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AIBU to be so sick of tradespeople/ cleaners asking for cash in hand?

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Endlesspasswords · 03/09/2026 06:21

So my cleaner charges £21/hour cash, but just said she wants more if I pay by bank transfer, because bank transfer means she can’t dodge declaring it. As if paying by transfer (i.e. traceably) is some kind of favour/ privilege I should pay extra for.

Same with some work I got a quote for- it’s the attitude that if I don’t want to pay in cash, I’m the one ‘hurting’ their bank balance or being awkward.

I’m freelance B2B myself. No sick pay, no employer pension contributions, no paid holiday, I know exactly what it’s like to carry your own tax and NI. But I still pay tax on every invoice, because that’s the deal.

I’m so sick with the fact that self-employed people in one sector get to treat tax as optional while others pay for their healthcare, schools etc.

and yes, I’m getting a new cleaner.

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BelleEpoque27 · 03/09/2026 10:46

Sartre · 03/09/2026 06:49

Let’s not also forget the many men who do it to dodge child maintenance… It’s dodgy, you’re right.

I honestly think this is the main reason it's done - I know of two seemingly decent men who have done this since they got divorced. Both had fairly successful small businesses, now telling their exes they can't get work, no money coming in, bare mimimum child benefit... but have massive SUVs and nice holidays. It's a fucking scam.

WiseMoose · 03/09/2026 10:41

Yes, I am not complaining. The bank is a business.

We don't do a lot of small cost payments though - so I can see why some places, for example the local chippy will insist on a minimum spend on a card to make it worthwhile for them.

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2026 10:38

I've always considered anyone who does 'cash in hand' for any one beyond a friend/ relative is taking the piss.

My DP is a tradesmans and him and his mates do all sorts of cash in hand and benefits in kind for each other. One of his mates is coming over after work tomorrow to change the cam belt in my car using DP dads ramp, and parts I've purchased myself, and DP labouring for him - I will pay him cash in hand, but that's a favour for a mate.

But doing cash in hand for customers found via normal marketing is taking the piss, also it's surely risky as these customers owe them nothing and could easily stich them up to HMRC if they are unsatisfied in any way.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 03/09/2026 10:35

Vanillaicelatte · 03/09/2026 10:02

I pay cash wherever I can
I paid for my holiday in cash
any small work on my house I pay in cash
I prefer it
if a shop says no cash - that’s fine but I won’t shop or buy anything from them

I just had new carpets paid cash in the shop
paid the carpet fitter in cash on the day

none of them had a problem with it

But amongst these people - there will be a substantial group who are paying no tax....

So no contributions for schools/NHS....

bruffin · 03/09/2026 10:34

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 03/09/2026 09:57

But if you're a one-man/woman or little family business, cash doesn't have to be paid in to the bank at all.

It's perfectly possible to account for cash income legitimately for tax purposes, but then keep it as your wages. My parents ran their own business many years ago and they never actually banked the cash that our family needed for our own everyday personal expenses, only to needlessly pay bank charges for doing so - every penny went through the books for the accountant and taxman, though.

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But they sre jusy burden others with cash. They must have used a bank to pay utilities , rent etc

Palomiino · 03/09/2026 10:33

Cuki · 03/09/2026 10:22

Government is taking too much tax already, I think its fair that they want to be able to bring home some of the fruit of their own labour rather than just paying into this black hole. Why not? They are working bloody hard for it. If the work is not something that you need guarantee then why not

So you are saying that stealing from HMRC is ok as long as you’ve decided it’s fine because you work hard?

What about people on payrolls? They don’t get the choice to lie about what they earn.

Raspbellies · 03/09/2026 10:30

Women in crappy relationships may want cash to squirrel away to avoid it being spotted in a universal credit bank check.

This wasn't a thing with tax credits as it was only interest on savings that counted. They'd have needed a lot of savings for it to trigger that threshold.

