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AIBU to be so sick of tradespeople/ cleaners asking for cash in hand?

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Endlesspasswords · 03/09/2026 06:21

So my cleaner charges £21/hour cash, but just said she wants more if I pay by bank transfer, because bank transfer means she can’t dodge declaring it. As if paying by transfer (i.e. traceably) is some kind of favour/ privilege I should pay extra for.

Same with some work I got a quote for- it’s the attitude that if I don’t want to pay in cash, I’m the one ‘hurting’ their bank balance or being awkward.

I’m freelance B2B myself. No sick pay, no employer pension contributions, no paid holiday, I know exactly what it’s like to carry your own tax and NI. But I still pay tax on every invoice, because that’s the deal.

I’m so sick with the fact that self-employed people in one sector get to treat tax as optional while others pay for their healthcare, schools etc.

and yes, I’m getting a new cleaner.

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Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 09/09/2026 15:29

Badbadbunny · 09/09/2026 10:20

Maybe we need to impose limits on the value of cash transactions then. High enough to cover "small" purchases, but low enough to stop the tax evasion and benefit fraud. Maybe something like £100 per transaction.

Yes I'd agree with that.

TattyBluebell · 09/09/2026 14:00

Badbadbunny · 09/09/2026 10:20

Maybe we need to impose limits on the value of cash transactions then. High enough to cover "small" purchases, but low enough to stop the tax evasion and benefit fraud. Maybe something like £100 per transaction.

Totally agree with this!

Badbadbunny · 09/09/2026 10:20

TattyBluebell · 09/09/2026 10:16

Of course I do.
I'm talking about wanting to give my grandson some pocket money. He's five, he doesn't have a bank account yet!
I work in a toyshop shop. Watching kids count out their money to see if they have enough money to buy something rather than just a bleep from their parents phone. Kids need to learn the value of money and adding up different coins to make up a value of something. I'm sure all our grandparents gave us pocket money.
Also, if I just want to give someone a tip for a job well done. Just the little things that make things a little more human.

Maybe we need to impose limits on the value of cash transactions then. High enough to cover "small" purchases, but low enough to stop the tax evasion and benefit fraud. Maybe something like £100 per transaction.

TattyBluebell · 09/09/2026 10:16

Vulturesoverhead · 09/09/2026 06:41

Hope you don’t mind your pension not being paid if everyone stopped paying. Need a new hip? Tough shit the NHS can’t afford it. You get the idea?

Of course I do.
I'm talking about wanting to give my grandson some pocket money. He's five, he doesn't have a bank account yet!
I work in a toyshop shop. Watching kids count out their money to see if they have enough money to buy something rather than just a bleep from their parents phone. Kids need to learn the value of money and adding up different coins to make up a value of something. I'm sure all our grandparents gave us pocket money.
Also, if I just want to give someone a tip for a job well done. Just the little things that make things a little more human.

Badbadbunny · 09/09/2026 09:53

Noras · 09/09/2026 06:49

Yes you can.

I welcome the day when cash becomes obsolete but the gov needs to step up and demand that banks reduce charges.

For lots of businesses, banking cash is more expensive than dealing with BACS payments, etc. and even card processing fees can be very cheap if you go out and compare options.

TattyBluebell · 09/09/2026 09:49

Noras · 09/09/2026 06:49

Yes you can.

I welcome the day when cash becomes obsolete but the gov needs to step up and demand that banks reduce charges.

Yep...but do you think that will actually happen? Unlikely! Anything to squeeze some more money out of everyone.

Noras · 09/09/2026 06:50

Also we need accountability - so the end of cash would close down the doors of illegal activities eg prostitution, drugs and illicit other activities.

People will be less able to funnel cash illegally out of the UK. It would also stop so much illegals work / black economy etc.

Noras · 09/09/2026 06:49

TattyBluebell · 08/09/2026 18:39

Very sad that we are becoming a cashless society. If I want to give my grandson some cash pocket money then its getting harder to find a till that accepts cash for him to spend it.
Obviously I pay tax but I do begrudge the fact that we pay tax on our money four times..when we earn it, when we spend it, when we retire and then when we die.
Can't blame people for wanting to earn a bit of cash.

