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To not refund this £2k

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RefundOrNot · 02/09/2026 10:32

NC for this as it’s identifying.

I organise women’s retreats. The next one is abroad at the end of September (Mediterranean).

The retreat sold out 6 months ago and I had a big waiting list with lots of women contacting me saying to get in touch if there is a cancellation.

One of the guests has cancelled - she had one of the biggest private en-suite rooms so her place was expensive (£2k). Her reason for cancelling isn’t an emergency and something she will have known about for a while.

I thought I’d be able to fill her place quite easily and have contacted everyone on the waiting list but nobody can make it now.

The cancellation policy is no refund within a month of the retreat. She cancelled 29 days before the retreat starts.

She wants a full refund but I am going to really struggle to fill her place at such short notice.

The retreat is organised by a not-for-profit women’s org. Everything is priced to break even so the org will have to make a £2k loss. It is a tiny org funded by donations and run by volunteers so this is a huge loss for the org.

On the other hand I feel dreadful not offering a refund.

AIBU not to refund it?

OP posts:
UnpopularOpinionsIWouldUsuallyKeepToMyself · 02/09/2026 13:57

Huckleberries · 02/09/2026 11:32

@RefundOrNot the key thing here is the number of days

The contract can’t just say “ a month” because what is a month?

It can because in UK contract law a ‘month’ is a calendar month. However, it would be best practice to state a clear specific number of days.

AgnesMcDoo · 02/09/2026 13:57

Aluna · 02/09/2026 13:11

No but 4 weeks is 28 days.

So OP really needs to tighten up this bit of the contract.

I use 30/60 days as it’s more specific.

But she hasn’t said any of those things.

she said a month.

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 02/09/2026 13:56

Thirteenblackcats · 02/09/2026 12:30

This is the grey area then. Could argue that a month is 28 days, if you haven’t specified a date then when was customer to know when was the last date to cancel with full refund

why did she cancel?

But how could you possibly argue that a month is 28 days, unless you're talking about 3 out of every 4 Februarys?

I would also like to know why she cancelled. OP says it wasn't an emergency or anything, so it's seriously cheeky of her to expect a NFP to bear a £2K loss on a ticket that she reserved and held on to for 9 months if she's just changed her mind.

LostFuse · 02/09/2026 13:55

chirrupybird · 02/09/2026 12:34

Someone must have at some time surely.

Who has a sofa in the kitchen?

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 02/09/2026 13:54

HollyhocksandPeons · 02/09/2026 13:04

Not-for-profit women’s org - how is this relevant?

Not-for-profit makes it clear that potentially losing the money is a much bigger deal and far less sustainable for them than it would if it were, say, Tesco or Amazon.

Also, I suppose by saying that it's a women's org, that shows that 49% of the population instantly wouldn't be eligible to buy the ticket on a resale basis, so that makes it twice as hard to find a new buyer as if it were available/suitable for everybody.

Franpie · 02/09/2026 13:44

Huckleberries · 02/09/2026 11:32

@RefundOrNot the key thing here is the number of days

The contract can’t just say “ a month” because what is a month?

Well unless the retreat is in February on a leap year it really doesn’t matter. All other times, 29 days is less than a month.

bananaobama · 02/09/2026 13:41

She can afford a £2k retreat so she can afford to lose her money

Perhaps you can re-sell the place at a discount or offer other people an upgrade for a price to recoup some of it?

purplecorkheart · 02/09/2026 13:40

I think you need to check the exact wording of the contract. The wording here is very important. Hopefully the contract is says the number of days/weeks rather than a month which can be unclear. For example in the pharmacy I attend give you a 28 day supply for a month.

Refuse the refund explaining why and ask her to claim off her travel insurance. However do not be surprised if she goes to the small claim court.

JHound · 02/09/2026 13:36

“The cancellation policy is no refund within a month of the retreat. She cancelled 29 days before the retreat starts.“

Seems fairly clear to me.

venus7 · 02/09/2026 13:36

SleeplessRoads · 02/09/2026 10:49

Well to be pedantic, every four years 29 days is exactly a month…

Not in September.

Wadsworthy · 02/09/2026 13:34

Your Ts and Cs were clear. You don’t have to refund the fee. You could authorise her to see if she can sell it on.

zingally · 02/09/2026 13:28

You are absolutely correct to not offer her a refund. The terms are crystal clear to anyone apart from the hard of thinking.

If this event is on the 25th September, she needed to be cancelling by the 24th August at the latest.

If she's got a genuinely earth shattering reason for not attending, that's what holiday insurance is for. If it was more a case of "just don't fancy it any more", then tough titties. You might even find that when you go back to her and say "no refund", that she's miraculously able to attend again...

I'm more interested in a charity organising a "retreat", going to a lot of time and effort, but seemingly making no profit... I get, "therapy and all that", but there's no need to go to the Med for it, when you can go to literally anywhere in the UK and do the therapy without the holiday... But I also do appreciate that perhaps I'm not the intended demographic for this.

KVH1991 · 02/09/2026 13:26

Added to wrong post

EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/09/2026 13:25

RefundOrNot · 02/09/2026 10:43

I asked her that but she isn’t on social media and said she will struggle.