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 10:29

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 10:10

Sadly I think it is. I’m astonished how many people here seem to automatically think that cash equals criminality. I’m wondering if it is a generational thing.

I wonder how many women they’ve met who do cleaning as a job. It seems at odds with the reality.

viques · 03/09/2026 10:28

WiseMoose · 03/09/2026 10:21

We have a limited company and our business bank (Nat West) charges us for each BACS direct debit, Automated payment and others are all at 35p each. So it can add up.

That seems fair to me. They are providing you with a secure service meaning your money is safe, not stuffed in Tesco carrier bags under your bed, you have accurate records, can move money safely between accounts, deal efficiently with other financial needs in your company like payroll , NI, pension payments. Sounds like a bargain. What else can you get for 35p?

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 10:24

WiseMoose · 03/09/2026 10:21

We have a limited company and our business bank (Nat West) charges us for each BACS direct debit, Automated payment and others are all at 35p each. So it can add up.

I had the same with NatWest. Really adds up if you are a small trader with many small transactions.

Cuki · 03/09/2026 10:22

Government is taking too much tax already, I think its fair that they want to be able to bring home some of the fruit of their own labour rather than just paying into this black hole. Why not? They are working bloody hard for it. If the work is not something that you need guarantee then why not

viques · 03/09/2026 10:22

Upyermonkey · 03/09/2026 07:10

How do they avoid business rates if they’re running a business in the high streets?
I think there are more to nail bars than meets the eye anyway.

I agree. They probably do declare transactions, but a lot of them, like barbers salons, are laundering dirty money by putting it through the business as cash transactions. Then again you also have the respectable high street businesses like Boots, who avoid tax by registering their business in an office block in Luxembourg. I refuse to use Boots since I found this out. They aren’t the only ones, but they are my personal fight back against corporate greed.

Daygloboo · 03/09/2026 10:22

Endlesspasswords · 03/09/2026 06:21

So my cleaner charges £21/hour cash, but just said she wants more if I pay by bank transfer, because bank transfer means she can’t dodge declaring it. As if paying by transfer (i.e. traceably) is some kind of favour/ privilege I should pay extra for.

Same with some work I got a quote for- it’s the attitude that if I don’t want to pay in cash, I’m the one ‘hurting’ their bank balance or being awkward.

I’m freelance B2B myself. No sick pay, no employer pension contributions, no paid holiday, I know exactly what it’s like to carry your own tax and NI. But I still pay tax on every invoice, because that’s the deal.

I’m so sick with the fact that self-employed people in one sector get to treat tax as optional while others pay for their healthcare, schools etc.

and yes, I’m getting a new cleaner.

I think ppl should start standing up to these people more. They are the whingeing Farage voters , who moan about benefit scroingers whilevfiddling the system massively themselves. What a huge hypocritical.joke these people are. They need taking down a peg or two.

WiseMoose · 03/09/2026 10:21

Flickitspinittwistitbopit · 03/09/2026 07:14

Is this based on experience and if so of which bank, as mine charged for neither on my business account?

We have a limited company and our business bank (Nat West) charges us for each BACS direct debit, Automated payment and others are all at 35p each. So it can add up.

LauraNorda · 03/09/2026 10:21

Look at all the self-righteous complaining about tradesmen when there is a tax dodger and convicted fraudster sat at the cabinet table.

nbvxsefc · 03/09/2026 10:19

I’m perfectly happy to pay my cleaner in cash. It’s legal tender, a perfectly legit way of paying and what she chooses to do in regards to her tax and record keeping is entirely up to her, not my business.

In reality she’s a SAHM with a few cleaning clients on the side so owes no tax anyway as she’s below the threshold so as far as I’m concerned it’s a moot point anyway. But even if she wasn’t it’s still none of my business.