Yes you can.

I welcome the day when cash becomes obsolete but the gov needs to step up and demand that banks reduce charges.

Vulturesoverhead · 09/09/2026 06:41

TattyBluebell · 08/09/2026 18:39

Very sad that we are becoming a cashless society. If I want to give my grandson some cash pocket money then its getting harder to find a till that accepts cash for him to spend it.
Obviously I pay tax but I do begrudge the fact that we pay tax on our money four times..when we earn it, when we spend it, when we retire and then when we die.
Can't blame people for wanting to earn a bit of cash.

Hope you don’t mind your pension not being paid if everyone stopped paying. Need a new hip? Tough shit the NHS can’t afford it. You get the idea?

TattyBluebell · 08/09/2026 18:39

Very sad that we are becoming a cashless society. If I want to give my grandson some cash pocket money then its getting harder to find a till that accepts cash for him to spend it.
Obviously I pay tax but I do begrudge the fact that we pay tax on our money four times..when we earn it, when we spend it, when we retire and then when we die.
Can't blame people for wanting to earn a bit of cash.

Badbadbunny · 08/09/2026 16:02

Greenfingers37 · 08/09/2026 11:08

There are several of these nail bars where I live. I hate the fact that they insist on cash but they are quite a bit cheaper than other, more reputable salons who have card machines. And they are always so busy!

They're cheaper because they're not paying taxes and not properly accounting for PAYE, and employers on their staff wages either. Any business could be cheaper if they opted out of legal requirements!

ScotchBonnet74 · 08/09/2026 11:22

It all comes down to choice. If someone wants paying in cash only, and you want to pay in another way, and they won't accept that, you can either find someone else to do the job or pay them cash. Depends on how much you need / want them. My hairdresser prefers cash and I wouldn't want to lose her because I am slightly inconvenienced by having to go to a cashpoint. Whether or not she pays tax is not my job to police. It is not illegal (yet) to ask to be paid in cash. There are many countries in the world where everyday items and services are all paid for in cash.

Greenfingers37 · 08/09/2026 11:08

CarrieOakie · 03/09/2026 06:57

Try finding a nail bar that accepts anything but cash, there are thousands of them up and don’t the country. They avoid income tax and business rates

thousands of people getting their nails done & they must realise what’s happening?

There are several of these nail bars where I live. I hate the fact that they insist on cash but they are quite a bit cheaper than other, more reputable salons who have card machines. And they are always so busy!

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 08/09/2026 10:24

askmenow · 08/09/2026 09:24

But who checks? Not the Councils.
Every local Chinese takeaway I’ve ever visited takes only cash. It’s infuriating.

Who checks anybody that they're being honest at all times? Unless we want to live in a police state, we have to accept that some people will choose to be less than honourable.

Actually, I'd forgotten about our own local Chinese takeaway, but they went through a period where they would only accept payment by cash OR an online bank transfer - so they would obviously have been subject to bank fees for the latter method. Maybe for them it was an issue with the payment card provider/fees, rather than the actual bank itself?

They accept cards again now - I presume they've resolved whatever issues they had and/or they were losing a lot of trade from people who didn't have cash and couldn't be bothered (or were suspicious of) being asked to get their phone and go through the faff of setting up a payment, when they just wanted to flash their card at the reader and go home and eat!

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 08/09/2026 10:18

HollyhocksandPeons · 07/09/2026 20:40

Guys, on another thread the majority voted for 'not dobbing a person for a cash-in hand job'????? How come MN have such opposing views on the same subject, by a wide majority???? Please explain.

Different people engaging in different threads? If all of us on MN felt exactly the same about all manner of topics, we wouldn't have all of the, ahem, 'robust discussions' that we do!!

askmenow · 08/09/2026 09:24

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 03/09/2026 07:13

I don't think takeaways and other shops that say they prefer or only accept cash are necessarily seeking to cheat their taxes.

Often, they're just trying to avoid unnecessary bank fees - so they can pay themselves/wages direct from income rather than having to bank it first and lose a chunk before they access it again.

