive if you think that more money to government equals better and more services. It’s just pissed away in the giant inefficient morass of bureaucracy. We’ve tried the “more funding” before and all that happens is that certain people get very rich.

So when was this utopia where cash was king and we had cancer treatments, long retirements on a state pension, social care etc? Please, do enlighten us.

Loveofeclairs · 03/09/2026 14:42

Palomiino · 03/09/2026 14:34

Travel time? Who else gets paid whilst they’re driving to work??

Agree, but was trying to preempt the ‘but she doesn’t get paid when travelling between jobs/holiday/sickness’ brigade. That always seems to be their main argument.