There is so much that has already been paid on the assumption she is coming. The guests get 1:1 therapy with two separate therapists who still need paying. The venue has been paid for. Food is included but her share is less than £100

Try contacting the list again offering her place for 1000 or even 750. Charge her for the hours spent on administration and refund her with the amount that you sold her place for.

Laurmolonlabe · 02/09/2026 13:21

Most travel companies offer a sliding scale of refund- so close to the retreat she would only get about 25% back- this way you can offer the room at a more reasonable rate and not lose any money.

KnickerlessParsons · 02/09/2026 13:19

Have you explained that you’ve already incurred costs on the basis she’s coming and that the organisation will make a loss on the whole event if you refund her.
Could she pay for costs already incurred only so you don’t make a loss?

And if you’re running that lean (not a criticism), and incurring costs that far in advance, perhaps you need to rethink your refund policy.
Finally, do you have insurance to cover this kind of situation? Or does she?

Inattentivesorrywhat · 02/09/2026 13:15

I can absolutely see myself doing this and thinking I was within, just, 28 days so it would be okay. Incidentally, whenever I have done something similar, where I have asked for a refund after 29 days instead of 28 or some such, I've always been politely refused. That's what businesses tend to do.

FinallyHere · 02/09/2026 13:12

Rather than offer a free upgrade, and then sell a cheaper room, id offer the person who would have booked the en-suite room an upgrade if the difference is paid. Then offer anyone else the same followed by offering what’s left to the waiting list.

if noone takes the room, I’d be inclined to pay the upgrade fee into general funds. I’d also take a leaf out of the hotel or Airbnb bookings where they spell out the exact date/time for refunds to be available. And as PP suggested refund schedule tied to when you commit to costs.

Aluna · 02/09/2026 13:11

AgnesMcDoo · 02/09/2026 13:07

There’s only one month in the year that is 28 days and it’s not this one.

No but 4 weeks is 28 days.

So OP really needs to tighten up this bit of the contract.

I use 30/60 days as it’s more specific.

Mulledjuice · 02/09/2026 13:07

RefundOrNot · 02/09/2026 10:43

I asked her that but she isn’t on social media and said she will struggle.

There is so much that has already been paid on the assumption she is coming. The guests get 1:1 therapy with two separate therapists who still need paying. The venue has been paid for. Food is included but her share is less than £100

if that's the case - you've paid out for suppliers well before your free cancellation period ends, and you arent confident of reselling the room - then you probably need to look again at your supplier payment terms and your cancellation terms.

i would absolutely not refund her at this point. I would keep marketing the room - and consider at what point i would offer an existing guest (maybe a repeat booker?) a free or discounted upgrade especially if it is easier to resell one of the cheaper rooms.

tbh i would be optimistic that you could resell if you get it share widely - promote it to your existing booked guests and mailing list/socials and ask them to share.

in my experience there's always a woman who has decided to make a life change who's up for somethign like this at short notice.

i would consider refund in part after all my costs had been met including time and effort /admin to rebook.

AgnesMcDoo · 02/09/2026 13:07

Mumtotornadoes · 02/09/2026 10:38

Entirely depends on the contract. Does it say "a calender month" or "28 days"

She's obviously made the 28 day deadline. But if it's a calendar month has she made that?

Does the contract specify what reasons they can cancel for? If not, it doesn't matter why she's cancelling

There’s only one month in the year that is 28 days and it’s not this one.

HollyhocksandPeons · 02/09/2026 13:04

Not-for-profit women’s org - how is this relevant?

Retro12 · 02/09/2026 13:02

As she isn't within the cancellation period, I would offer her a partial refund of maybe £1k as a goodwill gesture. You will have more chance of selling the package at £1k and you wont be out of pocket. The new person will be super impressed with their great deal and hopefully the partial refund will keep the original customer happy!

SulkingInTheCatio · 02/09/2026 13:01

She’s messed her dates up I imagine and left it to the last point in her mind for a refund. Expensive lesson but I agree no refund if you can’t fill the place.

5gymbabe · 02/09/2026 13:00

RefundOrNot · 02/09/2026 10:32

NC for this as it’s identifying.

I organise women’s retreats. The next one is abroad at the end of September (Mediterranean).

The retreat sold out 6 months ago and I had a big waiting list with lots of women contacting me saying to get in touch if there is a cancellation.

One of the guests has cancelled - she had one of the biggest private en-suite rooms so her place was expensive (£2k). Her reason for cancelling isn’t an emergency and something she will have known about for a while.

I thought I’d be able to fill her place quite easily and have contacted everyone on the waiting list but nobody can make it now.

The cancellation policy is no refund within a month of the retreat. She cancelled 29 days before the retreat starts.

She wants a full refund but I am going to really struggle to fill her place at such short notice.

The retreat is organised by a not-for-profit women’s org. Everything is priced to break even so the org will have to make a £2k loss. It is a tiny org funded by donations and run by volunteers so this is a huge loss for the org.

On the other hand I feel dreadful not offering a refund.

AIBU not to refund it?

Given months have different lengths this is a tricky one or does it mean by same date in previous month prior to retreat starting ? ,

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