Of course, some of them may well be cheating on their tax as well; but it's far from a given. After all, whilst a tradie can claim that they've worked much less than they actually have, it would be much harder to hide and lie when everybody can clearly see your constant stream of customers in your high street premises.

But who checks? Not the Councils.
Every local Chinese takeaway I’ve ever visited takes only cash. It’s infuriating.

Bowies · 07/09/2026 23:12

Sartre · 03/09/2026 06:49

Let’s not also forget the many men who do it to dodge child maintenance… It’s dodgy, you’re right.

Exactly.
YANBU OP, it’s tax fraud by default IMO if you pay cash, knowing the reason is they don’t want to declare earnings.

HollyhocksandPeons · 07/09/2026 20:40

Guys, on another thread the majority voted for 'not dobbing a person for a cash-in hand job'????? How come MN have such opposing views on the same subject, by a wide majority???? Please explain.

Badbadbunny · 07/09/2026 19:07

Softcream · 07/09/2026 18:45

And what about the single mums trying to put food on the table whose exes are using cash in hand to avoid paying maintenance?

What about the single Mums working in proper jobs under PAYE who are having to suffer tax and NIC deductions???

Badbadbunny · 07/09/2026 19:07

Bolon · 07/09/2026 18:19

And income tax, and NICs and child maintenance…

And probably inflate his benefit claims too due to undeclared income!!

Softcream · 07/09/2026 18:45

Daisymay1000 · 07/09/2026 18:36

If someone prefers cash just let them take cash? What’s the issue. The multi million pound organisations tax dodging are the problem, not the tradesman just trying to put food on the table.

And what about the single mums trying to put food on the table whose exes are using cash in hand to avoid paying maintenance?

Daisymay1000 · 07/09/2026 18:36

Endlesspasswords · 03/09/2026 06:21

So my cleaner charges £21/hour cash, but just said she wants more if I pay by bank transfer, because bank transfer means she can’t dodge declaring it. As if paying by transfer (i.e. traceably) is some kind of favour/ privilege I should pay extra for.

Same with some work I got a quote for- it’s the attitude that if I don’t want to pay in cash, I’m the one ‘hurting’ their bank balance or being awkward.

I’m freelance B2B myself. No sick pay, no employer pension contributions, no paid holiday, I know exactly what it’s like to carry your own tax and NI. But I still pay tax on every invoice, because that’s the deal.

I’m so sick with the fact that self-employed people in one sector get to treat tax as optional while others pay for their healthcare, schools etc.

and yes, I’m getting a new cleaner.

If someone prefers cash just let them take cash? What’s the issue. The multi million pound organisations tax dodging are the problem, not the tradesman just trying to put food on the table.

Bolon · 07/09/2026 18:19

Steeleydan · 07/09/2026 18:06

The 2.2k would be with vat if it had to go through his books, the 1.8k cash would avoid vat

And income tax, and NICs and child maintenance…

GallowayESS · 07/09/2026 18:15

Sartre · 03/09/2026 06:49

Let’s not also forget the many men who do it to dodge child maintenance… It’s dodgy, you’re right.

Exactly THIS. Its rife! Extremely common behaviour, its purely 2 different economies running! How this can be left to fester is beyond me!

HMRC (we) loose millions/billions, we all pay for their welfare, whilst they declare no tax/NI, whilst its seemingly okay for them not to pay for their child/children! Hypocrites of the worse kind.

Unfortunately for them, they are not bright enough to declare top end earnings & then pay into any kind of pension, thus will be working until they are 95y/o & living on poverty pension (sob, sob).

Talk about chopping your nose off to spite your face!

Steeleydan · 07/09/2026 18:06

Plinketyplonks · 03/09/2026 06:31

Yes, we uncovered loads of problems with our walls (old house) during decoration and urgently needed a plasterer. Decorator recommended one who might squeeze us in. He came round to quote - £1800 if cash in hand, £2,200 if bank transfer. Why should he get away with not paying tax? 😡

Edited

The 2.2k would be with vat if it had to go through his books, the 1.8k cash would avoid vat