Also pay the window cleaner in cash and the farrier. I would never risk upsetting our brilliant farrier who has done our horses feet for over 20 years and never had so much as pulled shoe! He is made of solid gold as far as I’m concerned. 20 years ago nobody would have ever dreamed of paying for these sort of services in anything other than cash and we have carried on the same as we always have.

People are struggling. Those of us under the yoke of PAYE (including me) have no choice.

Daygloboo · 03/09/2026 10:19

CrispySquid · 03/09/2026 07:51

Completely agree with you OP and its not just tax avoidance too - by asking for cash, it's a way for loads of people to avoid paying the correct child maintenance amounts too! I don't understand how people can defend this. In no other profession would the general public be ok if they undertook such fiddling.

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unfaithfulornot · 03/09/2026 10:18

I stopped going to a very skilled nail technician because of the cash only payment demands. She is very good at her job and recently put her fees up and now charges £52 for a set of nails but will post weekly on her instagram a rude comment reminding her clients she can’t and won’t accept anything but cash. I found another girl who uses the same nail prep technique, charges less and doesn’t dodge tax so she will be getting my money.

Daygloboo · 03/09/2026 10:17

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 03/09/2026 10:01

Just to be clear - he isn't asking for cash but has said a few things about me paying in amounts of under £2k and into his "other account" so it doesn't have to go through the main one. As far as the invoices go I am paying tax but I don't think he is...Plus he pays a wage to a family member, who I have never even seen but sends me invoices with all the same spelling mistakes as the builder.

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Daygloboo · 03/09/2026 10:14

Palomiino · 03/09/2026 09:54

No YANBU. Why is it that people constantly complain about ‘benefit scroungers’ but seem to think that stealing from the state is otherwise ok?

it’s such a double standard and really annoys me.

Totally agree.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 10:13

HollyhocksandPeons · 03/09/2026 10:11

I think it is great if you can choose - where I am currently, it is either cash or no plumber, and even our cobbler put out a sign 'cash only' for all to see. I see more and more people reverting to cash, strangely.

It’s not strange and this thread has set out so many legitimate reasons why some traders prefer cash.

Daygloboo · 03/09/2026 10:12

Endlesspasswords · 03/09/2026 06:21

So my cleaner charges £21/hour cash, but just said she wants more if I pay by bank transfer, because bank transfer means she can’t dodge declaring it. As if paying by transfer (i.e. traceably) is some kind of favour/ privilege I should pay extra for.

Same with some work I got a quote for- it’s the attitude that if I don’t want to pay in cash, I’m the one ‘hurting’ their bank balance or being awkward.

I’m freelance B2B myself. No sick pay, no employer pension contributions, no paid holiday, I know exactly what it’s like to carry your own tax and NI. But I still pay tax on every invoice, because that’s the deal.

I’m so sick with the fact that self-employed people in one sector get to treat tax as optional while others pay for their healthcare, schools etc.

and yes, I’m getting a new cleaner.

Couldnt agree more. It's a joke and people should start putting their foot down because tradespeople have got everyone by the short and curlies. I too am sick if people who think they have got everyine iver a barrel and that the rules dont apply to them. Vote with your feet people !!!!!

HollyhocksandPeons · 03/09/2026 10:12

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 10:08

This really doesn’t require another sodding app! It’s a staggering level of privilege when people just assume that everyone has access to smart phones, let alone bank accounts.

Well done - I see elderly people in bank queues harassed by bank employees to 'use the app'. Unconscionable. Ageist and ableist.

HollyhocksandPeons · 03/09/2026 10:11

I think it is great if you can choose - where I am currently, it is either cash or no plumber, and even our cobbler put out a sign 'cash only' for all to see. I see more and more people reverting to cash, strangely.

BermudaRhombus · 03/09/2026 10:10

EasternStandard · 03/09/2026 10:06

Is this how people see low income female cleaners?

Sadly I think it is. I’m astonished how many people here seem to automatically think that cash equals criminality. I’m wondering if it is a generational thing.

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